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#Giants RB Saquon Barkley suffered an ACL tear, based on the manual tests and initial diagnosis, source said. He’ll have an MRI to tell the full story, but the belief is the star is done for the season. Coach Joe Judge said they are holding out hope.
he's now had two major lower body injuries and will have missed as many games as he's played in his career.
Screw us as fans and the team too as this isn't really about how much we or the team is and will be hurting. This is SQ's journey, test, pain, and recovery, and here are my thoughts on how he's likely to handle it based on every impression I've had to date.
I'm upset for the man himself. I'm devastated here because I didn't even get to watch the game today and heard this only an hour ago.
This guy is the epitome of a quality athletic and intellectual person; at least from every word I've read and in every video I've watched.
First, I'm sure he is devastated by the events of today and the pressure now placed upon him, but, he is able to control those thoughts of devastation better than most due to the very qualities that make him both a special athlete, but also a special person. I've yet to hear anyone speak a single negative word concerning SB after an interview, random street encounters, teammates, opponents, coaches, or...anyone.
I have no trouble believing his level of depression and devastation resulting from his own injury just hours ago is actually at a lower level than a large number of the emotional NYG fan base are feeling at this exact point in time. He has a support system, the physical strength, and more importantly, the mental strength and resources to handle this injury better than 99% of us.
If I had to guess, based on everything I know about him (admittedly, not a lot at a personal level), but also other high quality ambitious hard working people like him that I've encountered before, he's already placed recovery as his #1 goal/challenge on his to-do list and it will remain in that #1 spot until he accomplishes that goal.
I bet you he will quickly consult with every specialist available. During recovery he will probably read at least two specific books: a textbook at the doctorate level on how the ACL ligament works, in conjunction with the entirety of both the knee itself and the forces throughout the body influencing the knee joint. The second book will be case studies on the most successful recovery methods to date.
If he's a fast reader, throw in another book by a respected running back who has lived through this. These books will all be read by the time Barkley is ready for real physical rehab on that knee to begin, and I bet you he hits the gym virtually every day of the week to keep the rest of his body ready, and dedicates even more time than ever before in learning the game of football and becoming more involved with offensive line coaching because that's the clear weakness on the team affecting his play.
Yes, this sucks. Yes, there's always the chance he may never be the same effective player again. However, ask yourself honestly, is there any single NFL player you believe would handle this as well as SB to recover fully from this injury barring things out of his control? I mean, there are quality people/players who will put in the same effort as SB, but put more into recovery than SB? No once comes to mind.
Finally, I mention books and experts, and of course that's just one side of things to put emphasis on the level of fight he will display. I have no doubt he will speak with hundreds of doctors, specialists, players, therapists, trainers, coaches, teammates, alumni from all sources, and the support system he has around him already.
On the bright side, it would be a mini-miracle for this team to go all the way in 2020, and yes this is a devastating injury and may not work well when it comes to contract stuff or long term ability for SB to player football.
But on the other end, pending a full recovery, we will have a stronger and more motivated RB in week one of the 2021 season, with only about 1.5 years (he was used considerably less in 19 compared to 18) of NFL wear and tear on him (again, pending full ACL recovery), going into his 4th year, still at the young age of 24. Add another off season to improve the roster, and now we can get some excitement going.
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Tucker never had a chance with his injury and where knee surgery was. SB has a chance to return almost as good as new. It’s the “almost” that needs to be determined on the field.
Blair Thomas - 1990 #2 Overall - Started slow, injuries piled up in year 3. Played in only 24 games in the next 4 years after that.
Ki-Jana Carter - 1995 #1 Overall - Tore his ACL in his first preseason game.
Curtis Enis - 1998 #5 Overall - Long contract holdout, showed up out of shape, tore an ACL later in his first year, out of football after 3 years.
Unfortunately, these kinds of injuries can be career altering. He may never be the same. The question will ultimately be whether he deserves to be paid like an All-World RB if he only comes back as merely "good."
It saves him a year of wear and tear? Wouldn't this be the definition of wear and tear?
he's now had two major lower body injuries and will have missed as many games as he's played in his career.
You absolutely cannot pay him. He has to prove he can return to what he showed in season one. He still dances to much in the backfield, doesn’t pick up blitzes well, and is showing to have injury issues. RB s are a dime a dozen, Barkley could be the best RB, but that window is closing.
This it the second time he has been incapacitated in play. Bottom line: another really bad draft pick who has not and will not ever work out for the Giants. His play has been, at best, indifferent. (OK with very bad O-lines -- but still.) Now it turns out he's a china doll.
Hope he recovers easily and soon. But he is not the answer to the Giants' offensive needs and woes. Bad pick with no line (which was known at the time) even if he turned out to be Superman. And Superman he is not. Not as a runner or receiver or blocker. Forget about it.
Is this really the way some people think? When a player is out for the year, we look at the severity of the hit he took? Hey, Einstein, how many season-ending injuries actually come from vicious hits? Blake Jarwin must be a pussy. Boas must be a frigging primadonna. Mostert must be fragile. Victor Cruz was a dancing pansy.
And I still really want to know how a guy who had 2,000 yards from scrimmage plays indifferent(at best).
This injury happened and immediately the response was to call him a failed draft pick - even a bust - and to have people go off on him being a "china doll" and the incompetence of the GM.
There really are a lot of imbeciles, doubling as colossal douchebags, here.
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No one should ever get such an injury. However, Barkley was not hit hard or anything else on the play in which he suffered his injury. No one twisted him strangely or hit his legs or anything else hard. He simply was thrown out of bounds at the end of an ordinary play.
This it the second time he has been incapacitated in play. Bottom line: another really bad draft pick who has not and will not ever work out for the Giants. His play has been, at best, indifferent. (OK with very bad O-lines -- but still.) Now it turns out he's a china doll.
Hope he recovers easily and soon. But he is not the answer to the Giants' offensive needs and woes. Bad pick with no line (which was known at the time) even if he turned out to be Superman. And Superman he is not. Not as a runner or receiver or blocker. Forget about it.
Is this really the way some people think? When a player is out for the year, we look at the severity of the hit he took? Hey, Einstein, how many season-ending injuries actually come from vicious hits? Blake Jarwin must be a pussy. Boas must be a frigging primadonna. Mostert must be fragile. Victor Cruz was a dancing pansy.
And I still really want to know how a guy who had 2,000 yards from scrimmage plays indifferent(at best).
This injury happened and immediately the response was to call him a failed draft pick - even a bust - and to have people go off on him being a "china doll" and the incompetence of the GM.
There really are a lot of imbeciles, doubling as colossal douchebags, here.
Agreed
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No one should ever get such an injury. However, Barkley was not hit hard or anything else on the play in which he suffered his injury. No one twisted him strangely or hit his legs or anything else hard. He simply was thrown out of bounds at the end of an ordinary play.
This it the second time he has been incapacitated in play. Bottom line: another really bad draft pick who has not and will not ever work out for the Giants. His play has been, at best, indifferent. (OK with very bad O-lines -- but still.) Now it turns out he's a china doll.
Hope he recovers easily and soon. But he is not the answer to the Giants' offensive needs and woes. Bad pick with no line (which was known at the time) even if he turned out to be Superman. And Superman he is not. Not as a runner or receiver or blocker. Forget about it.
Is this really the way some people think? When a player is out for the year, we look at the severity of the hit he took? Hey, Einstein, how many season-ending injuries actually come from vicious hits? Blake Jarwin must be a pussy. Boas must be a frigging primadonna. Mostert must be fragile. Victor Cruz was a dancing pansy.
And I still really want to know how a guy who had 2,000 yards from scrimmage plays indifferent(at best).
This injury happened and immediately the response was to call him a failed draft pick - even a bust - and to have people go off on him being a "china doll" and the incompetence of the GM.
There really are a lot of imbeciles, doubling as colossal douchebags, here.
I know a lot of people didn't want to draft a RB. But, this doesn't prove that point. And the reality that they are all forgetting is that if it wasn't Barkley it would have been Darnold. Is that who you want to be talking about in year 3? Really?
Josh Allen wasn't much better, if at all, than Jones last year. Allen didn't fumble as much, that's it.
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No one should ever get such an injury. However, Barkley was not hit hard or anything else on the play in which he suffered his injury. No one twisted him strangely or hit his legs or anything else hard. He simply was thrown out of bounds at the end of an ordinary play.
This it the second time he has been incapacitated in play. Bottom line: another really bad draft pick who has not and will not ever work out for the Giants. His play has been, at best, indifferent. (OK with very bad O-lines -- but still.) Now it turns out he's a china doll.
Hope he recovers easily and soon. But he is not the answer to the Giants' offensive needs and woes. Bad pick with no line (which was known at the time) even if he turned out to be Superman. And Superman he is not. Not as a runner or receiver or blocker. Forget about it.
Is this really the way some people think? When a player is out for the year, we look at the severity of the hit he took? Hey, Einstein, how many season-ending injuries actually come from vicious hits? Blake Jarwin must be a pussy. Boas must be a frigging primadonna. Mostert must be fragile. Victor Cruz was a dancing pansy.
And I still really want to know how a guy who had 2,000 yards from scrimmage plays indifferent(at best).
This injury happened and immediately the response was to call him a failed draft pick - even a bust - and to have people go off on him being a "china doll" and the incompetence of the GM.
There really are a lot of imbeciles, doubling as colossal douchebags, here.
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There really are a lot of imbeciles, doubling as colossal douchebags, here. [/quote]
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No one should ever get such an injury. However, Barkley was not hit hard or anything else on the play in which he suffered his injury. No one twisted him strangely or hit his legs or anything else hard. He simply was thrown out of bounds at the end of an ordinary play.
This it the second time he has been incapacitated in play. Bottom line: another really bad draft pick who has not and will not ever work out for the Giants. His play has been, at best, indifferent. (OK with very bad O-lines -- but still.) Now it turns out he's a china doll.
Hope he recovers easily and soon. But he is not the answer to the Giants' offensive needs and woes. Bad pick with no line (which was known at the time) even if he turned out to be Superman. And Superman he is not. Not as a runner or receiver or blocker. Forget about it.
Is this really the way some people think? When a player is out for the year, we look at the severity of the hit he took? Hey, Einstein, how many season-ending injuries actually come from vicious hits? Blake Jarwin must be a pussy. Boas must be a frigging primadonna. Mostert must be fragile. Victor Cruz was a dancing pansy.
And I still really want to know how a guy who had 2,000 yards from scrimmage plays indifferent(at best).
This injury happened and immediately the response was to call him a failed draft pick - even a bust - and to have people go off on him being a "china doll" and the incompetence of the GM.
There really are a lot of imbeciles, doubling as colossal douchebags, here.
Perfectly put Fats