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RB Freeman visiting NYG today

90.Cal : 9/21/2020 6:28 am
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With the likely season-ending injury to Saquon Barkley, the #Giants are bringing in reinforcements. Source says they plan to visit with and workout FA RB Devonta Freeman. The former #Falcons star spent the weekend with the #Eagles and should be with NYG today.
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Dont let him  
XBRONX : 9/21/2020 6:44 am : link
leave without a contract.Eagles have Miles Sanders
Question  
Dragon : 9/21/2020 6:51 am : link
Don’t we have the same type of back already on the roster Lewis?
Only 28,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/21/2020 6:56 am : link
but appears to have left his best days behind him. I’ll trust Judge and Garrett on this.
Are we really questioning this?  
robbieballs2003 : 9/21/2020 7:07 am : link
This is like trying to buy toilet paper in March, you get what you can get at that point.
Dion Lewis comparison?  
mittenedman : 9/21/2020 7:21 am : link
No. Freeman is more capable of playing in all situations.
I don’t get the gallman dog house  
Tuckrule : 9/21/2020 7:31 am : link
He’s a solid back is shifty enough and runs very hard. He’s a north south runner and I love his style. I was pissed when I saw he was inactive yesterday guess I was justified.
Gallman being inactive yesterday really surprised me  
cosmicj : 9/21/2020 8:01 am : link
Hope the coaches correct the mistake and dress three at all times in the future.
And I agree with Tuckrule  
cosmicj : 9/21/2020 8:02 am : link
I think Gallman is a perfectly fine back.
RE: And I agree with Tuckrule  
mfsd : 9/21/2020 8:05 am : link
In comment 14979743 cosmicj said:
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I think Gallman is a perfectly fine back.


The fact 2 straight coaching staffs seem to have soured on him is telling. He seems fine from our view, but there has to be more to the story. Maybe not knowing his assignments.

Either way, he'll get his shot again now I'm sure, but no doubt we will bring in reinforcements to compete too
RE: And I agree with Tuckrule  
90.Cal : 9/21/2020 8:10 am : link
In comment 14979743 cosmicj said:
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I think Gallman is a perfectly fine back.


Except when is inactive on GameDay when Saquon goes down early...
Gallman on his best day  
HomerJones45 : 9/21/2020 8:24 am : link
isn't Freeman. This is a monetary decision- is it worth the investment given the sad state of the rest of the team.
Just sign Freeman ASAP  
madeinstars : 9/21/2020 8:29 am : link
Before DG goes all Gettleman on us and trades a 3rd round pick for Kerryon Johnson or something.
Gallman  
lugnut : 9/21/2020 8:36 am : link
The big knock on him is that he's a fumble machine. Sy cited some stats on him a while ago and it was unreal. Makes DJ look like a piker.
Freeman deal  
NYG007 : 9/21/2020 8:37 am : link
If it happens, Money doesnt matter, its this years spend, who cares, he obviously won't get a 2 year deal
If Gallman  
Dnew15 : 9/21/2020 8:39 am : link
isn't the lead back at this point - what's the point in keeping him?
Guys  
Dragon : 9/21/2020 8:46 am : link
Maybe I should have asked this question SB could not run behind our line what makes you think Freeman can?
RE: Guys  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2020 9:00 am : link
In comment 14979792 Dragon said:
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Maybe I should have asked this question SB could not run behind our line what makes you think Freeman can?


What? So are you saying don't carry any running backs. What's your point?
Freeman is cooked  
Greg from LI : 9/21/2020 9:00 am : link
I get that they might not have any real alternatives but Freeman is just a name at this point.
As is Saquon Barkley  
NYRiese : 9/21/2020 9:06 am : link
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Backup RBs  
hopthered : 9/21/2020 9:08 am : link
What's the point in carrying a backup RB if you don't even use him when your starter goes down? Just play Gallman and Lewis.

RBs "should" be a dime a dozen. There are a few great ones, but outside of those guys they're all the same.

I wonder what Orleans Darkwa is up to. Give Gary Brown a call. Sean Bennet. Keith Elias?
RE: Freeman is cooked  
HomerJones45 : 9/21/2020 9:10 am : link
In comment 14979815 Greg from LI said:
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I get that they might not have any real alternatives but Freeman is just a name at this point.
Who cares? At this point, they need a body and he'd be the best able running back we have- by far. He'll probably want more than the vet minimum, and we'll sign someone off of another team's practice squad who we will laud here as a diamond in the rough because spending anything more than the vet minimum with this sad bunch is throwing the money away.
we need all the help we can get  
ryanmkeane : 9/21/2020 9:12 am : link
and he will come very cheap. Why not?
Is Freeman  
Jon in NYC : 9/21/2020 9:13 am : link
cooked or just coming off injury?

Maybe both, but one doesn't necessarily mean the other.
Has a somewhat odd injury history  
shyster : 9/21/2020 9:16 am : link
In 2018, coming out of Week 1, he was announced as having a knee contusion and missed the next three games.

Came back for Week 5 and was announced as having a foot contusion that ruled him out for the following week.

Then it was announced that, oh yeah, he's having surgery for a groin hernia and is done for 2018 season.

Comes back in 2019 and is significantly less effective as a rusher, average dropping to 3.6. But he does catch 59 balls.

Also missed two games in 2019 with another foot contusion.

DF - ( New Window )
There has to be  
Mark from Jersey : 9/21/2020 9:16 am : link
A better option on someone else’s practice squad. We already have two RB vets on the roster. Rather take a calculated risk on a younger back, particularly one at least decent in pass protection
RE: Is Freeman  
Jon in NYC : 9/21/2020 9:16 am : link
In comment 14979841 Jon in NYC said:
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cooked or just coming off injury?

Maybe both, but one doesn't necessarily mean the other.


Errr, I guess I got my years mixed up. I knew he missed a year but didn't realize it was two years ago.
I don't know what kind of shape he's in  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/21/2020 9:21 am : link
but his running style and physical makeup is completely different than Gallman's. Freemen is a power running back
RE: we need all the help we can get  
Dnew15 : 9/21/2020 9:21 am : link
In comment 14979837 ryanmkeane said:
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and he will come very cheap. Why not?


Because I think it's pretty clear that this team is not competing for a championship right now - they are re-building. Signing Freeman keeps a player that might be a part of the long term solution from proving they can play and be a piece of the puzzle moving forward.

I hate to say it bc I love the kid - but it's time to start considering the fact that SB will done the tag of "injury prone" and the Giants will have to plan moving ahead as if that is the case.

Bringing in Freeman as a one year (pricey at that) solution doesn't fix the problem moving forward.
RE: Gallman  
bigblue1124 : 9/21/2020 9:22 am : link
In comment 14979781 lugnut said:
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The big knock on him is that he's a fumble machine. Sy cited some stats on him a while ago and it was unreal. Makes DJ look like a piker.



Fumbling machine?

He has carried the ball 191 times and has 6 fumbles half of which his rookie year as a Giant so I would not put him in that category.

RE: Are we really questioning this?  
EricJ : 9/21/2020 9:24 am : link
In comment 14979711 robbieballs2003 said:
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This is like trying to buy toilet paper in March, you get what you can get at that point.


Right on Robbie.... then after we sign him and he does not look great... cue the DG sucks comments.

I would love for the armchair GMs to let us know who we can get up off of the couch to save our season.
RE: Dion Lewis comparison?  
Carson53 : 9/21/2020 9:29 am : link
In comment 14979717 mittenedman said:
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No. Freeman is more capable of playing in all situations.
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He's a tougher runner and bigger.
You can't use Lewis for 25 touches per game.
Maybe Gallman finally steps up? We can hope.
CJ Anderson just retired  
bigblue1124 : 9/21/2020 9:29 am : link
He did a nice job filling in for Gurley 2 seasons ago and did not play much last year but only 28 I believe. May be a options as a backup for Gallman?

I think they will bring Rod Smith from the PS though.

RE: Gallman being inactive yesterday really surprised me  
US1 Giants : 9/21/2020 9:31 am : link
In comment 14979742 cosmicj said:
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Hope the coaches correct the mistake and dress three at all times in the future.


I think Gallman does not play on special teams.
I think I would just run with Gallman at this point  
PatersonPlank : 9/21/2020 9:35 am : link
Lets give him a go and see what he can do
I'd  
AcidTest : 9/21/2020 9:42 am : link
go with Gallman as others have said, but we do need another RB. I'd just pass on Freeman because I think he's done, and he'll want to much money. But I'd be surprised if they don't sign him or some other veteran. I don't think it will be a rookie from a PS, but that's the direction I'd be inclined to go.
we don't know what his demands are  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2020 9:45 am : link
he may very well want a 1 year deal where he can be the focal RB to audition for another contract.

What we do know is he's still a FA and he likely won't get a better opportunity to showcase his skills than by getting starter carries, which he'd get here.
RE: RE: Gallman being inactive yesterday really surprised me  
Carson53 : 9/21/2020 9:46 am : link
In comment 14979899 US1 Giants said:
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In comment 14979742 cosmicj said:


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Hope the coaches correct the mistake and dress three at all times in the future.



I think Gallman does not play on special teams.


It surprised me as well, to only have two back there
in uniform. Penny plays about two plays a game too.
RE: RE: Gallman being inactive yesterday really surprised me  
KeoweeFan : 9/21/2020 9:51 am : link
In comment 14979899 US1 Giants said:
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In comment 14979742 cosmicj said:


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Hope the coaches correct the mistake and dress three at all times in the future.



I think Gallman does not play on special teams.

I saw #22 on STs week 1. Maybe THAT is the answer to the puzzle; he got his chance on ST and didn't do well - not a good thing if JJ is your coach.

Wayne is not a fumble machine. He was an important part of Clemson's championship teams, an all around back who set rushing records for the school and led ALL COLLEGE BACKS (including Saquon) in yards after contact.

Would love to see him get one more chance.
...  
christian : 9/21/2020 9:52 am : link
At some point you have to start being mindful of what you can rollover into an uncertain 2021 cap year. If the money is meaningful, would you rather add a meaningful player this year or next? You take a guy like Ryan on 1/6.5M for example — maybe it would have been wiser to add a guy like that next year.
RE: I don't know what kind of shape he's in  
Capt. Don : 9/21/2020 10:03 am : link
In comment 14979864 gidiefor said:
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but his running style and physical makeup is completely different than Gallman's. Freemen is a power running back


That is news to me. I dont know what he is now, but before the injury he was extremely elusive with that Maurice Jones Drew type of power. Not a power back.
this is a "why not" move  
Eric on Li : 9/21/2020 10:11 am : link
if he is unsigned at this point in the season the $ won't be a big deal. Maybe a little bit over the vets minimum. Last year his YPC sucked but he did have 59 receptions on an impressive 84% catch rate. He is likely better than Gallman but at minimum probably a serviceable 3rd down back who can block and catch and not wear out Lewis. No issues with bringing him in if they like what they see.
I see Gallman as more of a power back than Freeman  
PatersonPlank : 9/21/2020 10:21 am : link
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RE: Are we really questioning this?  
djm : 9/21/2020 10:26 am : link
In comment 14979711 robbieballs2003 said:
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This is like trying to buy toilet paper in March, you get what you can get at that point.


Lol no more Scott’s! Anarchy.
Gallman  
ghost718 : 9/21/2020 10:30 am : link
I think they just gave his doghouse a paint job,and that was it.
Freeman is not "cooked"  
Sy'56 : 9/21/2020 10:33 am : link
This is a must-sign
Was hoping this would happen.  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/21/2020 10:37 am : link
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Don't  
Steve in Greenwich : 9/21/2020 10:37 am : link
see how this could hurt.

Don't know how to phrase this, but for those saying lets just see what Gallman has, Freeman doesn't help long term, I couldn't disagree with you more.

The importance in this season is growing chemistry in the offense and the offensive line. Even if Freeman is not part of the answer moving forward, if he extends drives with 1 or two more first downs a game than Gallman then that's worth exponentially more to the teams future than the emergence of Gallman as an acceptable backup. Backup running backs are a dime a dozen. I'm not saying to sign him just for the sake of signing him, but if he shows in a tryout that he provides something more than Gallman does, then by all means bring him in. A certain level of competency is needed in the running game in order for the team to grow as a whole, and I don't know if Freeman still has anything left in the tank, but if he does I wouldn't ignore him just to "see" what Gallman can do. He's just not that valuable in the long run.
RE: Freeman is not  
christian : 9/21/2020 10:43 am : link
In comment 14980063 Sy'56 said:
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This is a must-sign


That’s a surprising take. He averaged 3.6 YPC, 6.9 YPR, and 4.4 YPT last year. All signs of a deteriorating player nearing the end of his career. What did you see last year that popped out to you?
RE: RE: Freeman is not  
PatersonPlank : 9/21/2020 10:49 am : link
In comment 14980082 christian said:
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In comment 14980063 Sy'56 said:


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This is a must-sign



That’s a surprising take. He averaged 3.6 YPC, 6.9 YPR, and 4.4 YPT last year. All signs of a deteriorating player nearing the end of his career. What did you see last year that popped out to you?


I'm not Sy, but I do think stats need to be taken in context. Atl was pretty bad last year, this contributed to his stats. As we have seen if the OL is not blocking RB's can't run. He still did get over 1k in yards from scrimmage.
RE: I'd  
BleedBlue : 9/21/2020 10:49 am : link
In comment 14979926 AcidTest said:
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go with Gallman as others have said, but we do need another RB. I'd just pass on Freeman because I think he's done, and he'll want to much money. But I'd be surprised if they don't sign him or some other veteran. I don't think it will be a rookie from a PS, but that's the direction I'd be inclined to go.


too much money? he is home sitting on his couch lol.. he doesnt really have any leverage to get a ton of moneey...
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