There were two occasions yesterday(I saw) where players voluntarily removed their helmet without getting a flag. Did the NFL take that rule off the books?
On a 3rd down sack of Jones, Hicks not only took his helmet off, but then saluted the defensive backs. Not only was there no flag, but the announcers seemed to approve of his move.
In the MNF game, one of the Seahawks removed his helmet after scoring a TD and Collinsworth asked why there wasn't a penalty for doing so, which indicates to me that the rule is still on the books.
If it is - how do you miss those calls?
So his helmet just came off his head somehow?
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The penalty would be assessed on the kickoff.
I remember because OBJ got flagged for it after his long fourth down TD reception vs the Ravens in 2016, and Harbaugh ran down the sidelines to argue that the penalty should be assessed on the extra point.
OBJ was out of the back of the end zone when he took his helmet off and was still called for it.
For those saying the penalty "shouldn't" be called in those situations, sure, you can argue that, but the point is the lack of consistency when there has been no rule change.
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and this was big b/c it would have pushed KC back and impacted their 2 point try and maybe forced them to go for 1.
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The penalty would be assessed on the kickoff.
I remember because OBJ got flagged for it after his long fourth down TD reception vs the Ravens in 2016, and Harbaugh ran down the sidelines to argue that the penalty should be assessed on the extra point.
OBJ was out of the back of the end zone when he took his helmet off and was still called for it.
For those saying the penalty "shouldn't" be called in those situations, sure, you can argue that, but the point is the lack of consistency when there has been no rule change.
It's up to the Chargers if it's assessed on the kick-off or the point after attempt.
Why would they opt to have it on the KO when they were up 2? Why wouldn't they move the Chiefs back 15 yards?
It's up to the Chargers if it's assessed on the kick-off or the point after attempt.
Why would they opt to have it on the KO when they were up 2? Why wouldn't they move the Chiefs back 15 yards?
Do you have a rule cite for that?
Just asking before I go check it myself.
Harbaugh certainly made clear what his choice would be if he had one before the Giants kicked the XP. It was the difference between the Ravens being 3 or 4 points behind with a minute left.
And penalty was assessed on the kickoff.
This.
What?? The rule was instituted so players wouldn't showboat.
It has been referred to as the Emmitt Smith rule for years.
A lot happened in this boring game.
Also known as the Gus Frerrotte game where he broke his neck headbutting the end zone padding and Jeff Hostetler had to come in to relieve Frerrotte.
Also known as the first and only NFL game my wife (then girlfriend) will ever attend in person.
In OT with time winding down the Skins were at the edge of FG range and a ref called no catch on a diving attempt by Westbrook and he took off his helmet to yell at the ref and drew the 15 yard flag and moved the skins well out of FG range.
it's not just called for fights, etc.
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It's up to the Chargers if it's assessed on the kick-off or the point after attempt.
Why would they opt to have it on the KO when they were up 2? Why wouldn't they move the Chiefs back 15 yards?
Do you have a rule cite for that?
Just asking before I go check it myself.
Harbaugh certainly made clear what his choice would be if he had one before the Giants kicked the XP. It was the difference between the Ravens being 3 or 4 points behind with a minute left.
And penalty was assessed on the kickoff.
You are correct. Rule was changed before the 2019 season to allow the choice.
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Not sure where the confusion over just using it as a weapon is from. I think we've seen that happen once in the past several years.
I thought that was over the top, but it's never been what some people on here think.
Maybe you think the rule is dumb or should be changed, but it is a rule on the books that is enforced inconsistently - and that creates problems when you enforce rules inconsistently.