Justin Herbert

Although let's see what happens when teams know he is playing and design a D for him. I suspect he will have growing pains/turnovers like all others.

a couple massive shots and bounced right back up.

He's going to have to learn not to expose himself like that.

very impressive. Given how desperate the teams at 2 and 3 were to trade back, some teams may look really bad in a few years having passed on him and Tua given where they ultimately went.

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hadn't thrown that INT deep when he was scrambling in the second half. He had the first down easily if he ran but he tried to go back across his body deep down the field to Allen.

He played pretty well and the Charges have to be excited about his future. Quietly they have some nice young talent- Reed at WR, Kelley at RB and Herbert at QB.

for that matter... :)

Going to be interesting to watch him and Jones in parallel. I preferred the Edge rusher over Jones last year.

In comment 14980137 JonC said:

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Going to be interesting to watch him and Jones in parallel. I preferred the Edge rusher over Jones last year.

As did I. But since he was picked, I'm all in on DJ

In comment 14980137 JonC said:

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Going to be interesting to watch him and Jones in parallel. I preferred the Edge rusher over Jones last year.

I think there was a rumor that the Giants liked him more than Jones. DG went to see him IIRC. But he didn't come out last year because he wanted to play with his brother.

Kid's good as you will see.

In comment 14980247 Stan in LA said:

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Kid's good as you will see.

Thanks for chiming in, loser.

he was a surprise starter. You can get away with anything for a few weeks until the DC's get some film and can break down habits, tendencies and weak spots.

In comment 14980096 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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a couple massive shots and bounced right back up. He's going to have to learn not to expose himself like that.

Yeah he's not going to last long in the league if he plays like he did yesterday. I think he's getting adjusted to NFL speed, wouldn't worry about it if I was a Chargers fan

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Going to be interesting to watch him and Jones in parallel. I preferred the Edge rusher over Jones last year.

Like you, I wanted him as the Giants QB in the '19 draft. Fell in love with his arm and athleticism. He decided not to come out, and the Giants went ahead with Jones.

I'm good with the decision, if for no other reason than there are some personalities that fit and work in NY (Eli, Simms...and I believe Jones), and from what I've read, Herbert is an incredibly good guy, bright, and well rounded, but is an introvert by nature. I don't know how that would work around New York.

But happy for the kid. Seems like a good guy

Starting to think that DG may have royally fucked us in the 1st rounds, 3 years in a row. Not that I don't like Thomas, but had we gone Nelson or Chubb, then Josh Allen, then Herbert this year are we better off?

pretty sure if we chose Chubb, we'd be seeing posts saying he's a china doll and injury prone because of missing the season.

Same here, alluded to it last night on another thread. I'm fine with the Barkley pick. While I like the Jones and Thomas picks, I feel like they were heavily need based and need picking sucks.

Should be a good player, but let's wait and see what happens when teams get some film on him.

W/O better O-Line - Giants weren't going anywhere. We finally appear to have gotten 1st round value with our pick.

Jones will be fine - Shrumur and Garrett both build off the run. Won't know how good Jones can be until Giants have a respectable run game. Not great - just competent NFL quality.

On a side note, Shurmur seems to be doing pretty well as an OC with Denver. Up ain't always better.

In comment 14980247 Stan in LA said:

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Kid's good as you will see.

Damn it! He does seem like a good kid, but now that you've backed him he most certainly will turn to shit...

that the other argument is not compelling. Just not sure whether Jones or Herbert will be the better QB.

Nelson is great in hindsight but only in trade down. Really felt like none of those were good enough. Josh Allen the QB would have been called a big reach even though I liked his game a lot. Josh Rosen was the ready to go name and look how that turned out.

You can never truly predict these things.

35-49, 330 yards and a dropped lateral away from leading a 99 yard drive with a minute and a half left with no timeouts to win the game.

All that with no running game(sound familiar?) and constantly under pressure (sound familiar?).

Here's a guy you can build a team around.

In comment 14987313 Stan in LA said:

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35-49, 330 yards and a dropped lateral away from leading a 99 yard drive with a minute and a half left with no timeouts to win the game. All that with no running game(sound familiar?) and constantly under pressure (sound familiar?). Here's a guy you can build a team around.

That hook and ladder was there for the TD. And would have been the play of the year to date.

Herbert is a big strong athlete still learning to play QB. I could see him advancing in a similar fashion to Josh Allen.

In comment 14987313 Stan in LA said:

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35-49, 330 yards and a dropped lateral away from leading a 99 yard drive with a minute and a half left with no timeouts to win the game. All that with no running game(sound familiar?) and constantly under pressure (sound familiar?). Here's a guy you can build a team around.

I like Herbert, but to say he had an amazing game today was asinine. I caught bits and pieces of it, but a stat line you just named with 1 td to 1 pick is about as mediocre as it gets. Less than 7 yards an attempt? I saw the pick he threw and it was bad.

In comment 14987317 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 14987313 Stan in LA said: Quote: 35-49, 330 yards and a dropped lateral away from leading a 99 yard drive with a minute and a half left with no timeouts to win the game. All that with no running game(sound familiar?) and constantly under pressure (sound familiar?). Here's a guy you can build a team around. I like Herbert, but to say he had an amazing game today was asinine. I caught bits and pieces of it, but a stat line you just named with 1 td to 1 pick is about as mediocre as it gets. Less than 7 yards an attempt? I saw the pick he threw and it was bad.

Threw 1 pick, BFD. You need to watch the WHOLE GAME. Then get back to me.

In comment 14987313 Stan in LA said:

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35-49, 330 yards and a dropped lateral away from leading a 99 yard drive with a minute and a half left with no timeouts to win the game. All that with no running game(sound familiar?) and constantly under pressure (sound familiar?). Here's a guy you can build a team around.

Their 2 running backs ran 20 times for 102 yards and a TD. The Chargers scored 7 more points than the Giants today. Calm down.

But I’m still surprised how well he’s done so early.

But I’m still surprised how well he’s done so early.

In comment 14987419 jeff57 said:

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But I’m still surprised how well he’s done so early.

The best thing for Herbert may have been getting out of Eugene and away from Mario Cristobal.

per attempt didn't have an amazing game regardless of the shit situation. And by all accounts the running game was pretty good.

In comment 14987436 Zeke's Alibi said:

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per attempt didn't have an amazing game regardless of the shit situation. And by all accounts the running game was pretty good.

Ekelar's out today and Herbert is 11-14, 148 yards and 2 TD's at the HALF. Amazing so far.

Had Giants been patient, he could be starting for them now.

In comment 14994477 jeff57 said:

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Had Giants been patient, he could be starting for them now.

Yup...agree 100%. Why my answer to the "which QB should the Giants select" question in 2019 was "none of the above, get another year out of Eli and wait for the 2020 class". This is not to say that ive given up on Jones, but really liked the qb prospects from the most recent class (which at the time didnt include Burrow) more than the Jones/Haskins group.

In comment 14994465 Stan in LA said:

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In comment 14987436 Zeke's Alibi said: Quote: per attempt didn't have an amazing game regardless of the shit situation. And by all accounts the running game was pretty good. Ekelar's out today and Herbert is 11-14, 148 yards and 2 TD's at the HALF. Amazing so far.

Yeh he’s playing well today. I’m actually local watching this game. Not sure what that has to do with last week?

Machine on defense today. He looks the best I’ve seen him so far this year.

In comment 14994505 John In CO said:

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In comment 14994477 jeff57 said: Quote: Had Giants been patient, he could be starting for them now. Yup...agree 100%. Why my answer to the "which QB should the Giants select" question in 2019 was "none of the above, get another year out of Eli and wait for the 2020 class". This is not to say that ive given up on Jones, but really liked the qb prospects from the most recent class (which at the time didnt include Burrow) more than the Jones/Haskins group.

Josh Allen rushing the passer and Herbert at QB

If he came out in 2018, I think he'd undoubtedly have been the NYG pick being that the Cards were so set on Murray.

Man so many of these young QBs are making the Jones pick look even worse.

about Herbert is that the knock on him was that he wasn't learning the system and playbook so quickly.

You would figure a QB with a deficit in the intellectual part of the game would take more time to develop.

is bad

One of the biggest riddles in NFL - which college QBs will make it at the next level.

from a system and staff that's been in place for several years

Really bad