for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

Arthritis post-ACL tear and the Giants' future with Saquon

Mr. Nickels : 9/21/2020 6:12 pm
One aspect not discussed (or maybe it has been I am not sure) is the arthritis that may develop in Barkley's knee post surgery. Could he come back like Adrian Peterson in 2012? Sure it's possible. Barkley is a freak athlete. But the real concern is what if Barkley begins to suffer some arthritis condition. Look at Todd Gurley and his surgery was from college..

We may not be offering that second contract at this point due to this injury..

Additionally, what does this mean for Gettleman if we bottom out once again? Do we draft Trevor Lawrence? I was hoping we would draft Chase pre-injury but now we have a real shot at pick 1.. We could also get the most lucrative haul of draft picks/players in possible history if we are confident in Daniel Jones. Do we trust Gettleman to be the GM to make this deal?
I've had two knee surgeries and asked a lot of questions.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/21/2020 6:27 pm : link
One torn meniscus and one ACL reconstruction. Two different doctors in NYC.

I asked the first doctor about whether I should have the meniscus tear debrided. He said I'd get less arthritis in the joint than if I left it alone. I think once you go down this road, arthritis is inevitable — eventually.

I have had bad arthritis in that knee since my late 30s. I had X-rays at UCLA when I moved to LA in and the doctors said "Your knees should look like this at your age." They thought I would need knee replacement in my 50s, but didn't. I'm 61 and it's getting to that point, though.

One of the things that my doctors told me is that simply having an arthroscopic procedure damages the joint, separately from the nature of the repair. Flushing the joint with saline "drowns" the cells, they said, and the living cells in the joint can only bounce back from that so many times. So they discourage having a lot of arthroscopies. I know there are linemen who have many arthroscopies; maybe the doctors were wrong, I dunno.
If the Giants are picking first, they draft Trevor  
jc in c-ville : 9/21/2020 6:35 pm : link
When a team such as the Giants are able the land the best QB prospect in 25 years ( Peyton/ Luck) without trading up and giving up resources, you don’t think twice. If Daniel Jones performs this year, you trade him for a late 1 or early 2. Heck, if NE is picking early to mid 20’s- they would happily give up that for Jones. That would give us a generational QB, an extra 1st and the first pick in the second round. Who wouldn’t sign up for that?
RE: If the Giants are picking first, they draft Trevor  
Mr. Nickels : 9/21/2020 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14980803 jc in c-ville said:
Quote:
When a team such as the Giants are able the land the best QB prospect in 25 years ( Peyton/ Luck) without trading up and giving up resources, you don’t think twice. If Daniel Jones performs this year, you trade him for a late 1 or early 2. Heck, if NE is picking early to mid 20’s- they would happily give up that for Jones. That would give us a generational QB, an extra 1st and the first pick in the second round. Who wouldn’t sign up for that?


Even with Cam?
He’s going to be around the one millionth  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2020 6:44 pm : link
athlete undergoing surgery for a torn ACL. He’s got a very strong chance to come back at 100%. I’ll worry about his contract when it comes to it, everything is unknown right now.
RE: If the Giants are picking first, they draft Trevor  
nygiants16 : 9/21/2020 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14980803 jc in c-ville said:
Quote:
When a team such as the Giants are able the land the best QB prospect in 25 years ( Peyton/ Luck) without trading up and giving up resources, you don’t think twice. If Daniel Jones performs this year, you trade him for a late 1 or early 2. Heck, if NE is picking early to mid 20’s- they would happily give up that for Jones. That would give us a generational QB, an extra 1st and the first pick in the second round. Who wouldn’t sign up for that?


and then what if Lawrence busts?

Id rather trade the 1st pick for crazy package..
RE: RE: If the Giants are picking first, they draft Trevor  
lax counsel : 9/21/2020 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14980812 Mr. Nickels said:
Quote:
In comment 14980803 jc in c-ville said:


Quote:


When a team such as the Giants are able the land the best QB prospect in 25 years ( Peyton/ Luck) without trading up and giving up resources, you don’t think twice. If Daniel Jones performs this year, you trade him for a late 1 or early 2. Heck, if NE is picking early to mid 20’s- they would happily give up that for Jones. That would give us a generational QB, an extra 1st and the first pick in the second round. Who wouldn’t sign up for that?



Even with Cam?


Doubt BB views Cam as the future, but the original quoted post is spot on. However, I doubt they end up with first pick.
This isn’t the time to worry about his contract.  
Giant John : 9/21/2020 7:14 pm : link
Let’s focus on getting him well. Then the Giants will see to his contract.
much talk since yesterday about getting 1st pick  
mpinmaine : 9/21/2020 7:17 pm : link
we may pick tenth or lower...there's 14 games left for crying out loud.

As for SB, hard worker, good guy, not a diva, hope he comes back hard
RE: RE: If the Giants are picking first, they draft Trevor  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/21/2020 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14980812 Mr. Nickels said:
Quote:
In comment 14980803 jc in c-ville said:


Quote:


When a team such as the Giants are able the land the best QB prospect in 25 years ( Peyton/ Luck) without trading up and giving up resources, you don’t think twice. If Daniel Jones performs this year, you trade him for a late 1 or early 2. Heck, if NE is picking early to mid 20’s- they would happily give up that for Jones. That would give us a generational QB, an extra 1st and the first pick in the second round. Who wouldn’t sign up for that?



Even with Cam?


What about Cam's usage suggest that Bill is thinking of him as a long term option?
2-4 weeks until he has  
Dave on the UWS : 9/22/2020 7:12 am : link
the surgery. Leads me to believe there is more to this injury then a torn ACL. In any case, he will miss most of if not all of next year to. If they don’t pick up his fifth year option, he would be done as a Giant. Someone is going to give him a 5 yr 90 million contract. It shouldn’t be us though. Unfortunately Mr. “touched by the hand of God” will be making that decision so of course he will.
RE: 2-4 weeks until he has  
csb : 9/22/2020 9:16 am : link
In comment 14981186 Dave on the UWS said:
Quote:
the surgery. Leads me to believe there is more to this injury then a torn ACL. In any case, he will miss most of if not all of next year to. If they don’t pick up his fifth year option, he would be done as a Giant. Someone is going to give him a 5 yr 90 million contract. It shouldn’t be us though. Unfortunately Mr. “touched by the hand of God” will be making that decision so of course he will.


2-4 weeks is a typical time to let the swelling go down before surgery. Nobody knows how Saquon's body will respond nor do we know the details around the meniscus damage which is the biggest wildcard. Partial or full ACL tear they are still going to replace with either a cadaver ACL, a patella tendon or a hamstring graft; the hamstring graft is more likely I'd assume because it is typically stronger and less risk associated with his body rejecting.

My bet is that his biggest risk is the meniscus tear, second is the infection post surgery. If all goes well and the meniscus is only a bucket handle tear my bet is that he's back for week 1.
Back to the Corner