are why I think people are premature in labelling him a number one WR. Teams have tape on him and it's going to be a lot tougher this year. Not sure he has that swagger that you usually see from the true number ones.
The defensive front 3 really is the most encouraging thing about this team right now except maybe for Jones. Unfortunately they need help from the Edge and aren't getting a lot of it.
He has to have his "come to jesus" moment. He isn't going to fix this right away, but if he exits the season like this and Giants pick #1 it's Lawrence.
I don't think it will come to that, but there's a chance it will.
That said, if we have the number 1 pick-which I doubt, hello Jets, Panthers-you gotta take the sexy blonde from Clemson. He's the best QB prospect since Luck, maybe even Peyton.
RE: I like DJ, but he's really gotta clean up the TOs.
That said, if we have the number 1 pick-which I doubt, hello Jets, Panthers-you gotta take the sexy blonde from Clemson. He's the best QB prospect since Luck, maybe even Peyton.
So Lawrence has had a fair amount of talent around him. Jones is never going to fully clean up those TOs but he has to show dramatic improvement the back half of this season. Gettleman is 100% gone after this year. Jones is free game.
It was silly how much the BBI Michigan booster club pumped up Peppers
are why I think people are premature in labelling him a number one WR. Teams have tape on him and it's going to be a lot tougher this year. Not sure he has that swagger that you usually see from the true number ones.
The defensive front 3 really is the most encouraging thing about this team right now except maybe for Jones. Unfortunately they need help from the Edge and aren't getting a lot of it.
I don't think it's premature at all. This isn't something he saw at all in college. He recieved a ton of cushion all the time because of his speed. I'm pretty confident he'll learn. At the very least he's a number 1, question is what is the ceiling on him.
RE: It was silly how much the BBI Michigan booster club pumped up Peppers
I haven't seen more mention of the fact that Engram slipped on the play where Jones was intercepted. It was hard to tell exactly what happened there, but am I wrong in thinking that if Engram hadn't slipped he could have caught the ball, or at least prevented it from being intercepted?
I'm not blaming Engram for this -- stuff happens -- and I know Jones made plenty of other mistakes, but this seemed to me like another bad-luck play in a game full of them for the Giants.
RE: RE: It was silly how much the BBI Michigan booster club pumped up Peppers
He's simply never been any good as an NFL safety. He stunk in Cleveland and he stinks here. Great athlete, dynamic punt returner, lousy safety.
A lot of that was people framing the Beckham trade as if it was equal value.
I'm not shocked with his play. He's not even Landon Collins.
He may not be Landon Collins when Collins was with the Giants but he's better than Collins with the WFT. Collins is putrid now. On the opening drive yesterday he missed 2 tackles, had a personal foul penalty, and was clueless on the defensive call that led to nobody covering arguably the best WR in football in Hopkins for an easy TD.
I would take hm being "not that good" at this point.
In reality he sucks. Not that good would be a step up.
Anyone who has watched him the last couple years knows he sucks. But they took the "we got another first liner" line from Gettleman and actually believed what came out of that dumbasses mouth
RE: RE: RE: It was silly how much the BBI Michigan booster club pumped up Peppers
He's simply never been any good as an NFL safety. He stunk in Cleveland and he stinks here. Great athlete, dynamic punt returner, lousy safety.
A lot of that was people framing the Beckham trade as if it was equal value.
I'm not shocked with his play. He's not even Landon Collins.
He may not be Landon Collins when Collins was with the Giants but he's better than Collins with the WFT. Collins is putrid now. On the opening drive yesterday he missed 2 tackles, had a personal foul penalty, and was clueless on the defensive call that led to nobody covering arguably the best WR in football in Hopkins for an easy TD.
I'm not shedding tears wishing he was still here. Just saying Collins as a Giant at least made a few plays on defense. He was a glorified linebacker but he knew how to run and hit.
The guy is the best punt returner we’ve had in a while.
He should be benched as a safety and strictly be a returner/special teams player.
Forget that he was a first round pick. Forget that he was a huge star coming out fo high school, forget what he did at Michigan.
Judge him on his play as a safety in the NFL. He's been in the league long enough to figure out whether or not he can play the position in the NFL. And it's clear he can't. He does nothing well as a safety, not even sure he does anything on an average level. He's a big weakness on a bad defense to begin with. If it wasn't for him as a PR I would be all for just cutting him because his play is atrocious.
Picking up hsi 5th year option was a mistake. And this isn't hindsight. He's going to be a 6 million dollar cap hit as a PR next year.
Something is wrong when Nate Ebner is on the field on key downs
Not sure if you can say “he looked scared”, but he struggled to get off the line. He must do better to get down the field. At times, he made it too easy for the DB at the LOS.
Let’s see more of Board.
Tate offers very little. There is no upside there on this guy. He won’t be on the team next year (or any team). Give Board the snaps.
RE: Really wish Cleveland threw in a real draft pick instead of Peppers.
Is by far the only threat we have had on offense in both games why are we not working the ball to him early in the game. Get him involved early then let’s make the defense account for him. I don’t believe we will ever really have a consistent running game this year why not commit to the passing game.
He is on his fifth team and has done nothing.By the way if Slayton couldn't get off the line last year and has the same problem this year, great coaching.
RE: RE: It was silly how much the BBI Michigan booster club pumped up Peppers
He's simply never been any good as an NFL safety. He stunk in Cleveland and he stinks here. Great athlete, dynamic punt returner, lousy safety.
A lot of that was people framing the Beckham trade as if it was equal value.
I'm not shocked with his play. He's not even Landon Collins.
Even without Peppers, the Beckham deal is looking like a win.
Have you seen Collins play lately? Outside of one year for Collins, which is looking pretty fluky at this point, they're pretty close. Collins was definitely better in run support though.
RE: Really wish Cleveland threw in a real draft pick instead of Peppers.
He is on his fifth team and has done nothing.By the way if Slayton couldn't get off the line last year and has the same problem this year, great coaching.
Different staff. No OTAs. No preseason. Minimal training camp.
Let's see if he's still having issues in the 2nd half of the year.
I agree with giving the QB's three years unless it is so clear they don't belong. I am hopeful as the line stabilizes and improve Jones performance.
Without a good running game I find it very difficult for young QB's. Jones has consistently been put in unfavorable down and distance. This magnifies the Giants lack of outside playmakers and why I think he seems to hold on to the ball that lead to fumbles (no separation). I am far more concerned with the fumbles than interceptions at this point.
Grahams defensive play calls in the 1st have were awful. He kept rushing two or three on 3rd and long even though the line was putting pressure on Trubisky with 4 or 5 rushing. Don't know what he was thinking, but his game plan sucked in the 1st half.
He didn’t play very well at all in this game. Forget the turnovers, there were other things that bothered me even more. It’s early, but we need to see this kid win games and soon.
1) It is not likely Jones drastically cuts down turnovers. He will be asked to do a lot more this year with Barkley out. What we need to see is a lot more positive to outweigh the negatives. I really want to see the fumbles drastically go down.
2) It would really be an interesting decision if we sit with the #1 pick. Personally, I would trade down, especially because there should be a couple of other teams in the top 5 looking for a QB. We could get a nice haul to move a couple of spots.
3) At this stage in their respective careers, I would choose Peppers over Collins. That is not so much an endorsement of Peppers as it is an indictment of Collins. First, outside his near DPOY season, Collins has been a mostly bad S in the NFL. Second, he has had significant injuries to critical body parts. As FatMan pointed out, his entire game is predicated on physicality. When he hurt his shoulder, for me, that was it. It is the joint most likely to be re-injured and it will rob him of some of that physical play. Without that, he is a sub-par S.
1) In the review it is stated that Jones holds the abll too long and the fumble was on him. But, later the point about Slayton comes up and how his play could throw off timing routes (which would make a QB hold the ball). Then it is stated how Thomas gave up the sack fumble. I find it hard to place too much blame on Jones with WR's who can't get off the line and a Tackle who gives up backside pressure. The only knock on Jones there is he should go down easier (ala Eli late in his career) and that to me just isn't right (in this situation). The Int was because Engram slipped and it was noted quite clearly on the broadcast.
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
3) I find the critique of JOnes very much attached to the original assessment (where folks thought he would go draft wise) and in many ways he is not given a fair shake. I dare say Eli would be roasted here (and was then) if his rookie play and play through his first 15 starts were being judged. Jones has all the tools but we have very little at WR (Tate is not going to do much) and no running game so far.
surprised how well the defense is playing together through 2 weeks in a brand new scheme and new players. We are light years ahead of where we were the past 2 years.
The OL, while clearly still struggled at times, was better. Let’s keep improving.
Sy is human too and his assessment of Jones sounded just like his original assessment. Curious!
And he’s losing a little off his fastball if he thinks Barkley can return by training camp since he won’t even have the surgery until sometime later in October.
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
So you think the O-Line will now work harder because Barkley is out? They just went into the game giving 80% because Barkley is playing? lol. What a hot take.
RE: I am not in agreement with the assessment of Jones
1) In the review it is stated that Jones holds the abll too long and the fumble was on him. But, later the point about Slayton comes up and how his play could throw off timing routes (which would make a QB hold the ball). Then it is stated how Thomas gave up the sack fumble. I find it hard to place too much blame on Jones with WR's who can't get off the line and a Tackle who gives up backside pressure. The only knock on Jones there is he should go down easier (ala Eli late in his career) and that to me just isn't right (in this situation). The Int was because Engram slipped and it was noted quite clearly on the broadcast.
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
3) I find the critique of JOnes very much attached to the original assessment (where folks thought he would go draft wise) and in many ways he is not given a fair shake. I dare say Eli would be roasted here (and was then) if his rookie play and play through his first 15 starts were being judged. Jones has all the tools but we have very little at WR (Tate is not going to do much) and no running game so far.
I agree the fumble wasn't all on Jones. He was bringing it back to throw, when he was hit and it was a pretty quick drop back.
That said, Eli was continually roasted here throughout his career. Rookie year, SB years, it didn't matter.
My take:
1.) Jones did seem off, but to blame the fumble on him is a mistake (as someone else pointed out). The ball was whacked out of his hands form the blind-side and behind him. i think even if he had 2 hands on it thats a fumble. And I think both interceptions were on similar plays (one being called back). I think the actual interception wasn't called for PI because Engram slipped. That said, Jones didn't seem as crisp though I think his protection calls got better.
2.) I think they have to try Peppers on Offense. We have 3 Safties at 5-11 (is that small for a safety?) and he is the worst. Keep him there as a back up and get him involved on the other side of the ball.
3.)More worried about Sheppard than I am Slayton even without the injury. The physicality of the game is catching up with him.
4.) I feel like I never hear or see Ximines name around the football. I am seeing more of Carter (though I think he has to come up with another 'move' besides the bullrush) and Fackrell seems to always be around it(as well as Martinez, thank god). I think we HAVE to make a passrusher or two THE TOP PRIORITY in the offseason. And if Downs sucks, lets try some of our 'cluster draft' line backers.
6.) With SB out, I'm fine with RB by committee. Its almost a better as it will be harder for opposing defenses to focus on one player to take away half our offense. If you threw peppers in the mix(no pun intended), that would confuse some defenses I think. Time to get 'Special Teams' kind of creative!
5.)I am in a vast minority, but i don't think Trubisky is as horrible as he's made out to be. Its HARD to find a good QB even when you draft them in the top 10 and while he isn't as good as Josh Allen seems, he doesn't seem as bad as Darnold. Granted he was the #2 pick, but who is to say if they even could draft Lawrence that He'd work out? unless he somehow has a monster year I don't think he'll cost them too much and with the parts around him he's good enough to get you to the SB.
RE: RE: I am not in agreement with the assessment of Jones
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
So you think the O-Line will now work harder because Barkley is out? They just went into the game giving 80% because Barkley is playing? lol. What a hot take.
Dear GOD- fucking read will you. Meaning, it can be easy to assume a GREAT BACK will make a guy miss or will do this or that. The Oline knows they have to pick it up and can'ty take shit for granted (period). Is it that fucking hard to understand?
RE: RE: RE: I am not in agreement with the assessment of Jones
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
So you think the O-Line will now work harder because Barkley is out? They just went into the game giving 80% because Barkley is playing? lol. What a hot take.
Dear GOD- fucking read will you. Meaning, it can be easy to assume a GREAT BACK will make a guy miss or will do this or that. The Oline knows they have to pick it up and can'ty take shit for granted (period). Is it that fucking hard to understand?
Actually, yeah it kind of is. The Offensive Line will now work harder because Saquon is out? That's essentially what you are saying. They weren't giving it their all because Saquon can make a few guys miss. Yet, Saquon hasn't missed a guy this year. But hey, good point. You should be on NFL Countdown with your scorching hot takes.
Must win to keep alive the dream of a meaningful season past Halloween. Something we have not had around here for a while.
I think you make good points about Barkley. Jones does have a short memory, takes hits and keeps coming at you. Remind you of anyone? The Slayton drop was big.
Bears lucked out with the fluke fourth down catch by a lineman. Might have been a different outcome.
Giants must win next week. That is my Super Bowl. I have low expectations.
Starting to think, uh, he's maybe that not good?
Starting to think, uh, he's maybe that not good?
He is not making plays, that is clear.
The defensive front 3 really is the most encouraging thing about this team right now except maybe for Jones. Unfortunately they need help from the Edge and aren't getting a lot of it.
I don't think it will come to that, but there's a chance it will.
Coming out in the draft, Mayock thought RB was his best NFL position.
The defensive front 3 really is the most encouraging thing about this team right now except maybe for Jones. Unfortunately they need help from the Edge and aren't getting a lot of it.
I don't think it's premature at all. This isn't something he saw at all in college. He recieved a ton of cushion all the time because of his speed. I'm pretty confident he'll learn. At the very least he's a number 1, question is what is the ceiling on him.
A lot of that was people framing the Beckham trade as if it was equal value.
I'm not shocked with his play. He's not even Landon Collins.
I'm not blaming Engram for this -- stuff happens -- and I know Jones made plenty of other mistakes, but this seemed to me like another bad-luck play in a game full of them for the Giants.
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He's simply never been any good as an NFL safety. He stunk in Cleveland and he stinks here. Great athlete, dynamic punt returner, lousy safety.
A lot of that was people framing the Beckham trade as if it was equal value.
I'm not shocked with his play. He's not even Landon Collins.
He may not be Landon Collins when Collins was with the Giants but he's better than Collins with the WFT. Collins is putrid now. On the opening drive yesterday he missed 2 tackles, had a personal foul penalty, and was clueless on the defensive call that led to nobody covering arguably the best WR in football in Hopkins for an easy TD.
Thanks. I should have caught that.
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Interesting points on WR Slayton.
Starting to think, uh, he's maybe that not good?
I would take hm being "not that good" at this point.
In reality he sucks. Not that good would be a step up.
Anyone who has watched him the last couple years knows he sucks. But they took the "we got another first liner" line from Gettleman and actually believed what came out of that dumbasses mouth
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He's simply never been any good as an NFL safety. He stunk in Cleveland and he stinks here. Great athlete, dynamic punt returner, lousy safety.
A lot of that was people framing the Beckham trade as if it was equal value.
I'm not shocked with his play. He's not even Landon Collins.
He may not be Landon Collins when Collins was with the Giants but he's better than Collins with the WFT. Collins is putrid now. On the opening drive yesterday he missed 2 tackles, had a personal foul penalty, and was clueless on the defensive call that led to nobody covering arguably the best WR in football in Hopkins for an easy TD.
I'm not shedding tears wishing he was still here. Just saying Collins as a Giant at least made a few plays on defense. He was a glorified linebacker but he knew how to run and hit.
You can't resign a guy with a bum shoulder whose main strength was leading with his shoulder to deliver hits.
He is and was a liability in coverage and his injury has made his ability to be strong in run support negated.
He should be benched as a safety and strictly be a returner/special teams player.
Forget that he was a first round pick. Forget that he was a huge star coming out fo high school, forget what he did at Michigan.
Judge him on his play as a safety in the NFL. He's been in the league long enough to figure out whether or not he can play the position in the NFL. And it's clear he can't. He does nothing well as a safety, not even sure he does anything on an average level. He's a big weakness on a bad defense to begin with. If it wasn't for him as a PR I would be all for just cutting him because his play is atrocious.
Picking up hsi 5th year option was a mistake. And this isn't hindsight. He's going to be a 6 million dollar cap hit as a PR next year.
At least Graham made some adjustments in the second half though. Seems like 5 years since the Giants made second half adjustments.
Let’s see more of Board.
Tate offers very little. There is no upside there on this guy. He won’t be on the team next year (or any team). Give Board the snaps.
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Not at $14M a year. He's hilariously overpaid.
The defense has gotten better...
I am getting a little worried DG will not shed the turnovers.
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He's simply never been any good as an NFL safety. He stunk in Cleveland and he stinks here. Great athlete, dynamic punt returner, lousy safety.
A lot of that was people framing the Beckham trade as if it was equal value.
I'm not shocked with his play. He's not even Landon Collins.
Even without Peppers, the Beckham deal is looking like a win.
Have you seen Collins play lately? Outside of one year for Collins, which is looking pretty fluky at this point, they're pretty close. Collins was definitely better in run support though.
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If you're taking into account the money, no way is it even close to being Collins...
Different staff. No OTAs. No preseason. Minimal training camp.
Let's see if he's still having issues in the 2nd half of the year.
Without a good running game I find it very difficult for young QB's. Jones has consistently been put in unfavorable down and distance. This magnifies the Giants lack of outside playmakers and why I think he seems to hold on to the ball that lead to fumbles (no separation). I am far more concerned with the fumbles than interceptions at this point.
Ryan/Love. Peppers can play hybrid LB.
2) It would really be an interesting decision if we sit with the #1 pick. Personally, I would trade down, especially because there should be a couple of other teams in the top 5 looking for a QB. We could get a nice haul to move a couple of spots.
3) At this stage in their respective careers, I would choose Peppers over Collins. That is not so much an endorsement of Peppers as it is an indictment of Collins. First, outside his near DPOY season, Collins has been a mostly bad S in the NFL. Second, he has had significant injuries to critical body parts. As FatMan pointed out, his entire game is predicated on physicality. When he hurt his shoulder, for me, that was it. It is the joint most likely to be re-injured and it will rob him of some of that physical play. Without that, he is a sub-par S.
The defense has gotten better...
I am getting a little worried DG will not shed the turnovers.
His mistakes are not scheme based. He just takes terrible angles. He is a huge liability in space, which is a bad trait for a safety
1) In the review it is stated that Jones holds the abll too long and the fumble was on him. But, later the point about Slayton comes up and how his play could throw off timing routes (which would make a QB hold the ball). Then it is stated how Thomas gave up the sack fumble. I find it hard to place too much blame on Jones with WR's who can't get off the line and a Tackle who gives up backside pressure. The only knock on Jones there is he should go down easier (ala Eli late in his career) and that to me just isn't right (in this situation). The Int was because Engram slipped and it was noted quite clearly on the broadcast.
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
3) I find the critique of JOnes very much attached to the original assessment (where folks thought he would go draft wise) and in many ways he is not given a fair shake. I dare say Eli would be roasted here (and was then) if his rookie play and play through his first 15 starts were being judged. Jones has all the tools but we have very little at WR (Tate is not going to do much) and no running game so far.
The OL, while clearly still struggled at times, was better. Let’s keep improving.
And he’s losing a little off his fastball if he thinks Barkley can return by training camp since he won’t even have the surgery until sometime later in October.
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
So you think the O-Line will now work harder because Barkley is out? They just went into the game giving 80% because Barkley is playing? lol. What a hot take.
1) In the review it is stated that Jones holds the abll too long and the fumble was on him. But, later the point about Slayton comes up and how his play could throw off timing routes (which would make a QB hold the ball). Then it is stated how Thomas gave up the sack fumble. I find it hard to place too much blame on Jones with WR's who can't get off the line and a Tackle who gives up backside pressure. The only knock on Jones there is he should go down easier (ala Eli late in his career) and that to me just isn't right (in this situation). The Int was because Engram slipped and it was noted quite clearly on the broadcast.
2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
3) I find the critique of JOnes very much attached to the original assessment (where folks thought he would go draft wise) and in many ways he is not given a fair shake. I dare say Eli would be roasted here (and was then) if his rookie play and play through his first 15 starts were being judged. Jones has all the tools but we have very little at WR (Tate is not going to do much) and no running game so far.
I agree the fumble wasn't all on Jones. He was bringing it back to throw, when he was hit and it was a pretty quick drop back.
That said, Eli was continually roasted here throughout his career. Rookie year, SB years, it didn't matter.
1.) Jones did seem off, but to blame the fumble on him is a mistake (as someone else pointed out). The ball was whacked out of his hands form the blind-side and behind him. i think even if he had 2 hands on it thats a fumble. And I think both interceptions were on similar plays (one being called back). I think the actual interception wasn't called for PI because Engram slipped. That said, Jones didn't seem as crisp though I think his protection calls got better.
2.) I think they have to try Peppers on Offense. We have 3 Safties at 5-11 (is that small for a safety?) and he is the worst. Keep him there as a back up and get him involved on the other side of the ball.
3.)More worried about Sheppard than I am Slayton even without the injury. The physicality of the game is catching up with him.
4.) I feel like I never hear or see Ximines name around the football. I am seeing more of Carter (though I think he has to come up with another 'move' besides the bullrush) and Fackrell seems to always be around it(as well as Martinez, thank god). I think we HAVE to make a passrusher or two THE TOP PRIORITY in the offseason. And if Downs sucks, lets try some of our 'cluster draft' line backers.
6.) With SB out, I'm fine with RB by committee. Its almost a better as it will be harder for opposing defenses to focus on one player to take away half our offense. If you threw peppers in the mix(no pun intended), that would confuse some defenses I think. Time to get 'Special Teams' kind of creative!
5.)I am in a vast minority, but i don't think Trubisky is as horrible as he's made out to be. Its HARD to find a good QB even when you draft them in the top 10 and while he isn't as good as Josh Allen seems, he doesn't seem as bad as Darnold. Granted he was the #2 pick, but who is to say if they even could draft Lawrence that He'd work out? unless he somehow has a monster year I don't think he'll cost them too much and with the parts around him he's good enough to get you to the SB.
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2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
So you think the O-Line will now work harder because Barkley is out? They just went into the game giving 80% because Barkley is playing? lol. What a hot take.
Dear GOD- fucking read will you. Meaning, it can be easy to assume a GREAT BACK will make a guy miss or will do this or that. The Oline knows they have to pick it up and can'ty take shit for granted (period). Is it that fucking hard to understand?
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2) Nothing about the Giants offense Sunday looked good. It was herky jerky and really lacked any kind of fluidity. I actually think with Barkley out it takes pressure off Garrett (play calling) and makes the Oline work harder knowing they need to help the "lesser" backs. This will also benefit Jones.
So you think the O-Line will now work harder because Barkley is out? They just went into the game giving 80% because Barkley is playing? lol. What a hot take.
Dear GOD- fucking read will you. Meaning, it can be easy to assume a GREAT BACK will make a guy miss or will do this or that. The Oline knows they have to pick it up and can'ty take shit for granted (period). Is it that fucking hard to understand?
Actually, yeah it kind of is. The Offensive Line will now work harder because Saquon is out? That's essentially what you are saying. They weren't giving it their all because Saquon can make a few guys miss. Yet, Saquon hasn't missed a guy this year. But hey, good point. You should be on NFL Countdown with your scorching hot takes.
I think you make good points about Barkley. Jones does have a short memory, takes hits and keeps coming at you. Remind you of anyone? The Slayton drop was big.
Bears lucked out with the fluke fourth down catch by a lineman. Might have been a different outcome.
Giants must win next week. That is my Super Bowl. I have low expectations.