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This, I believe, is where Garrett will earn his keep

Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 8:00 am
Obviously, the loss of Barkley was huge can’t be easily replaced. With past OCs, nothing would have changed. The PC would have been the same and predictable. I think the last OC we had who was not averse to change was Gilbride.

I always viewed JG as a solid PC. Sure, he had his wtf moments, i.e. overusing Barber against us in the first half of our playoff game in 2008, to where he had nothing left in the second half. But it appeared that his wtf moments were few and far between, imv.

When he became HC, his OCs seemed to be in lock-step with his PC tendencies, which was simply to change whenever necessary, given his personnel on game day and the looks the D gave him.

This is the reason I was thrilled when they hired him as the OC. He’ll work to DJ’s strengths as he did with Romo.

I’m looking forward to what he has planned sans SB and how he will utilize our RBs, whoever they might be. He’s not a miracle worker and there might very well be the expected “glitches,” but one thing’s for certainly, he will not be stagnant, imho.

First sentence should read, AND can’t be easily replaced.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 8:01 am : link
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Sheesh,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 8:03 am : link
for certain, not certainly.
Hope he finds something,  
section125 : 9/22/2020 8:06 am : link
because the offense has not been very offensive yet!
I know it was only 5 quarters, but I was very unimpressed with how  
jlukes : 9/22/2020 8:07 am : link
he tried to get Barkley the ball.

He was our best playmaker, and he did very little to get Barkley the ball in space.
This coaching staff overall is impressive  
BillT : 9/22/2020 8:11 am : link
Garrett was a really good hire. It’s so evident Judge came with a plan and a vision for what he wanted from his coaches and how to organize the team. It just feels so different than what we’ve seen recently.
Garrett's offense needs a tight end  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 9/22/2020 8:11 am : link
And unfortunately Engram is not Witten.
I am hoping  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/22/2020 8:21 am : link
he has a better idea how to best use the personnel's strengths. Really needs to work with Jones on the turnovers. Have to get the run game going and then the offense needs to be mistake free with the limited outside weapons imo. This team can't lose the turnover battle and expect many wins.
RE: I know it was only 5 quarters, but I was very unimpressed with how  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2020 8:24 am : link
In comment 14981203 jlukes said:
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he tried to get Barkley the ball.

He was our best playmaker, and he did very little to get Barkley the ball in space.


At face value I would agree but mainly due to the Steelers game. That said they threw everything they had at him and just won that battle.

Bears game was different. He was starting to feel it right before the injury, I have to believe that wasn't just coincidence.
I didn't think Gilbride changed his offense much  
GManinDC : 9/22/2020 8:24 am : link
But i hope you are right on Garrett. he is auditioning for another HC job and he just lost his ace in the hole. problem is, he is limited in skill positions
RE: I know it was only 5 quarters, but I was very unimpressed with how  
fireitup77 : 9/22/2020 8:35 am : link
In comment 14981203 jlukes said:
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he tried to get Barkley the ball.

He was our best playmaker, and he did very little to get Barkley the ball in space.


+1
I think part of the reason he didn't move Barkley around  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2020 8:38 am : link
in the Steelers game was needing an extra blocker to handle that pass rush. It was relentless and it was game 1 with a new OLine and rookie LT.

Just something to think about.
I think you will see a lot of spread em out offense  
nygiants16 : 9/22/2020 8:39 am : link
It wont be a traditional running game unless they sign freeman, i think they try to get lewis in space 1 on 1 with LBs..

That will be your running game
RE: I didn't think Gilbride changed his offense much  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/22/2020 8:48 am : link
In comment 14981219 GManinDC said:
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But i hope you are right on Garrett. he is auditioning for another HC job and he just lost his ace in the hole. problem is, he is limited in skill positions


The skill players are a big problem without the running game and Barkley. Jones does not have the OL and weapons without a ground game and unfortunately it will lead to more turnovers.
Perhaps we’ll get to see Kaden Smith  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 8:50 am : link
more?
RE: Perhaps we’ll get to see Kaden Smith  
Greg from LI : 9/22/2020 8:56 am : link
In comment 14981243 Big Blue '56 said:
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more?


Oh boy! A really slow TE is just the tonic for what's ailing the offense.
Fiddy  
GManinDC : 9/22/2020 8:57 am : link
We will have to, but out of necessity. What we saw in the last 2 game in gonna be the blueprint for defenses against the Giants. Rub blitz to keep the TE's in and blanket Slayton.

Doesn't this sound familiar?
I rewatched the game last night  
Dinger : 9/22/2020 9:00 am : link
and though I am not as football savvy as some on here, I was impressed with the OL. They held up fairly well against one of the better DL in the league and you could see them getting better as the game went on. I'm hoping its Columbo and the talent we have as well as time together and not a fluke. If they continue to progress this makes play calling easier especially when you have a talent like DJ at QB. I'm not saying he's great but he has the ability to put the ball in tight windows, he can make big throws and he can extend and make plays with his legs. No knock against Barkley but a QB who is has a diverse set of talents helps an offense more than a RB with the same.
Garrett is a superior offensive mind  
RetroJint : 9/22/2020 9:19 am : link
He was raised in the Coryell -Zampese-Turner Cowboy version of the Vertical . He proved his adaptability to changing circumstances by refining his offense to match Dak’s skill set .

The Giants are lucky to have him . Jones is particularly lucky to have him .
Fiddy  
GManinDC : 9/22/2020 9:23 am : link
BTW, I am still pissed with TC and Gilbride about 2008!
BB, +1 you can almost tell the age demographic by the tone of posts  
Spider56 : 9/22/2020 9:30 am : link
I think the older we are the more understanding we are of what has to happen to build a functioning, cohesive team and the more patient we are to see it happen. Most, not all of our younguns, want the quick fantasy, video game fixes ... I think this coaching staff is solid and will get us there, and as I’ve said several times, most of the greatest coaches in the game had losing seasons to start.
RE: BB, +1 you can almost tell the age demographic by the tone of posts  
crick n NC : 9/22/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 14981278 Spider56 said:
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I think the older we are the more understanding we are of what has to happen to build a functioning, cohesive team and the more patient we are to see it happen. Most, not all of our younguns, want the quick fantasy, video game fixes ... I think this coaching staff is solid and will get us there, and as I’ve said several times, most of the greatest coaches in the game had losing seasons to start.


I think it's a solid mix between older and younger fans. Age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom. Fans that choose to limit their understanding of the game mixed with an arrogant attitude struggle to understand how and why certain teams may win or lose on a somewhat consistent basis. Anytime we decide that we know all there is to know without understanding we are on the outside looking in our minds seem to close to contrary information. In my opinion.
RE: Fiddy  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 9:50 am : link
In comment 14981274 GManinDC said:
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BTW, I am still pissed with TC and Gilbride about 2008!


What exactly bothers you about that, aside from Plax and a depleted/overworked/injured D down the stretch?
Garrett will earn his keep with Jones' development  
Eric on Li : 9/22/2020 9:57 am : link
and that's pretty absolute. They had a chance to win that game because of Jones and he's obviously also got some mistakes to correct going forward. If Garrett can get the turnovers sorted out and get him anticipating throws better we will win games like that.
Not using Hixon correctly.  
GManinDC : 9/22/2020 9:57 am : link
I think we had this conversation years ago. They asked then about changing the playbook after Plax got shot and they said they wouldn't.

But we're not re-hashing that one!.

How ya been?
RE: Not using Hixon correctly.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 10:09 am : link
In comment 14981324 GManinDC said:
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I think we had this conversation years ago. They asked then about changing the playbook after Plax got shot and they said they wouldn't.

But we're not re-hashing that one!.

How ya been?


Doing great..Ah, I kinda recall the Hixon talk..
RE: RE: Perhaps we’ll get to see Kaden Smith  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 10:10 am : link
In comment 14981246 Greg from LI said:
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Oh boy! A really slow TE is just the tonic for what's ailing the offense.


NOT IN ANY WAY COMPARING THEM, but Witten was slow as shit. Kaden can block and hopefully JG, should he utilize him, can get him into open spaces
RE: RE: Perhaps we’ll get to see Kaden Smith  
HomerJones45 : 9/22/2020 10:37 am : link
In comment 14981246 Greg from LI said:
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Oh boy! A really slow TE is just the tonic for what's ailing the offense.
Head shaking, isn't it. The tonic for an offense that has scored 29 points in two games is throwing more passes to slugs.

Garrett and his offense so far have been unimpressive and the offense lousy. Lots of 3-4 passes, no running game to speak of and total shit in the red zone.
RE: Garrett is a superior offensive mind  
HomerJones45 : 9/22/2020 10:46 am : link
In comment 14981269 RetroJint said:
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He was raised in the Coryell -Zampese-Turner Cowboy version of the Vertical . He proved his adaptability to changing circumstances by refining his offense to match Dak’s skill set .

The Giants are lucky to have him . Jones is particularly lucky to have him .
Let me fix the title for you- "Garrett [thinks he] is a superior offensive mind".

Prove it Jason. After a couple of games with an offense where there are 5 #1 picks (3 of those top 10) and 3 #2 picks, the results have been underwhelming.
I know Garrett is hamstrung  
DieHard : 9/22/2020 10:46 am : link
By a developing O-line, losing Saquon, and Jones's inconsistencies -- I just hope to see him adapting more quickly to circumstances moving forward. The first 2 games, he's been hell-bent on establishing the run, to the offense's detriment (overwhelmed OL in game 1, Barkley's injury in game 2). Balance is a nice thing, but I've seen two many 2-yard gains (and negative yardage plays) on the ground, with Garrett stubbornly continuing to go to that well, when the only mild success we've had is through the air. This is where Judge as team CEO needs to come into play, and get Garrett to stop going with what's not working a lot sooner.
RE: I know Garrett is hamstrung  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2020 10:49 am : link
In comment 14981412 DieHard said:
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By a developing O-line, losing Saquon, and Jones's inconsistencies -- I just hope to see him adapting more quickly to circumstances moving forward. The first 2 games, he's been hell-bent on establishing the run, to the offense's detriment (overwhelmed OL in game 1, Barkley's injury in game 2). Balance is a nice thing, but I've seen two many 2-yard gains (and negative yardage plays) on the ground, with Garrett stubbornly continuing to go to that well, when the only mild success we've had is through the air. This is where Judge as team CEO needs to come into play, and get Garrett to stop going with what's not working a lot sooner.


Sounds too easy. I know fans want to just ditch what isn't working but that rarely works out in the NFL. If it did you'd see it happen all the time.

WE stop trying to establish the run we are left trying to put the team on Jones' shoulders throwing to now maybe 2 legit options in the passing game. That's a recipe for disaster, IMO.
I see there are those who  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 10:53 am : link
are not big JG fans. Cool. We’re talking opinions here. I’m essentially commenting on JG’s entire body of work, not his 2 games here. I have faith in the guy as our OC. Per usual, we’ll just have to see.
Hmm  
GManinDC : 9/22/2020 11:09 am : link
No preseason
No training camp
barely any practice
New staff
New players

And people are expecting to see results in 2 freaking games!!!!??
RE: RE: I know Garrett is hamstrung  
DieHard : 9/22/2020 11:29 am : link
In comment 14981415 UConn4523 said:
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By a developing O-line, losing Saquon, and Jones's inconsistencies -- I just hope to see him adapting more quickly to circumstances moving forward. The first 2 games, he's been hell-bent on establishing the run, to the offense's detriment (overwhelmed OL in game 1, Barkley's injury in game 2). Balance is a nice thing, but I've seen two many 2-yard gains (and negative yardage plays) on the ground, with Garrett stubbornly continuing to go to that well, when the only mild success we've had is through the air. This is where Judge as team CEO needs to come into play, and get Garrett to stop going with what's not working a lot sooner.



Sounds too easy. I know fans want to just ditch what isn't working but that rarely works out in the NFL. If it did you'd see it happen all the time.

WE stop trying to establish the run we are left trying to put the team on Jones' shoulders throwing to now maybe 2 legit options in the passing game. That's a recipe for disaster, IMO.


I know we shouldn't oversimplify, but I do think most coaches in this league are pretty rigid to a fault, and stick to what they believe rather than what they see, way too much. It's why a coach like Belichick looks like such a genius -- he's not afraid to mix things up and adjust on the fly.

Like I said, Garrett hasn't been dealt a great hand. But if Judge wants this to be a "multiple" team that adapts to the opponent and the situation, it starts with playcalling. If the alternative is between letting Jones air it out and hoping he develops under fire, or continuing to slam established mediocrities like Gallman/Lewis into the line for 2-yard gains or losses, I know which way I'd pick.
RE: RE: RE: I know Garrett is hamstrung  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 11:37 am : link
In comment 14981460 DieHard said:
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By a developing O-line, losing Saquon, and Jones's inconsistencies -- I just hope to see him adapting more quickly to circumstances moving forward. The first 2 games, he's been hell-bent on establishing the run, to the offense's detriment (overwhelmed OL in game 1, Barkley's injury in game 2). Balance is a nice thing, but I've seen two many 2-yard gains (and negative yardage plays) on the ground, with Garrett stubbornly continuing to go to that well, when the only mild success we've had is through the air. This is where Judge as team CEO needs to come into play, and get Garrett to stop going with what's not working a lot sooner.



Sounds too easy. I know fans want to just ditch what isn't working but that rarely works out in the NFL. If it did you'd see it happen all the time.

WE stop trying to establish the run we are left trying to put the team on Jones' shoulders throwing to now maybe 2 legit options in the passing game. That's a recipe for disaster, IMO.



I know we shouldn't oversimplify, but I do think most coaches in this league are pretty rigid to a fault, and stick to what they believe rather than what they see, way too much. It's why a coach like Belichick looks like such a genius -- he's not afraid to mix things up and adjust on the fly.

Like I said, Garrett hasn't been dealt a great hand. But if Judge wants this to be a "multiple" team that adapts to the opponent and the situation, it starts with playcalling. If the alternative is between letting Jones air it out and hoping he develops under fire, or continuing to slam established mediocrities like Gallman/Lewis into the line for 2-yard gains or losses, I know which way I'd pick.


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But if Judge wants this to be a "multiple" team that adapts to the opponent and the situation, it starts with playcalling.



Well, if he’s learned anything from Belichick during his 8 (?) years there, he will adjust and quickly..
RE: Fiddy  
Dr. D : 9/22/2020 11:51 am : link
In comment 14981274 GManinDC said:
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BTW, I am still pissed with TC and Gilbride about 2008!

Did one of them put the gun in Plax's sweatpants?
Good thoughts  
Dave on the UWS : 9/22/2020 1:13 pm : link
Pass EVERY down into some defenses with the pass rush pinning their ears back. That will work well! Whose the back up QB- to the back up QB cause your gonna need him by season’s end. The real NFL is not Madden. Too many posters don’t seem to get that. Judge said the first 4 games is “kind of like pre season” for a reason.
RE: Good thoughts  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14981545 Dave on the UWS said:
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Pass EVERY down into some defenses with the pass rush pinning their ears back. That will work well! Whose the back up QB- to the back up QB cause your gonna need him by season’s end. The real NFL is not Madden. Too many posters don’t seem to get that. Judge said the first 4 games is “kind of like pre season” for a reason.


ESPECIALLY when you have an entirely new coaching staff, or almost so.
The OP permise is factually inaccuate  
arniefez : 9/22/2020 2:01 pm : link
Coughlin/Gilbride never changed their play calling based on the skill set of the players.

They ran Jacobs plays for Ward they ran Burress plays for Hixon. One of their biggest weaknesses was insisting on jamming square pegs into round holes.

As far as Barkley goes we're about 3 week away from a completely different tune around here. You'll see.
RE: The OP permise is factually inaccuate  
GManinDC : 9/22/2020 2:18 pm : link
In comment 14981572 arniefez said:
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Coughlin/Gilbride never changed their play calling based on the skill set of the players.

They ran Jacobs plays for Ward they ran Burress plays for Hixon. One of their biggest weaknesses was insisting on jamming square pegs into round holes.

As far as Barkley goes we're about 3 week away from a completely different tune around here. You'll see.



This. This is what I felt about that tandem. The inability to change strategy. I remember the RB coach being asked the same question and he said they wasn't changing the plays.
Hey, I could be misremembering.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 2:31 pm : link
I seemed to remember they changed things up at times. Could be mistaken.
RE: Good thoughts  
DieHard : 9/22/2020 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14981545 Dave on the UWS said:
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Pass EVERY down into some defenses with the pass rush pinning their ears back. That will work well! Whose the back up QB- to the back up QB cause your gonna need him by season’s end. The real NFL is not Madden. Too many posters don’t seem to get that. Judge said the first 4 games is “kind of like pre season” for a reason.


Nice strawman -- show me where I said we should pass on every down. I'm talking about making in-game adjustments, like good teams do. When straight-ahead 1st-and-10 runs are consistently resulting in 2nd and 10+, I'd like to see them mix things up, even if it's just a misdirection run. So far I've seen more playcalling variety from Shurmur's offense.

Anyway, Jones should be the focus moving forward, especially with Barkley out. I realize Judge is a fundamentals guy, and he's trying to establish fundamentals in all aspects of offense, but if this is about building something sustainable, as he keeps saying, he has to determine if Jones is part of the solution or the problem. Gear the attack around him and see how he responds. He might not be the future, but having the likes of Lewis and Gallman handling the ball on half your offensive plays definitely isn't the future.
RE: RE: Perhaps we’ll get to see Kaden Smith  
Matt M. : 9/22/2020 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14981246 Greg from LI said:
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Oh boy! A really slow TE is just the tonic for what's ailing the offense.
I'm wondering the same as Big Blue. Smith may not be fast, but I late in last season he made a lot of plays by knowing how to get open, especially in zones. Is he ideal? No. He isn't fast, big, or strong. He isn't an every down TE. But, I can see him making plays.
I would also split Engram wide more often  
Matt M. : 9/22/2020 2:43 pm : link
Force defenses to either remove a LB from the box to account for him or create a mismatch on a CB, for example.
RE: I would also split Engram wide more often  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14981627 Matt M. said:
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Force defenses to either remove a LB from the box to account for him or create a mismatch on a CB, for example.


Wondering if JG will do just that given how SS is out with a turf toe
RE: Hey, I could be misremembering.  
GManinDC : 9/22/2020 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14981612 Big Blue '56 said:
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I seemed to remember they changed things up at times. Could be mistaken.


No big deal. Just one thing that bothered me through that time. That tandem won 2 SB's. What the hell do I know?
RE: RE: Garrett is a superior offensive mind  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/22/2020 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14981409 HomerJones45 said:
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He was raised in the Coryell -Zampese-Turner Cowboy version of the Vertical . He proved his adaptability to changing circumstances by refining his offense to match Dak’s skill set .

The Giants are lucky to have him . Jones is particularly lucky to have him .

Let me fix the title for you- "Garrett [thinks he] is a superior offensive mind".

Prove it Jason. After a couple of games with an offense where there are 5 #1 picks (3 of those top 10) and 3 #2 picks, the results have been underwhelming.


I just don't understand some of the ridiculous shit you post. Do you have any supporting evidence that Garrett thinks he is a superior offensive mind?? Of course you don't, it is just the continued assault on the board as a doddering, negative blowhard.

Part of the reason Garrett lasted so long in Dallas is his humility. It is known throughout the league. A brash, arrogant guy would've butted head with Jones and been shown the door quickly. His lack of arrogance has actually been used against him in the past.

I get people being disappointed with the team, but insulting a guy without having any fucking clue about what you're saying is pretty despicable, yet we see it time and again.
I thought the offense looked much better in second half  
Vanzetti : 9/22/2020 4:39 pm : link
I mean they were on the four yard line and could easily have won that game. Probably the wasted TO cost them the game.

Most important thing this season DJ's development.

To be honest, the first half he did not look like an NFL QB. The second half he did.

RE: RE: RE: Garrett is a superior offensive mind  
HomerJones45 : 9/22/2020 4:50 pm : link
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He was raised in the Coryell -Zampese-Turner Cowboy version of the Vertical . He proved his adaptability to changing circumstances by refining his offense to match Dak’s skill set .

The Giants are lucky to have him . Jones is particularly lucky to have him .

Let me fix the title for you- "Garrett [thinks he] is a superior offensive mind".

Prove it Jason. After a couple of games with an offense where there are 5 #1 picks (3 of those top 10) and 3 #2 picks, the results have been underwhelming.



I just don't understand some of the ridiculous shit you post. Do you have any supporting evidence that Garrett thinks he is a superior offensive mind?? Of course you don't, it is just the continued assault on the board as a doddering, negative blowhard.

Part of the reason Garrett lasted so long in Dallas is his humility. It is known throughout the league. A brash, arrogant guy would've butted head with Jones and been shown the door quickly. His lack of arrogance has actually been used against him in the past.

I get people being disappointed with the team, but insulting a guy without having any fucking clue about what you're saying is pretty despicable, yet we see it time and again.
I'll post what I want, and I don't give a flying fuck if you don't like it. 7/8 of this Board thought Garrett was a failure in Dallas with the talent he had to work with and had a good time yukking it up at his expense. Now that he's the OC here, the same 7/8 want to suck him off. Let's see this team break the magical 20 point barrier.

And if you want to see a blowhard, go look in the mirror, jackass.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/22/2020 4:56 pm : link
fuck off. Post what you want and expect to get called on the bullshit. I'm not saying anything positive or negative about Garrett. You said he thinks he's a superior offensive mind and anyone who know him will tell you otherwise.

If you are following this team and personally attack the OC by being completely full of shit, I hope you are called on it every fucking time. It's downright embarrassing.

You supposedly follow this team, yet have no clue on how Garrett is looked at. No idea what he's noted for by his peers and yet you derided him on the exact opposite thing he's known for. He's one of the good guys in the NFL. He's a down to Earth guy. Yet you decided to take a potshot at him with no evidence.

The better question is why the fuck that post ever sees the light of day
7/8 of us (weird percentage but i'll go with it)  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2020 5:05 pm : link
didn't want him as our new HC. I was perfectly fine with his OC candidacy because he can focus on what he's good at and doesn't have to worry about the things he isn't good at.

Do you realize the difference in the two jobs? Have you watched what the last 2 HC hires did here and what they did previously?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Garrett is a superior offensive mind  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2020 5:16 pm : link
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He was raised in the Coryell -Zampese-Turner Cowboy version of the Vertical . He proved his adaptability to changing circumstances by refining his offense to match Dak’s skill set .

The Giants are lucky to have him . Jones is particularly lucky to have him .

Let me fix the title for you- "Garrett [thinks he] is a superior offensive mind".

Prove it Jason. After a couple of games with an offense where there are 5 #1 picks (3 of those top 10) and 3 #2 picks, the results have been underwhelming.



I just don't understand some of the ridiculous shit you post. Do you have any supporting evidence that Garrett thinks he is a superior offensive mind?? Of course you don't, it is just the continued assault on the board as a doddering, negative blowhard.

Part of the reason Garrett lasted so long in Dallas is his humility. It is known throughout the league. A brash, arrogant guy would've butted head with Jones and been shown the door quickly. His lack of arrogance has actually been used against him in the past.

I get people being disappointed with the team, but insulting a guy without having any fucking clue about what you're saying is pretty despicable, yet we see it time and again.

I'll post what I want, and I don't give a flying fuck if you don't like it. 7/8 of this Board thought Garrett was a failure in Dallas with the talent he had to work with and had a good time yukking it up at his expense. Now that he's the OC here, the same 7/8 want to suck him off. Let's see this team break the magical 20 point barrier.

And if you want to see a blowhard, go look in the mirror, jackass.


Gene, as UConn posted, most of us wanted to steer clear of him as a HC. Most of us had no problem with him as our OC.
For HC I was a hard no on Garrett and McCarthy  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2020 5:34 pm : link
I was in favor of Rhule and Judge. OC was a whole different ball game and since hiring Judge, Garrett being an option made a ton of sense - tons of experience, strong offensive production (especially with QB's who had limited skillsets), and very well respected throughout the league.
Problem right now is that there is little margin  
Simms11 : 9/22/2020 5:41 pm : link
for error. This team is not a well-oiled machine yet and lacks some critical play-makers. When we run the ball over, it’s going to be hard to overcome that with this team right now. I think JG will still play somewhat conservatively in an effort to get something going and give the offense confidence. If we can somehow win this game, then the team will gain some much needed confidence and feel like their hard work is paying off.
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