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Mekhi Becton

dslayton86 : 9/23/2020 1:15 am
Baldy Breakdown.

Andrew Thomas has been encouraging early on and looks like he will be at minimum a fine tackle for us for multiple years. But this Mekhi Becton.. I think it was clear he had the highest ceiling but would be a work in progress and also the biggest risk, but for him to look this good this early.. Wow.
And  
dslayton86 : 9/23/2020 1:20 am : link
here's a twitter thread showcasing the play of Jedrick Wills the Browns #10th overall pick:

https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1308473770194202628?s=20

And have also seen some Tristan Wirfs praise as well. Seems like all four rookie tackles with cases to go top 5 in April's draft are panning out thus far.
Impressive stuff  
montanagiant : 9/23/2020 1:27 am : link
And I love Baldy's breakdowns.
RE: Impressive stuff  
dslayton86 : 9/23/2020 1:38 am : link
In comment 14982104 montanagiant said:
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And I love Baldy's breakdowns.


Baldy is probably my favorite NFL Media person at the moment, these video breakdowns are phenomenal.
Becton was beaten a lot in game 2  
Stan in LA : 9/23/2020 1:38 am : link
And was simply OK in game 1.

Baldy rated him highest prior to the draft so he is simply confirming his prior take.

Thomas has been better.

Nothing to see here.
DAMN!  
OdellBeckhamJr : 9/23/2020 1:41 am : link
he looks great. good for the Jets. Honestly I would have flipped out if Gettleman took him just because of his similarities in Flowers (big, strong, but raw) but he looks like the real deal.

Also, The Big Ticket is a great nickname.
I could name a million reasons why social media  
CardinalX : 9/23/2020 5:23 am : link
Or just thg he internet in general are so interesting yet can ultimately be soooooo frustrating. This thread is a microcosm of it in a nutshell.

I opened it hoping I could get some really solid insight into one player's performance so far. Continued reading as I saw it was going to evolve into a conversation about our tackle as well as the other big name tackles in last year's draft.

And voila... I leave frustrated and disappointed as usual.

How can reviews of a player's performance be soooooo widely different?

I mean, was player A fantastic? Or was he horrible? Or was he just mehhh, average? Cause reading the responses here all of them could apply.

And... this generally applies to virtually any and almost every topic on the internet today.

It's like going to a grocery store and spending an hour in the dairy aisle because there are 85 kinds of cheese or 23 different yogurts.

Paralysis by analysis I guess. How much time in my life do i waste reading dozens of responses to a question and coming out no further informed at the other end? If there were only 3 cheeses in the dairy aisle I'd be over to vegetables in like 30 seconds. And probably feel 100x better about my decision.

Same way with reading topics on BBI. Or wasting an hour on Twitter or where ever!!!!

Ok. Got that out.

I need a disconnect from the internet. Seriously. This f'ing Covid sucks ASS.

Boomer out.
RE: I could name a million reasons why social media  
Rafflee : 9/23/2020 6:52 am : link
In comment 14982112 CardinalX said:
Quote:
Or just thg he internet in general are so interesting yet can ultimately be soooooo frustrating. This thread is a microcosm of it in a nutshell.

I opened it hoping I could get some really solid insight into one player's performance so far. Continued reading as I saw it was going to evolve into a conversation about our tackle as well as the other big name tackles in last year's draft.

And voila... I leave frustrated and disappointed as usual.

How can reviews of a player's performance be soooooo widely different?

I mean, was player A fantastic? Or was he horrible? Or was he just mehhh, average? Cause reading the responses here all of them could apply.

And... this generally applies to virtually any and almost every topic on the internet today.

It's like going to a grocery store and spending an hour in the dairy aisle because there are 85 kinds of cheese or 23 different yogurts.

Paralysis by analysis I guess. How much time in my life do i waste reading dozens of responses to a question and coming out no further informed at the other end? If there were only 3 cheeses in the dairy aisle I'd be over to vegetables in like 30 seconds. And probably feel 100x better about my decision.

Same way with reading topics on BBI. Or wasting an hour on Twitter or where ever!!!!

Ok. Got that out.

I need a disconnect from the internet. Seriously. This f'ing Covid sucks ASS.

Boomer out.


Learn to Play an Instrument!!!!!

https://youtu.be/v7kXKDDeMnE

RE: Becton was beaten a lot in game 2  
BlueLou'sBack : 9/23/2020 7:28 am : link
In comment 14982106 Stan in LA said:
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And was simply OK in game 1.

Baldy rated him highest prior to the draft so he is simply confirming his prior take.

Thomas has been better.

Nothing to see here.


Getting into the Becton vs Thomas vs Wirfs vs Wills debate misses the real take away point Stan.

Which in MY humble opinion is that ALL FOUR of the top OTs from the 2020 draft were viable top 10 picks.

Which in the view of pundits and draftnicks', somehow made their value at 4 overall questionable.

It like a classic commodities market devaluation. 4 top OTs, a rare occurrence in a single draft year, seemed to devalue all of them to the public eye and fomented raging debates on BBI.

But the NFL got it "right" and all 4 were drafted among the top 15 players.
RE: I could name a million reasons why social media  
dslayton86 : 9/23/2020 7:28 am : link
In comment 14982112 CardinalX said:
Quote:
Or just thg he internet in general are so interesting yet can ultimately be soooooo frustrating. This thread is a microcosm of it in a nutshell.

I opened it hoping I could get some really solid insight into one player's performance so far. Continued reading as I saw it was going to evolve into a conversation about our tackle as well as the other big name tackles in last year's draft.

And voila... I leave frustrated and disappointed as usual.

How can reviews of a player's performance be soooooo widely different?

I mean, was player A fantastic? Or was he horrible? Or was he just mehhh, average? Cause reading the responses here all of them could apply.

And... this generally applies to virtually any and almost every topic on the internet today.

It's like going to a grocery store and spending an hour in the dairy aisle because there are 85 kinds of cheese or 23 different yogurts.

Paralysis by analysis I guess. How much time in my life do i waste reading dozens of responses to a question and coming out no further informed at the other end? If there were only 3 cheeses in the dairy aisle I'd be over to vegetables in like 30 seconds. And probably feel 100x better about my decision.

Same way with reading topics on BBI. Or wasting an hour on Twitter or where ever!!!!

Ok. Got that out.

I need a disconnect from the internet. Seriously. This f'ing Covid sucks ASS.

Boomer out.


Hey bud, it was just a little clip that highlights some of the beatdown he was laying to potentially open up a discussion with more detailed analysis. Not to mention, it's 6 minutes long, and does a great job of highlighting the strong technique and skills that he has shown already (which was perhaps not immediately expected being as he was a project). I learned quite a bit about lineman play alone watching that clip.

What did you want from the OP? A detailed report of how well he's doing and why so? Sounds like something you might get at a subscription site (sign up for one then bud).

Nonetheless, here are some other links praising his early play (#1 ranked Offensive rookie on PFF through 2 weeks):

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1308410479312859138?s=20

https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1308388445446905861?s=20

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1307310978585911296?s=20

P.S. I'm not a scout

Lmao I stopped watching  
Tuckrule : 9/23/2020 7:32 am : link
Second play he’s praising becton bosa lifts becton into darnolds lap if he doesn’t get the ball out quickly he would have been hit. This is just seeing what you want to keep the narrative going that becton is great. Baldy was riding him pre draft and it continues. Bosa went down after 13 total plays. They lost half their d line in this game so he faced mostly backup players vs san Fran. I’d wager a lot of money that Mr. Thomas has a hell of a ball game this week along with the rest of our line. I’m not saying becton sucks but let’s relax about being best rookie let alone tackle. Thomas has faced. Watt, Dupree, Quinn and Mack. That’s a hell of a foursome.
Great rant Cardinal X.  
BlueLou'sBack : 9/23/2020 7:40 am : link
But there's a flip side to everything. I love food shopping because I'm a former chef, and know to cook a bit. Where I regularly shop (Giant Farmer's Market in Waldwick, NJ) there are probably over 100 types of cheese in 3-5 sections of the store, regularly.
And I don't mind spending 10 minutes or more searching through these cheese selections to find the "steals". Typically these are the ones the store's deli department has an overload of, and wants to move them. Or maybe deals the buyers found from the importers, because often they are imported cheeses.

High quality fresh Canadian goat cheese for $10 for a huge one kilo log???

When the sale price beats the normal price of goat cheese (over $10 per pound) by costing less than half as much, I'm all for the diversity and subsequent information overload.

Just my two cents, boomer to boomer.
Here is hoping all 4 play  
section125 : 9/23/2020 7:41 am : link
up to their teams expectations...
Without watching full games....we tend to compare others best  
George from PA : 9/23/2020 7:43 am : link
Plays....vs Thomas worse plays.

I can not compare all the tackles and in general it is tough even for PFF as the competition are different.

All i can say....I am pleased with Thomas and encouraged with the OL after their first 2 games....against very difficult defensive fronts.
RE: Without watching full games....we tend to compare others best  
dslayton86 : 9/23/2020 7:48 am : link
In comment 14982140 George from PA said:
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Plays....vs Thomas worse plays.

I can not compare all the tackles and in general it is tough even for PFF as the competition are different.

All i can say....I am pleased with Thomas and encouraged with the OL after their first 2 games....against very difficult defensive fronts.


And I certainly am as well. I really didn't intend for this thread to go down the path of Becton vs. Thomas also because it is FAR too early to tell. I'm very satisfied with the play of Thomas so far. Really moreso wanted to highlight that early results have this looking like an absolute stacked top end Tackle draft. Perhaps all 4 top tackles could be franchise players for years to come. I'm also just surprised that Becton looks as solid as he does (still early I know) since many pundits were weary of his skills immediately transferring.
RE: Becton was beaten a lot in game 2  
barens : 9/23/2020 8:30 am : link
In comment 14982106 Stan in LA said:
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And was simply OK in game 1.

Baldy rated him highest prior to the draft so he is simply confirming his prior take.

Thomas has been better.

Nothing to see here.


Stan, Thomas has been better? I watched a lot of the Jet game too, and there is nothing but truth to these breakdowns. Becton just moves people backwards. I don’t know how you can’t be impressed.

These guys aren’t finished products, but Thomas has not been better so far, not by a long shot.
good for Becton  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2020 8:38 am : link
he has a huge ceiling but the injury risk is very real at his size. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the big 4 from the draft all have good careers but I do question durability on human beings that size.
All being said Thomas is the least of our worries  
gtt350 : 9/23/2020 8:55 am : link
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Watched a good bit of the San Fran game  
chick310 : 9/23/2020 8:57 am : link
and thought Becton looked pretty good. Thomas has also looked good.

Who is the best rookie OT after two games sounds almost ridiculous to assess and concern yourself with. At least let the season play out and see where these guys are then.
This reminds me of the Eli, Rivers, Big Ben situation  
Heisenberg : 9/23/2020 9:05 am : link
Everyone had their favorites at the draft. They all ended up pretty fucking good. Same situation can apply here for these 4 tackles.
RE: I could name a million reasons why social media  
jhibb : 9/23/2020 9:18 am : link
In comment 14982112 CardinalX said:
Quote:
Or just thg he internet in general are so interesting yet can ultimately be soooooo frustrating. This thread is a microcosm of it in a nutshell.

I opened it hoping I could get some really solid insight into one player's performance so far. Continued reading as I saw it was going to evolve into a conversation about our tackle as well as the other big name tackles in last year's draft.

And voila... I leave frustrated and disappointed as usual.



Such a strange overreaction to a thread started in the middle of the night with all of four responses to the OP before this one.
Cardinal, why not just watch Baldinger's tweets?  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/23/2020 9:32 am : link
Why bother with posts from notorious zero-sum-game posters ("praising another player means my player sucks, so I will dump shit on the other player to make my player awesome!")?
RE: RE: I could name a million reasons why social media  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/23/2020 9:33 am : link
In comment 14982211 jhibb said:
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In comment 14982112 CardinalX said:


Quote:


Or just thg he internet in general are so interesting yet can ultimately be soooooo frustrating. This thread is a microcosm of it in a nutshell.

I opened it hoping I could get some really solid insight into one player's performance so far. Continued reading as I saw it was going to evolve into a conversation about our tackle as well as the other big name tackles in last year's draft.

And voila... I leave frustrated and disappointed as usual.





Such a strange overreaction to a thread started in the middle of the night with all of four responses to the OP before this one.


Word. If a post from Stan in LA makes you want to quit the internet then you need to get some perspective.
Thomas is fine  
Joey in VA : 9/23/2020 10:05 am : link
Becton has the chance to be a weapon on the OL, he's simply a freak of nature.
The Jets suck, and so does everyone who plays for the Jets  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2020 10:07 am : link
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Yeah, this was a middle of the night over reaction  
CardinalX : 9/23/2020 10:08 am : link
To a small symptom of an overall problem.

Like stepping on a child's Lego toy with barefeet in the middle of the night and then going on a murderous romp and slaying not only your kids but all the other kids in the neighborhood that leave their toys out or make a constant din of inescapable noise because you live a block from a school playground.

[no children were harmed in response to this thread]
And the 100 cheese reference.  
CardinalX : 9/23/2020 10:10 am : link
I'm all for 100 kinds of cheese when I'm in the mood for 100 cheese browsing.

But when I'm in my normal grocery store and it's a 100 option browsing for everything from tuna fish to toilet paper to cheese... a 30 minute trip can easily turn to 3 hours.
anything to remember...  
Amtoft : 9/23/2020 10:24 am : link
Becton will need to maintain that high weight for his whole career. That was also a concern for him along with the wear and tear that weight carries. To me long term I feel better about Andrew Thomas.
lol  
djm : 9/23/2020 10:27 am : link
and so it begins. Didn't take long!

Becton next Jonathan Ogden ?  
Manny in CA : 9/23/2020 12:52 pm : link

Becton - 6'7", 364; Ogden - 6'9", 365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzDeN_BlFo

With good coaching and a lot of hard work, good chance he could be,
I recall whispers  
Now Mike in MD : 9/23/2020 1:14 pm : link
around draft time of a back issue for him. I think Sy even referred to it. If true, might've scared Giants off
The guy looks superhuman out there  
rasbutant : 9/23/2020 1:42 pm : link
Very impressive.


You saw it on his college tape also, he is a highlight machine at the tackle position. My worry was all the plays in between the highlights. But sounds like he is having more highlights than lowlights at this point. So good for him.
RE: I recall whispers  
Stan in LA : 9/23/2020 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14982538 Now Mike in MD said:
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around draft time of a back issue for him. I think Sy even referred to it. If true, might've scared Giants off

Yes, back issues, weight issues and work ethic issues. Long term, Thomas is a much better bet.
RE: Becton next Jonathan Ogden ?  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2020 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14982520 Manny in CA said:
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Becton - 6'7", 364; Ogden - 6'9", 365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzDeN_BlFo

With good coaching and a lot of hard work, good chance he could be,


His ceiling is certainly sky high. I can't remember many that size having long careers like Ogden. Becton has a good 30-40 pounds on guys like Roaf, Allen, Pace, Walter Jones, Joe Thomas, etc. Even Ogden is listed at 345 most places.

We will see.
I was never worried about  
allstarjim : 9/23/2020 5:10 pm : link
Becton as a run blocker, but more as a pass protector. I think Thomas at this point is more of a complete tackle at this juncture, and Thomas certainly moves people in the run game as well.

The guy I loved was Wills because I believe his feet and technique are so polished, but I don't have any complaints.

That said, if we had gone with the guy I really wanted at our pick, Isaiah Simmons, we'd certainly be hurting right now on the OL.
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