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Giants In No-Win Situation This Week

LTIsTheGreatest : 9/23/2020 9:58 am
If they win, it'll be because the 49ers were decimated and had half their team out. If they lose, they'll get crucified because they couldn't beat a 49er team which was basically playing most of their 2nd and 3rd stringers. Still, I'll take a victory anyway they can get it
A win..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/23/2020 10:00 am : link
is a win and keeps them at maximum one game out of 1st place. You take that any day of the week and don't worry about what the rest of the talking heads say about it
I  
dslayton86 : 9/23/2020 10:01 am : link
would say its more like a Win-Loss situation. If they win it goes in the win column. If they lose it goes in the loss column. They could tie too though.
Huh?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2020 10:01 am : link
Just win. There are no excuses in the NFL. No one cares if the other team is banged up, yet the 'I wanna play them fully healthy!' BBI contingent which usually says that tongue in cheek.
We all know betting odds are Vegas driven,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/23/2020 10:02 am : link
but still, many here cling to them. Thus, we’re 4 1/2 point underdogs, so a win would NOT be tainted
I don't care  
uther99 : 9/23/2020 10:02 am : link
if the 49ers get lost on the way to the stadium and forfeit. Giants need wins in any fashion
just get a win  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2020 10:05 am : link
because at Rams and at Dallas don't seem promising at the moment. The schedule never lets up this year.
Obviously  
Jay on the Island : 9/23/2020 10:11 am : link
if the Giants beat SF at full strength we would be feeling very good about this team for at least a week.

If they win against SF Sunday it is still an important win and won't matter any differently in the standings. At this point I would be happy with a win over the Bengals. In the NFL it is often not about who you play but when you play them.
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christian : 9/23/2020 10:19 am : link
There's nothing no-win about winning in week 3.

The Giants should have two primary objectives that hopefully intersect mid season:

1) Tread water in a pretty bad division and hope to be in striking distance of getting in the tournament

2) Build up the competencies of key units manned by a lot of younger guys to compete at the NFL level (OL & secondary)

If the Giants get to midpoint, and both those are on-track, you fight like hell to get scratch out every game. If they aren't, it's perfectly reasonable to spend the rest of the season on player development and analysis.
This is what is so horrible about the football following these days...  
Chris684 : 9/23/2020 10:20 am : link
Now wins are to be measured?

We are playing with a new coach and second year QB (in his second pro offense) after a virtual offseason and no preseason and without 2 of our top 3 or 4 offensive weapons against a team that has its own injuries but went to the Super Bowl last year with many of the same people.

A win here would be a big deal. They all are.
wrong  
djm : 9/23/2020 10:24 am : link
only idiots disparage wins.

We need to win ugly again and have people saying the team is overrated. I would kill for those days.
this is just further proof  
djm : 9/23/2020 10:25 am : link
that people analyze everything.

Wins = good
losses = bad

Thanks.
a win is a win and as beat up as SF is they destroyed the nyj  
Eric on Li : 9/23/2020 10:28 am : link
they entered the game without Kittle/Sherman/Ford/Deebo, Bosa went out in the 1st Q, Mostert/Garapolo only played the first half, any week Daniel Jones can lead this team to a victory is a good one right now. Against a team that won by almost 20 in Metlife 7 days ago is no different.
Wahh?  
Mike from SI : 9/23/2020 10:29 am : link
I'm one of the most bearish people on this boards and I want a win. Wins are wins!
The Giants have been in a No Win situation for years  
John In CO : 9/23/2020 10:29 am : link
Kind of have become accustomed to it at this point.
You play to win the game.  
Giant John : 9/23/2020 10:32 am : link
That’s it.
Young team with rookie head coach  
Biteymax22 : 9/23/2020 10:35 am : link
Any win is a good win. Part of the process of becoming a better team is learning to win, and specifically learning to win games you should.

If we beat a decimated SF team this week because we actually have more talent on the field (not a given) than so be it.
Just win  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/23/2020 10:39 am : link
the scary part is that they lose to this decimated team.
No style points  
PEEJ : 9/23/2020 10:40 am : link
in the standings
Lol dave rothenburgh  
nygiants16 : 9/23/2020 10:51 am : link
just said it doesnt matter if the Giants win this week, season is already over, they are not competitive..
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arcarsenal : 9/23/2020 10:52 am : link
If you go back and look at most championship teams, you'll come to find that they accrued a few wins against teams in the position SF is in right now.

The Giants should never need to apologize for winning a football game. We have enough of our own problems and we just just our best offensive weapon.

A win is a win - if we're fortunate enough to come away with one, it's a win. That's it.
We'll take any win no matter how it comes  
LBH15 : 9/23/2020 11:01 am : link
In fact, a bunch of the Giants 12 wins in the last three seasons have come against backup QBs.

Its our sweet-spot.
The Giants are 12-38 in their last 40 games..  
Sean : 9/23/2020 11:02 am : link
Any win is a good win at this point.
the standings don't care about injuries  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2020 11:08 am : link
a win is a win. I couldn't care less about what the media will say about it, or other Giants fans.
RE: Lol dave rothenburgh  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2020 11:10 am : link
In comment 14982387 nygiants16 said:
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just said it doesnt matter if the Giants win this week, season is already over, they are not competitive..


Well the season might be over, but not being competitive is complete bullshit. Radio host doing what he can to get callers I guess, or he's just a moron.
At this point I don't care if they beat a girls basketball team.  
larryflower37 : 9/23/2020 11:11 am : link
Fuck perspective.
This team needs wins and as many as possible.
RE: Huh?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2020 11:12 am : link
In comment 14982264 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Just win. There are no excuses in the NFL. No one cares if the other team is banged up, yet the 'I wanna play them fully healthy!' BBI contingent which usually says that tongue in cheek.
Accidental post.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2020 11:13 am : link
But the "i wanna beat them at full strength" take is the absolute worst.
Ha yeah screw that  
Johnny5 : 9/23/2020 11:27 am : link
I don't care why they win just win a G*d*mn game already... lol
what?  
BillyM : 9/23/2020 12:02 pm : link
Um no. You take wins in the NFL any way you can get em. Last I checked we lost our best player for the year. And probably our third best offensive play maker.

Pardon my language,  
j_rud : 9/23/2020 12:03 pm : link
but fuuuuuck that. Get the win.
RE: I  
Gregorio : 9/23/2020 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14982263 dslayton86 said:
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would say its more like a Win-Loss situation. If they win it goes in the win column. If they lose it goes in the loss column. They could tie too though.


Nah, this reasoning makes too much sense. Can't be this simple, it just can't.
A win against a decimated team doesn't count.  
TheEvilLurker : 9/23/2020 12:54 pm : link
Only wins against that team's best all time players at their prime counts.
Yup  
Spider43 : 9/23/2020 1:01 pm : link
Just win, baby.
Don't discount this 9ers team....  
Simms11 : 9/23/2020 1:03 pm : link
There's still plenty of talent even with those others out. They can still run the ball and pass. They still have Jerrick McKinnon in the backfield, Sanu at WR and possibly Kittle coming back. Mullens played well when given the chance and their D still has a pretty good front 7, even without Bosa and Solomons. You cannot overlook this team and if the Giants win, it won't be looked at a win because the 9ers were injured. The Giants will have to be better this week to win and they're also without Barkley and Shep now too.
The Giants are 12-38 in their last 50  
ShockNRoll : 9/23/2020 2:05 pm : link
are we really in a position to decide what wins are deserved or not? If this team beats my local high school (who did win the state championship last year), I'll take it. Teams have been beating up on the Giants with their record setting injury numbers every year and they don't feel too bad about it. It's a league where you have to win. The Niners, even with their injuries, are still a better team than the Giants. If the Giants can pull off a win, it will be impressive regardless, but it is not as if it's coming against a nobody.
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christian : 9/23/2020 4:19 pm : link
If the young guys develop quickly and the Giants hit a groove later in the year, playing .500 ball in November isn’t out of the realm of possibilities.

And if the Giants don’t get in the tournament because they lost an early season game to a completely decimated SF team, that would suck.
I think it’s pretty simple  
M.S. : 9/23/2020 4:30 pm : link

If we beat the 49ers (big if), we are in a win-situation.

If we lose to the 49ers, we are in a lose-situation.

It’s bi-modal, and there are no other options, unless you want to consider a tie.
Sanu has had a fork in his back for two years.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2020 4:32 pm : link
This Giants team could lose to anyone, but it won't be because of Sanu breaking the game.
uh, no  
Victor in CT : 9/23/2020 4:35 pm : link
there's no such thing as a tainted win for the Giants. Take it and be happy
Who cares how much credit they get?  
Section331 : 9/23/2020 4:37 pm : link
I'll take a win and be thrilled with it.
I just watched the Judge break down  
sec308 : 9/23/2020 9:33 pm : link
of game film, and I'm beginning to think the Niners are ripe this weekend. The've been on the east coast since before the Jets game, they injured beyond belief, they have the super bowl hangover, and I never heard of the quaerterback whose starting. I wouldn't bet on it but maybe by Sunday I will.
If Wayne Gallman suits up and carries the rock 20+ times  
BlueLou'sBack : 9/24/2020 1:40 am : link
for 80+ yards, and more than that he runs like he's "angry at the grass" and pass blocks like the Great Wall of China,

I'll be fooking thrilled that I had this guy figured out all wrong.

And he should, his next contract (surely not with the Giants) hinges on it.
I don't think  
santacruzom : 9/24/2020 2:24 am : link
you will find many people discrediting a win the week following the game. It just seldom happens that way.

Now, if we finish 5-11 and Gettleman is pointing to beating the defending NFC Champs as evidence of that the team has improved like he and Shurmur did following 2018, we'll see a different perspective.
Absolutely no excuse not to win this game  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/24/2020 3:36 am : link
None
Win  
stretch234 : 9/24/2020 7:39 am : link
There are no apologies in professional sports for winning any game. Just win the game. 1-2 is better than 0-3 Winning still beats losing
This makes no sense...  
EricJ : 9/24/2020 7:43 am : link
The Giants have been bottom feeders (for the most part) for the past 8-9 years. All of the teams who beat them do not have an asterisk next to those victories.
RE: I just watched the Judge break down  
ron mexico : 9/24/2020 8:04 am : link
In comment 14982858 sec308 said:
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of game film, and I'm beginning to think the Niners are ripe this weekend. The've been on the east coast since before the Jets game, they injured beyond belief, they have the super bowl hangover, and I never heard of the quaerterback whose starting. I wouldn't bet on it but maybe by Sunday I will.


Didn’t we play this qb a few years ago when JG went down?
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