Tyrod Taylor had lung punctured by doctor

Chargers have had an equal amount of injury luck as we have throughout the years, but how the hell does this happen?

I don't like to see people lose their jobs, but I'm sorry that doctor needs to go.


Can you imagine how big a deal this would be if it was a playoff game and it was a star QB like a Russell Wilson or Lamar Jackson instead of Tyrod Taylor? Right before the game? The gambling world would go crazy and this doctor would literally have to worry about his safety and possibly be questioned by authorities.

Just UFB.

he'll be able to get a position with the Washington Football Team!!

According to Johns Hopkins. Third leading cause of death in America. That means on any given day, on average, medical personnel will accidentally kill nearly 700 people. My dad was in the ICU for 3 weeks a few years back because of a stupid, lazy mistake during an arthroscopy.

In comment 14982497 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Just UFB.

break his ribs?

couldnt Taylor sit still for just one goddamn minute?

Good luck

Justin Herbert is better than Tyrod Taylor

I pass by people going to work and going to lunch and leaving for home from the hospital next door. Large groups of closely linked people in dirty scrubs and no masks.

In comment 14982536 Bill L said:

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I pass by people going to work and going to lunch and leaving for home from the hospital next door. Large groups of closely linked people in dirty scrubs and no masks.

That is a peeve of mine. Presumably they are wearing scrubs to protect themselves from something from patients, or protect patients from themselves, but either way the public shouldn't be in the loop.

I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too

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According to Johns Hopkins. Third leading cause of death in America. That means on any given day, on average, medical personnel will accidentally kill nearly 700 people. My dad was in the ICU for 3 weeks a few years back because of a stupid, lazy mistake during an arthroscopy.

This is one of the biggest reasons I never wanted to be a doctor.

In comment 14982599 Bob from Massachusetts said:

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I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too

Did you go to the Ivan Drago school of medicine?
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The brutal, gladiator like ugly underbelly of pro football, with the needles, drugs, “shoot em up” mentality caused the nfl not to participate in its making. Think about just how large a needle it would take to jab into a lung, and render puncture damage, then consider taylor then be willing to take that shot, go out on the field and have his injured ribs go through car accident like collisions......Pro football.....

In comment 14982608 BestFeature said:

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In comment 14982599 Bob from Massachusetts said: Quote: I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too Did you go to the Ivan Drago school of medicine? If he dies, he dies - ( New Window )

ROFL! No link was necessary.

Seriously, what this doctor shooting him up with ? Cortisone ? Isn't that dangerous right before a game ?

In comment 14982599 Bob from Massachusetts said:

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I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too

Saying "sh-t happens, I'm a human being" isn't exactly owning up to it, is it?

so many lawyer wanna bees hanging around. Xylocaine or other local anesthetic injection for pain relief from broken ribs accepted medical treatment. Risk of injection is pneumothorax. Get off your stupid horses. Bob said it right but the comments here are so typical of misfits who rather drink than help people.

Now I must say playing football with broken ribs is pretty risky, most players would be kept out but none of us know how many ribs were broken, when they were broken, etc.

So just recognize that pneumothorax happens when you put needles near pleural space. It’s a risk.

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According to Johns Hopkins. Third leading cause of death in America. That means on any given day, on average, medical personnel will accidentally kill nearly 700 people. My dad was in the ICU for 3 weeks a few years back because of a stupid, lazy mistake during an arthroscopy.

Thanks for reminding me of one of the few good reasons to live in the nyc tri state area. They make mistakes here too but I’d think it’s still the best for medical care. Those are staggering numbers.

attempting to play with broken ribs? Can you imagine Bosa smashing him into the ground on the broken rib side? He could shatter them and then get a real punctured lung and bleed out..

infections. Two items often very dirty, doctors lab coat and his steth.

get a shot in his leg where the doctor missed, numbed his whole leg or something like that and he missed an important playoff game?

If you've never had to explain to a patient's family about a complication on a procedure that you did, I suggest you be careful about your judgments. When you do these procedures, you have to accept the fact that things can go wrong even if you're very talented and you do everything right. I have gone over cases in my mind a million times to see if I would do anything different if I had to do it over again. Pretty much always I can say I wouldn't.

But if I look back over a 20-year career in clinical medicine, the irony is that on many occasions I did do something wrong and I was lucky that nothing bad happened. I think it's one of the reasons that I have decided I believe in G-d. What I can tell you is, it ain't that simple and if you think it is, you shouldn't be doing it.

In comment 14982608 BestFeature said:

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In comment 14982599 Bob from Massachusetts said: Quote: I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too Did you go to the Ivan Drago school of medicine? If he dies, he dies - ( New Window )

In comment 14982599 Bob from Massachusetts said:

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I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too

Bob, spot on as usual..

In comment 14982753 Bob from Massachusetts said:

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If you've never had to explain to a patient's family about a complication on a procedure that you did, I suggest you be careful about your judgments. When you do these procedures, you have to accept the fact that things can go wrong even if you're very talented and you do everything right. I have gone over cases in my mind a million times to see if I would do anything different if I had to do it over again. Pretty much always I can say I wouldn't. But if I look back over a 20-year career in clinical medicine, the irony is that on many occasions I did do something wrong and I was lucky that nothing bad happened. I think it's one of the reasons that I have decided I believe in G-d. What I can tell you is, it ain't that simple and if you think it is, you shouldn't be doing it. In comment 14982608 BestFeature said: Quote: In comment 14982599 Bob from Massachusetts said: Quote: I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too Did you go to the Ivan Drago school of medicine? If he dies, he dies - ( New Window )

I was busting your balls but "shit happens" is not something I want to hear from a doctor ever when there's a complication.

Thx Bruce. I hope you're doing well.

In comment 14982755 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 14982599 Bob from Massachusetts said: Quote: I'm a doctor who did a lot of invasive procedures. They all have serious risk and you need to present the risks and benefits to the patient and why you think the benefits justify the risks. If something goes wrong, so be it. It certainly isn't malpractice unless the patient wasn't adequately informed of the risks or something that really should not have gone wrong did, which might or might not have been the case here. A needle is needed here, and the ribs are awfully close to the lungs/lung cavity. I have no idea if something inappropriate happened. So it could have been malpractice, but sh-t happens, and if it does, best to own up to it. Doctor are human beings, too Bob, spot on as usual..

don't bother, you're just wasting your breath. I've done 10,000 cases or more as an orthopedist over 37 years (and never been litigated). The people on this board couldn't understand the expertise and daily pressure your job requires if it hit them with a brick. A lot of ignorant yahoos all with moronic opinions and no gravitas to them. SMH

In comment 14982762 rmc3981 said:

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don't bother, you're just wasting your breath. I've done 10,000 cases or more as an orthopedist over 37 years (and never been litigated). The people on this board couldn't understand the expertise and daily pressure your job requires if it hit them with a brick. A lot of ignorant yahoos all with moronic opinions and no gravitas to them. SMH

I don't think anyone was hammering doctors, only stating that mistakes are common. Some are the result of incredibly difficult procedures being performed my whst are surely incredibly smart and talented individuals. Others are the result of a moron doing moron shit.

In any case, your post is a wonderful example of why a lot of people generalize doctors as smug pricks.

Apologies. Have a good night.

most recently Dr. David Chao. He's been since let go to peddle his bullshit for PFF, but with the actions of him and some of his predecessors, I think it is a legitimate question to ask regarding the competency of the Chargers team doctors.

BTW the link below outlines some of Chao's misdeeds. How he still has a medical license is beyond me.
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so many lawyer wanna bees hanging around. Xylocaine or other local anesthetic injection for pain relief from broken ribs accepted medical treatment. Risk of injection is pneumothorax. Get off your stupid horses. Bob said it right but the comments here are so typical of misfits who rather drink than help people. Now I must say playing football with broken ribs is pretty risky, most players would be kept out but none of us know how many ribs were broken, when they were broken, etc. So just recognize that pneumothorax happens when you put needles near pleural space. It’s a risk.

Xylocaine ? That's what I get for a root canal. Isn't that just as dangerous ? He could smash the rest of his ribs in the first quarter, maybe even puncture a lung and he wouldn't even know it.

For the Doctors here: I understand the use of Xylocaine prior to a medical procedure and I understand that sometimes shit happens. Is it accepted medical practice to numb someone with Xylocaine and then send him out to play football ?

I'd assume a professional football team's team physician would be an orthopedist and this wouldn't be within his scope of practice. It needs to be done under fluoroscopy or ultrasound.

Intercostal nerve blocks for broken ribs wouldn't be something I'd consider lightly, but I guess under the circumstances it'd be the appropriate but awfully risky procedure to consider.