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Fire Dave Gettleman.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/27/2020 3:37 pm
This team is so fucking devoid of talent...it is embarrassing. Getting our asses kicked by a team putting out backups.

Hire someone outside of the 'Giants family' who can give a clear & honest assessment of what is broken & how to fix it.

Sadly Mara can't be fired so we will have to settle for DG.

I am sick of watching this garbage year after year. It is becoming a waste of time.
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12-39 since he was hired..  
Sean : 9/27/2020 3:40 pm : link
in a league where it is built to go last to first.

He’s gotta go. This team is worse than they were in 2017. Not only has he failed at the job, he’s been a punching line in the media from his press conferences.

He’s gotta go.
Not sure  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/27/2020 3:40 pm : link
that will make much difference. His hand-picked assistant GM will take over for him.
100%  
Justlurking : 9/27/2020 3:40 pm : link
we need to fly a fucking plane over the stadium. i have $100 towards it. who knows how to do it.
It’s coming  
jeff57 : 9/27/2020 3:40 pm : link
But won’t matter unless they bring in someone from out of the organization.
Someone needs to fly a plane over the stadium  
Sean : 9/27/2020 3:41 pm : link
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RE: Not sure  
mphbullet36 : 9/27/2020 3:42 pm : link
In comment 14986300 Eric from BBI said:
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that will make much difference. His hand-picked assistant GM will take over for him.


they seriously can't sell that to the fan base
mphbullet36  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/27/2020 3:43 pm : link
Why do they have to see anything to the fan base?

They already have your money.
RE: Someone needs to fly a plane over the stadium  
Justlurking : 9/27/2020 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14986317 Sean said:
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its the only thing that resonates with the maras
You  
AcidTest : 9/27/2020 3:43 pm : link
could certainly make that case.
RE: Not sure  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/27/2020 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14986300 Eric from BBI said:
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that will make much difference. His hand-picked assistant GM will take over for him.


That is Mara giving the finger to us. But he is clueless & probably doesn't care. James Dolan 2.0.
Fire Everyone  
WillVAB : 9/27/2020 3:44 pm : link
Judge included. Start over from the top and take Trevor Lawrence.
I'll admit too now  
Harvest Blend : 9/27/2020 3:45 pm : link
that DG has been a failure but nothing is going to change with Mara at the top.
we have a large contingent  
MookGiants : 9/27/2020 3:45 pm : link
on here who actually like what gettleman has done.

He should never have been hired, and he absolutely should have been fired last off-season.

3rd year int he league and this roster is the biggest mess in the entire sport.
When Gettleman took over as GM  
bceagle05 : 9/27/2020 3:45 pm : link
the Niners were as bad as the Giants.
RE: mphbullet36  
mphbullet36 : 9/27/2020 3:45 pm : link
In comment 14986324 Eric from BBI said:
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Why do they have to see anything to the fan base?

They already have your money.


I simply can't believe that. They can't be that clueless and out of touch that they need to clean house in that department. The 49ers have half there team hurt and have more talent then us.
What  
BigBlueinDE : 9/27/2020 3:46 pm : link
Good will it do now?
RE: When Gettleman took over as GM  
Danny Kanell : 9/27/2020 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14986351 bceagle05 said:
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the Niners were as bad as the Giants.


I thought about that earlier. Unbelievable.
Can’t believe he wasn’t fired  
Metnut : 9/27/2020 3:47 pm : link
after last year. The long list of blunders and awful football makes it baffling that he was retained.

What did Gettleman do to earn the right to pick a second coach?
mphbullet36  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/27/2020 3:47 pm : link
Have you followed the team for the last decade?

They are THAT clueless.
The problem is ownership  
eugibs : 9/27/2020 3:47 pm : link
A normal, functioning organization does not bring back Dave Gettleman this season. The writing was already on the wall to any fair-minded person that he had taken over a bad situation and managed to make it worse and more hopeless. I knew it was bad when John Mara sounded like a BBI homer in his quotes the last two odd seasons complaining about the media and “negativity” around the organization. Easier to believe in a conspiracy against you rather than have to face your own failure. But the results are what they are at this point and there is no spinning that.

5 first round draft picks the past three seasons, including 3 in the top 6 picks and what do they have to show for it at this point? The team is worse than ever. What a shame.
RE: Not sure  
jeff57 : 9/27/2020 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14986300 Eric from BBI said:
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that will make much difference. His hand-picked assistant GM will take over for him.


Then they’re doomed to another 5 years of top 10 picks.
He should have been gone with Shurmur  
RUNYG : 9/27/2020 3:48 pm : link
How do you not completely clean house?!!

Now this dumbass franchise will fire him and hire a GM not tied to the current HC which is always a sticky situation.
Putting Dolan on the same sentence as Mara is bullshit..  
Sean : 9/27/2020 3:49 pm : link
you are better than that SFGF. As much of a train wreck the Giants are, I’ve experienced two Super Bowl titles rooting for them.
Three  
lax counsel : 9/27/2020 3:51 pm : link
Premium picks and the offense looks as bad as ever. His one saving grace looked to be DJ, but at the moment he looks like more of a bottom half of the league starter of backup than a legit franchise qb.

The entire organization is a mess. Gettlemen is just a symptom of that mess. He should have been no where near this job. Not sure his firing will do much as you know the Giants brass will continue to make the wrong hires.
RE: Not sure  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/27/2020 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14986300 Eric from BBI said:
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that will make much difference. His hand-picked assistant GM will take over for him.


This is 100 percent Joe Judges show moving forward. Whoever is GM will be in name only. I feel as if DG is GM in name only right now. He's gone after the season unless this team turns it up on back half of year.

I don't think its apparent to people that aren't diehards but this team has shaken things up that are pretty unprecedented. I'm completely confident with the backing of Judge. I get why they took a risk on the guy. He just exudes competence and watching the Pats game side to side, its just apparent the little detail stuff they get right Judge does as well.
RE: Putting Dolan on the same sentence as Mara is bullshit..  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/27/2020 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14986398 Sean said:
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you are better than that SFGF. As much of a train wreck the Giants are, I’ve experienced two Super Bowl titles rooting for them.


Sean, true. Dolan is in his own league. But Mara & this organization has been a clown show for far too long.
RE: RE: Putting Dolan on the same sentence as Mara is bullshit..  
bubba0825 : 9/27/2020 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14986411 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14986398 Sean said:


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you are better than that SFGF. As much of a train wreck the Giants are, I’ve experienced two Super Bowl titles rooting for them.



Sean, true. Dolan is in his own league. But Mara & this organization has been a clown show for far too long.


At least Dolan was able to control 2 pro franchises and not have to sell half of one
Not sure  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/27/2020 3:53 pm : link
How that is helpful
For this team  
GiantGrit : 9/27/2020 3:55 pm : link
To continuously play without toughness, without basic acumen to pick up assignments i.e. stunts and what not all while hiring new coaches.....

Any time an organization in any field performs poorly for 10 years it really has to start up top. I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors but its the same aura behind the team year in year out.

I'm a younger fan so i didn't live through the 70's but this is seriously rock bottom, there is no doubt they are the worst franchise in the NFL right now (Argument made for the Jets but WOW is that poor company)

Seems like the organization lacks accountability as a whole. Need to gut the rotten foundation. Steelers family run organization we are not.

Nothing short of hearing John Mara flat out admit "i am apart of the problem and i am getting out of the way" will make me have any confidence this gets sorted out.

Starting Nick Gates at center is a total joke. Joke. Absolutely no excuse for this organization to continuously ignore that position. They have no depth on offense - they don't get my sympathy for that. Barkley, Shep and Engram are always hurt you had to have backups behind them.

And i was a Gettleman apologist. I fully admit that. But no excuse for this team to still have such a lack of talent.

Whooo-weeeee, does this organization stink to high heaven  
Greg from LI : 9/27/2020 3:56 pm : link
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Dave needs to retire...  
GFAN52 : 9/27/2020 3:57 pm : link
save Mara firing him.
RE: mphbullet36  
Enzo : 9/27/2020 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14986373 Eric from BBI said:
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Have you followed the team for the last decade?

They are THAT clueless.

but what about COLOMBO!
The facts on Gettleman speak for themselves  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/27/2020 3:57 pm : link
The entire Odell fiasco, signing him, the public statement and then trading him and the return on the trade (Zeitler and Peppers).

Offensive line investment and return is a big negative (Solder, Hernandez, Zeitler, etc.)

1st round pick ROI right now is a negative with the exception of Lawrence. One could say argue they needed Allen more than Jones.

The Leonard Williams fiasco.

Dare we say Francesa was right?
RE: Dave needs to retire...  
bubba0825 : 9/27/2020 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14986460 GFAN52 said:
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save Mara firing him.


I say no, that would mean Abrams has a change to hang around collecting a paycheck, they need to fire everyone 4 years of half measures have screwed us
RE: RE: Dave needs to retire...  
bubba0825 : 9/27/2020 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14986475 bubba0825 said:
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In comment 14986460 GFAN52 said:


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save Mara firing him.



I say no, that would mean Abrams has a change to hang around collecting a paycheck, they need to fire everyone 4 years of half measures have screwed us
. I mean fire Gettleman don’t give him cover to retire
RE: Not sure  
trueblueinpw : 9/27/2020 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14986300 Eric from BBI said:
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that will make much difference. His hand-picked assistant GM will take over for him.


Your right, but sooner we Abrams installed the sooner he can flame out. Either way, we’re in the toilet for at least another 5 years.
Yup  
Spider43 : 9/27/2020 4:16 pm : link
He should have been out with Shurmur. But my panties aren't in a bunch right now because I know he's out at the end of the season. Three years too late, but better late than never.
Looks like that revamped...  
bw in dc : 9/27/2020 4:19 pm : link
scouting and grading system that Mara praised late last year isn't quite what John thought it was...
So Reese >>>> DG  
Gmen703 : 9/27/2020 4:21 pm : link
asking for a friend...
RE: we have a large contingent  
aimrocky : 9/27/2020 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14986349 MookGiants said:
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on here who actually like what gettleman has done.

He should never have been hired, and he absolutely should have been fired last off-season.

3rd year int he league and this roster is the biggest mess in the entire sport.


Mook, your opinion is valued but who the fuck cares what the BBI opinion is if Gettleman. You’re right, though. Get him out of here.
Accorsi needs to be removed...  
bw in dc : 9/27/2020 4:26 pm : link
from the ring of honor.

He's the jackass who recommended and basically hired Gettleman.

One of the THE WORST decisions in franchise history.
BINGO!  
Josh in MD : 9/27/2020 4:47 pm : link
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Nothing short of hearing John Mara flat out admit "i am apart of the problem and i am getting out of the way" will make me have any confidence this gets sorted out.


All the hate toward DG is misplaced, in my opinion. Mara is an imbecile. DG was his guy, but so was Reese. He insists on a voice in football decisions that he is woefully incapable of making. We had more than a decade of horrible football until his idiot father got out of the way. And this won't be fixed until John gets out of the way.
It's about damn time the consensus finally arrived  
Go Terps : 9/27/2020 4:53 pm : link
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Mara is very fortunate...  
bw in dc : 9/27/2020 4:55 pm : link
there are no fans allowed to attend the games.

RE: Not sure  
prdave73 : 9/27/2020 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14986300 Eric from BBI said:
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that will make much difference. His hand-picked assistant GM will take over for him.


There lies the problem.. This organization needs to stop hiring their brothers, sisters, cousins, Best Friends, etc.. Stop this bullshit and hire some outside quality already!
RE: It’s coming  
cpgiants : 9/27/2020 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14986304 jeff57 said:
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But won’t matter unless they bring in someone from out of the organization.


Flying a plane over an empty stadium would be peak Giants.

Im in, i guess....
He needs to go  
UberAlias : 9/27/2020 5:31 pm : link
Seriously. Enough is enough.
The ownership sucks  
uconngiant : 9/27/2020 5:32 pm : link
They need to get rid of Gettleman and change the entire scouting staff. They are terrible and you can see it with the lack of talent on the field.

Time to wear a bag on my head
Yes not enough is mentioned  
Giants86 : 9/27/2020 5:37 pm : link
About our lousy scouts. We are so talent deficient. The Niners have better backups then we do starters....
the Jones pick  
Producer : 9/27/2020 5:38 pm : link
is not working out. This is 2020. Not 1985. You need a star QB to guarantee perennial contention. That's not Jones.

The number 6 pick was squandered. That was DG's call. He could have had Tua this season.

That alone is a firing offense.
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