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New York Giants vs. San Francisco 49er Post-Game Discussion

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/27/2020 3:51 pm
This will be fun...

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We've  
AcidTest : 9/27/2020 4:13 pm : link
time warped to the 1970s.

Dexter Lawrence is the best player on the team right now. We can't move the ball at all. We also can't cover slants, or generate any edge pressure.
RE: No need to ban fans  
BlueVinnie : 9/27/2020 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14986560 Giant4Life said:
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I don't think they'd come anyway.

LOL!!!
I was waiting for the guy that was controlling the canned crowd noise to start hitting his "boo" button.
Brutal loss. Jones did play better last season. The whole offense  
Ira : 9/27/2020 4:15 pm : link
played better.
Theres no excuse for this loss  
WillVAB : 9/27/2020 4:15 pm : link
And especially in the fashion they lost. This needs to be blown up. Again.
The suck mobile  
Big Daddy : 9/27/2020 4:16 pm : link
They suck that’s it
2020  
broadbandz : 9/27/2020 4:16 pm : link
draft was deep with wr and we didnt draft 1. instead a bunch of linebackers who dont play.
I said during the week...  
bw in dc : 9/27/2020 4:16 pm : link
make Mullens beat us.

Guy threw for 343 with a back-up TE, back-up RB, and a slew of #2 (at best) WRs. No INTs and completing 70% of his passes.

Just unbelievable...
When can we fire up this year’s Belichick rumors?  
bceagle05 : 9/27/2020 4:20 pm : link
Team president! He loves Joe Judge!
RE: RE: RE: Will the Giants  
Harvest Blend : 9/27/2020 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14986557 RDJR said:
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In comment 14986490 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 14986457 Harvest Blend said:


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be smart enough to draft Lawrence or too stubborn?

That's pretty much a rhetorical question btw.



Nope. And this is why missing on a QB sets your franchise back. They will not draft another QB. They will say "covid-19, no preseason, new coach, new offense. Let's give him one more year". This franchise loves Daniel Jones. They will back him until its one year too late, like every other decision they make has been one year too late.



I can absolutely see this happening.


As I said, rhetorical.

Where's Ray from Arlington? Time to get to work buddy.
Any good defense  
phil in arizona : 9/27/2020 4:24 pm : link
is going to eat this team up.

I really wish they had more of an incrementalist approach to the rebuild.
Whew  
Spider43 : 9/27/2020 4:24 pm : link
How about those Niner HOF'ers... Nick 'Joe Montana' Mullens, Brandon 'Jerry Rice' Aiyuk, Jerick 'Roger Craig' McKinnon... oh wait...
RE: Three years ago the Niners were as bad as we were.  
santacruzom : 9/27/2020 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14986459 bceagle05 said:
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They brought in Lynch and Shanahan, we brought in Dinosaur Dave and Pat Shurmur. Just awful.


Lynch did an outstanding job acquiring multiple picks. He made a few mistakes, as any Gettleman defender will more than eagerly point out, but unlike us, they weren't as hamstrung by them because they gave themselves so many opportunities.
Well, the Rams will be motivated next week, so that's  
CT Charlie : 9/27/2020 4:24 pm : link
0-4. But Garrett and Graham are already game planning for the Cowboys. Shock the world: 1-4
I know  
WestCoastGiant56 : 9/27/2020 4:25 pm : link
We have a ton of issues. But Daniel Jones is not the answer. Just hope that after this season, we fire the guy that drafted him six and we hit reset
Just curious...are we allowed to say same old shit yet?  
Matt M. : 9/27/2020 4:25 pm : link
This team has gotten worse each week. Different coaching staffs, different personnel, same horrific results for years now.

I don't want to hear about injuries because look at the team we just played. For more than a couple of years, we still have absolutely no depth anywhere on this roster.

I am starting to get on board with firing Gettleman. I am starting to get on board with blowing things up. If we end up with the first pick, which at this point seems very possible, I am very open to taking Lawrence and moving on from Jones.

Fuck this team.
I do think  
dlauster : 9/27/2020 4:26 pm : link
that Daryl Johnston's comment about this year being brutal on teams with new coaches is valid.

Having said that, the lack of talent on this team is exasperating. That's all about repeated bad drafts....like a decade's worth.
And at 0-3  
Matt M. : 9/27/2020 4:26 pm : link
I see no reason not to just start playing Peart and Lemieux.
Awful performance  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/27/2020 4:26 pm : link
First big test for the new Head Coach coming up this week. Team seemed like it was going through the motions. No positives from today. Everything about the team took a big step back.

Jones looks rattled to me. I was for the Garrett hire but I have some doubts creeping in. If Peart and Lemieux know the assignments they have to think about getting them on the field. I think Judge needs to shake things up a little bit.
Misleading thread title  
j_rud : 9/27/2020 4:26 pm : link
"Post-game" implies the Giants were active participants in a contest.

That sure as shit did not happen today.
RE: Will the Giants  
Fritz : 9/27/2020 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14986457 Harvest Blend said:
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be smart enough to draft Lawrence or too stubborn?

That's pretty much a rhetorical question btw.


If they’re so bad that they’re in position to take him that would mean this was a disaster and Jones has lost at a historically bad rate so I think taking Lawrence is a no brainer.
RE: We are one more 1st round DT  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/27/2020 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14986526 give66 said:
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away from winning the superbowl.


I still look at how much draft capital we have invested in our Dline and just shake my head. Not a single one is a difference maker and they are not a top tiered group collectively. And we have talent deficiencies every where else. What a underwhelming team 🤦🏾‍♂️
RE: Any mediocre pending free agents available via trade?  
Fritz : 9/27/2020 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14986473 bceagle05 said:
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Maybe Dave can piss away another third round pick for our playoff push.


I would be looking to get rid of Williams in a trade to a team that has a chance to win as soon as possible. That is if there are any takers.
RE: Awful performance  
Matt M. : 9/27/2020 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14986624 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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First big test for the new Head Coach coming up this week. Team seemed like it was going through the motions. No positives from today. Everything about the team took a big step back.

Jones looks rattled to me. I was for the Garrett hire but I have some doubts creeping in. If Peart and Lemieux know the assignments they have to think about getting them on the field. I think Judge needs to shake things up a little bit.
It would be more than shaking things up. They would be replacing guys who suck and deserve to be replaced.
At this point, we should just root for the opponents of Cowboys and  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/27/2020 4:31 pm : link
Eagles week in and week out. More enjoyment and better for our health.

Let's go Seattle!!
question  
giantfan2000 : 9/27/2020 4:31 pm : link
did we successfully defend ONE Slant today?
RE: I don’t want to hear another fucking thing  
joeinpa : 9/27/2020 4:34 pm : link
In comment 14986493 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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about how good of a hire the head coach is. Right now, the team looks like dogshit and looks WORSE than they did last year. So much for the o-line coach hire changing anything. The QB is lost and Garrett refuses to move the pocket or throw screens to slow the pass rush. They hired a DC who was fired last year by a bad team and the D is now good in first down, bad on second down, and Division 1-AA on third down.

Fuck all of this shit. I’m tired of watching this nonsense.


I think there is a good chance Joe Judge is a good bird.
Listening to Carl Banks  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 4:34 pm : link
Was talking about how the 49ers took advantage of Love's hesitancy. He said that Love was overly cautious not wanting to give up the big play. And, that was one of big issues on defense.
Hapless  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/27/2020 4:35 pm : link
Giants
I can't help but think  
liteamorn : 9/27/2020 4:36 pm : link
That things won't change until we suffer another "Fumble of 78"
also said on draw play in redzone  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 4:38 pm : link
was a good play call but poorly blocked so Freeman got caught from behind.
Giants don't force 1 punt all game...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/27/2020 4:38 pm : link
Fans blame sophomore QB.
RE: Giants don't force 1 punt all game...  
RDJR : 9/27/2020 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14986684 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Fans blame sophomore QB.


LOL. Thought the same thing. Yeah Julian Love was the reason we got blown out.
I can imagine Giant fans wearing bags on the heads  
GFAN52 : 9/27/2020 4:41 pm : link
if fans were allowed.
Re: Judge  
Matt M. : 9/27/2020 4:42 pm : link
I liked the hire as soon as we got to hear and see him. I liked the staff he hired. But, I am not ready to say we are definitely in good hands right now. This is a tough year to gauge him due to no pre-season, no real camp, a terrible roster, and now Barkley out.

That said, we really need to see some improvement and some legitimate positives, not empty moral victories.
For a reason that I do not understand, Judge/Garrett refuse to play  
GeofromNJ : 9/27/2020 4:42 pm : link
a blocking FB, knowing full well that the offensive line, by itself, cannot open holes for a running back. Just plain stupidity. If the running game were even moderately effective, the passing game would be more successful.
RE: For a reason that I do not understand, Judge/Garrett refuse to play  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/27/2020 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14986699 GeofromNJ said:
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a blocking FB, knowing full well that the offensive line, by itself, cannot open holes for a running back. Just plain stupidity. If the running game were even moderately effective, the passing game would be more successful.


We literally gave up running the ball in the second quarter. These coaches did everything they could to not put the team in a position to win.
do they have a blocking FB?  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 4:45 pm : link
did he use one in Dallas? Won't help if OL continues to not play sound football.
They are awful  
joeinpa : 9/27/2020 4:46 pm : link
But questioning Joe Judge is beyond ridiculous

The problems with this team stem from bad decisions by the front office in hires and personnel decisions.

They have been the worst team in the league for a while now.

Expecting a new coaching staff to turn this around quickly, especially considering a covid impacted off -season is kind of silly, no?

They played a championship quality team today, and the chasm between these two teams was evident for all to see.

Giants fans impatience doesn’t make that fact untrue.

I wish the Giants OL can over power the DL....  
George from PA : 9/27/2020 4:46 pm : link
I wish we had open WR crossing over the middle.

I wish we had lanes to run.

I wish we can stop drives.

I wish we can get to QB.

I wish we can start games better, end 2nd QTer better, start 2nd half better....end the game better.
RE: Giants don't force 1 punt all game...  
bw in dc : 9/27/2020 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14986684 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Fans blame sophomore QB.


Back-up QB, back-up RB, back-up TE, and a slew of #2/#3 receivers...and no punts.

Astonishing.
all starts up front  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 4:49 pm : link
w/ exception of Bosa - front 7 on defense and OL were starters in last year's Super Bowl. Still should have played better though
I would be all in on firing Gettleman if  
Blue Dream : 9/27/2020 4:50 pm : link
I Didn't already know the replacement would be Abrams
RE: I would be all in on firing Gettleman if  
bw in dc : 9/27/2020 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14986748 Blue Dream said:
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I Didn't already know the replacement would be Abrams


Exactly. Its a fait accompli.

With Mara it's all about loyalty and familiarity. And a commitment to the "Giants Way".
Carl Banks  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 4:55 pm : link
seemed to think interior 3 of OL is the biggest issue on offense.
RE: Carl Banks  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/27/2020 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14986765 bc4life said:
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seemed to think interior 3 of OL is the biggest issue on offense.


100%. I’ve always marveled at the Patriots’ interior o-lines and their ability to keep from getting pushed back on the QB’s feet. It allows the QB to step up when the tackles get beaten. The Giants interior linemen get walked back in pass protection, can’t pick up stunts, never get across a defender when they run, and a million other issues. On the rare plays they get anything done, Jones either completes a pass or sees ghosts.
they've put a lot on Gates plate  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 5:03 pm : link
a guy who has been playing tackle and guard in the pros.
post game comments by Banks & Papa  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 5:06 pm : link
Commented that defense was expecting motion and a lot of things 49ers do on offense. But, players seemed to fall for the "eye candy" making them not trust their keys.
I think DJ  
liteamorn : 9/27/2020 5:07 pm : link
Has to a better job throwing that ball away too, at least 2 more of his tosses had the appearance of some of his worst pics.
RE: they've put a lot on Gates plate  
WillVAB : 9/27/2020 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14986792 bc4life said:
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a guy who has been playing tackle and guard in the pros.


Whose fault is that? Go watch Biadasz for Dallas right now. Gates has no business starting Center for anyone.
they picked up Freeman  
bc4life : 9/27/2020 5:08 pm : link
I wonder if there are any Centers out there that can help them get through the season?
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