give it a little time for Joe Judge to right the ship. Three games in, all new coaches and systems, no preseason games, restrictive camp rules, Covid.
I know it looks shitty now, but give the guy a chance.
A year ago nobody knew who Joe Judge was. Let him get his feet wet. He's learned from the best. Let's see if the pupil evolves into the teacher.
Two words. Joe Gibbs. Came to the Redskins in 1981 as a little known 40 YO assistant from the Chargers. Started I think 3 rookies on the OL. Got off to an 0-5 start with the fans calling for his head. Wound up finishing the year 8-8 and was Super Bowl bound year 2.
I know the play so far has overall been poor. A few flashes but for the most part piss poor. When the D mentally checked out yesterday in the second half it was down right embarrassing. Had to fry Judge. I would not want to be in the locker room tomorrow.
Joe Judge looks the part. He talks the talk. He just feels right after the last five or so years. Patience.
The more alarming issue is that players are regressing. Hernandez looks lost, Jones still turns the ball over, the defensive line gets pushed around. These things are not necessarily coaching or lack of an offseason, its lack of individual progression and overall lack of talent. That falls largely on the shoulders of the individual charged with fixing the talent issue.
In the immortal words of Michael Ray Richardson, the ship be sinking.
Another dumb comment, so fans can't be frustrated? AND WHERE THE HELL DO YOU SEE WINS???????
Yes, the coach deserves more than 3 games before his fate is determined. The GM has had a lot more than 3 games now. Do you think this team is better than it was when he inherited it? The W/L numbers don't say so.
NFL rebuilds shouldn't require 5+ years. The clock is up on the "patience" crowd.
The Giants keep hiring the wrong people and until John Mara stops being the guy making those decisions, it's not likely to change.
No one should be writing off Judge or Jones at this point. IN the same no one should be writing off A Thomas or Darius Slayton.
But Gettleman? yes, the jury is in on that and it isn't good.
Mara's meddling.... yes... also GUILTY.
I and others have been screaming for a complete reboot for years. we have come close but there always seems to be some tether to the "Giants way" that keeps us form really effecting true change.
Coughlin was old school but he was able to get guys with a lot bigger egos (Strahan, Tiki, Toomer, Plax, Osi)to be a positive for the team.
Gettlemen is on the hot seat, and he deserves it, but he probably gets a nod because of the horrible restrictions thrown at teams with new coaches and the SB injury. Losing a #1, 4, and 5 for Baker is a killer. That could have been a starting CB, a Center and a 3rd or 4th WR. Maybe no-one knew Baker was a head case but it was his call, he lives with it and has to take the blame. True, Barkley wasn't running the ball but the 8 man boxes teams used to stop him helped Daniel Jones. Now teams are going to Game plan to stop the passing game. As bad as we are at passing, it is our only hope for the time being.
Even coaching HS football, the hardest, and most time consuming task, is getting the OL to play as a unit. If this happens, you will see some progress. We got better at the end of Shurmur's 1st year because the OL played better.. Things will improve....I hope!
Every team had no preseason and had Covid, other teams have new systems and didn't lose a beat. None is worse at putting points on the board than ours. In an era where shootouts are common, we are looking to break the magical 17 point mark.
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[quote] It's not 3 games. It is *years* of the same, recurring issues.
Yes, the coach deserves more than 3 games before his fate is determined. The GM has had a lot more than 3 games now. Do you think this team is better than it was when he inherited it? The W/L numbers don't say so.
NFL rebuilds shouldn't require 5+ years. The clock is up on the "patience" crowd.
This is why I never hope for losses to improve draft position. Teams that are losing keep losing.
We just lost to the niners back ups by 30, with the roster that DG has put together.
The most troubling aspects are the things you'd expect to be lean on are in trouble.
- Cam Fleming and Kevin Zeitler look absolutely toast
- There is no depth at WR, Tate looks his age, and Shepard cannot stay healthy
- The depth and overall group at middle linebacker next to Martinez is alarming
- The tight end group looks outclassed in the blocking game
- The defensive line, while productive, doesn't look a top tier unit
Those are the areas where you do or should have vets to tread water right now.
Gettleman absolutely has to go.
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It's 51 games...the team is 12 and 39 since 2016. I think the sample size is now big enough to warrant ship jumping.
THIS
No not "this", different systems, different coaches, different philosophies and different players need time to adjust and gel …and that means seasons not games
No preseason, limited practices, ask yourself wtf were "your" expectations to start the year?
You people keep wanting to re-set, re-build, re-do with no ability to be patient....well here is the results of just that.
So we want to fire the GM after 3 seasons now? Fuck we are close to becoming the Browns.
Time is running out? he's responsible for assembling the worst roster in the NFL. Time's up. Time has been up on this moron for some time now
I haven't given up on Judge, the coaching staff in general, Jones, Slayton, Thomas, Lawrence, McKinney, Martinez and Bradbury
Does giving up on this FO constitute jumping ship? If that's the case, I jumped that ship a year ago.
Close to the Browns??? Pal, they're WORSE than the Browns. Are you serious? Dave Gettleman has been the GM for three years now - is this team any better than the team he inherited? Nope. By his own stated goals, he's a complete failure. The offensive line is pure garbage and I don't care how many games you give them to "gel" (I see that's the new buzzword for the Gettleman apologists) - a line that starts Nick Gates at center and Cam Fleming at RT will always be below average. The secondary is a flaming dumpster fire aside from Bradberry. There's still no pass rush. The WRs are the weakest crew in the league.
But hey, they have a lot of widebody, run-stuffing DTs, so Mr. Magoo can hang his hat on that, at least!
I like what Judge’s plan is and I believe it will work but his turnaround will take some time.
The quickest turn arounds are when there is a good but underperforming roster. That is not what we have.
I do like Jones pick and I still like the Barkley pick because I enjoyed watching him. I can not argue that Gettleman has done a good job. Hard to win that argument and maybe he will retire, but I am all in on Judge and what he is trying to do. It is hard to tell anyone to be patient after the past many years, but that is just what we need to do with Judge.
I like the coach and think he’ll pull the team forward.
I like the coach and think he’ll pull the team forward.
**THIS**
I like the coach and think he’ll pull the team forward.
I am not sure anyone has a legitimate concern over the coaching staff. The bigger concern is DG and the front office. Can anyone think of a position now that is better than the day DG took over? He's had 3 offseasons, that's a decent amount of time in the NFL. The QB is in regression, which is alarming in and of itself. Maybe the line is as terrible as it was 3 years ago. His claim to fame is a running back who isn't on the field (and even if he was, he selected a running back believing the 2018 team could compete).
So, DG has had time to improve things. They don't look good right now.
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It's 51 games...the team is 12 and 39 since 2016. I think the sample size is now big enough to warrant ship jumping.
In the immortal words of Michael Ray Richardson, the ship be sinking.
It do.
Gettleman absolutely has to go.
Bingo. Nobody's jumping ship on Judge.
We all know the Giants kept DG bc they're not an ownership group that can get comfortable turning the keys of the whole operation over to a new regime without one of their guys in place for continuity. And we've already beaten that horse to death, that's a separate discussion from Judge
Your point is exactly what some of us are upset about. It's basically admitting that that the last two years have been wasted. If that is in fact true, then we shouldn't be "resetting" with the same GM who squandered the last two seasons. Add in the fact, that the overmatched scout posing as a GM already set himself up to avoid the blame with his "it all depends on how fast the puppies develop" line.
This is the third year of his tenure, anything short of a .500 season should seal DG's fate.
1-2 NO, Det, LAC, Car, Cinn, Jax, Mia and the NFC East Dal/Phi/Was
Its 3 games against quality opponents - Pit 3-0, Chi 3-0, SF 2-1
But I don't have to WATCH them until times are better. There are better ways to spend a fall Sunday. Football is supposed to be entertainment. Right now, it just isn't -- unless you're a masochist. I'll tape the games, and if they win, I'll watch. If they keep losing, I don't see the point. If there's something to SEE -- like Jones having a great game in a loss, I'll watch the highlights.
Sadly, being a Giants fan in this era is all about the OFFSEASON. And the Draft is our Superbowl.
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It's 51 games...the team is 12 and 39 since 2016. I think the sample size is now big enough to warrant ship jumping.
THIS
No not "this", different systems, different coaches, different philosophies and different players need time to adjust and gel …and that means seasons not games
No preseason, limited practices, ask yourself wtf were "your" expectations to start the year?
You people keep wanting to re-set, re-build, re-do with no ability to be patient....well here is the results of just that.
So we want to fire the GM after 3 seasons now? Fuck we are close to becoming the Browns.
No, it does not mean seasons. Teams do not get seasons to acclimate to a new coach and new system. It's not like these guys have never played football before - they just look like they haven't.
NFL players learn new systems regularly, they learn new terminology sometimes on a week-to-week basis. The amount of patience that some fans ask each other to have sometimes really is beyond what competent NFL players should require in order to play cohesively.
Did the lack of a proper offseason set this team back? Yes, absolutely. Are they a mediocre roster on top of those disadvantages? Also yes, absolutely.
The talent level simply isn't where it needs to be, despite the massive turnover. How many losses over a three season span is enough to realize that no matter how bad of a roster he inherited, DG has not improved it - is 35 losses over three years enough? How about 40? The Browns aren't bad because they kept firing GMs; they kept firing GMs because they were bad.
Stability is not the cause of success in the NFL to anywhere near the extent to which stability is the result of success. Simply keeping a mediocre GM for the sake of stability doesn't get you anywhere closer to a championship than getting rid of a GM because he's mediocre does.
Newsflash - we're already the Browns. Or worse.
What good does 3 wins do? We beat two teams trying to lose last year and everone celebrated...and lost out on Chase Young to a team we beat. Lose them all, fire everyone, and rebuild around Lawrence. Look at DG's history of hiring coaches...Judge is no different, just better in press conferences. This team is going nowhere, stop hoping for a "few" wins. Blow it up!
Stability is not the cause of success in the NFL to anywhere near the extent to which stability is the result of success. Simply keeping a mediocre GM for the sake of stability doesn't get you anywhere closer to a championship than getting rid of a GM because he's mediocre does.
Well said.
I can’t watch them anymore. The second the game starts, you know they’re going to lose. And they always lose.
Honestly, this team is going to be gutted again (rightfully so). There’s no point in even watching just for development purposes.
So call me a fair weather fan all you want. Couldn’t care less. I can’t do it to myself anymore. I’m going pumpkin picking and apple picking with the kids Sunday. I’m not wasting anymore nice Sundays aggravating myself.
If being a real fan is having a bad case Stockholm Syndrome and not holding the team accountable, we should all aspire to not be real fans.
This is as untrue a statement as I've seen on here recently.
Just because the Giants want to the old ways as much as possible and make nepotism a requirement for working with them doesn't mean they deserve a handicap for that. If you want to enter your classic car into a race against those with cutting edge engineering, you don't get to use that as an excuse AFTER you lose the race. You keep winning races kudos to you.
GD's 4:43 on this thread was great.
I can’t watch them anymore. The second the game starts, you know they’re going to lose. And they always lose.
Honestly, this team is going to be gutted again (rightfully so). There’s no point in even watching just for development purposes.
So call me a fair weather fan all you want. Couldn’t care less. I can’t do it to myself anymore. I’m going pumpkin picking and apple picking with the kids Sunday. I’m not wasting anymore nice Sundays aggravating myself.
You gotta do you, man.
The Giants really aren't worth any of our time right now. I still watch the games every week, but in 2017, we got so bad that I actually would start games and not be able to finish them. By like.. halftime, I would just be so disgusted and checked out that I'd change the channel.
I can see that happening again this year much sooner than later.
Obviously we sucked in 2018 and 2019, too - but in 2018, Barkley at least made me feel like the Giants were worth watching and then last year I obviously wanted to see how Jones would play and develop. So, I stuck most of those out.
But it's a tough ask to force any fan to sit through another miserable year like this.
Perhaps I'm more sympathetic because of me literally jumping ship on the Mets to the point where I stopped rooting for them entirely.. lol. But, no matter how much shit I've gotten for that and will get, it was just a personal decision that I stand by and have no intention of going back on.
No one should watch sports or enjoy sports through any lens other than their own. I don't blame anyone who has just had enough of the Giants and needs a break. The losing an terrible football is exhausting. It's just a hopeless football team right now.
The Giants are different for me and they're not a team I'll ever stop rooting for, but yeah - I mean seasons like this, there's just a certain point where you can only take so much. It's brutal. The team is just bad. Really bad.
You don’t have to have patience, but the alternative is to be miserable, which many obviously are.
I already know, I m not going to stop watching the games, or being a fan.
So I m looking for improvement, hopefully some wins by year s end, but more importantly that they are on the right track.
Some have indicated they are done caring or watching, probably a good choice for them.
Hopefully you ll come back when things are better.
And the 12-40 belongs to the Giants.
Of course the coach is only 0-3 and this isn't his fault. I actually like the guy. I don't think this is his fault at all. It has been and is a talent issue.
A lot of us are tired of unwatchable, terrible football. The Giants are susceptible to needing to rebuild just like anyone else in this league, but given the resources this org has and that they spend money every year, this is inexcusable.
The Giants should not be a doormat for this long. This is shit you expect from the Jets.
We had all the moral victory people talking about how hard the team was playing again and this is the most embarrassing loss I can even remember from the Giants.
You can be hopeful that Judge is the solution and excited about his approach and say that was an incredibly disappointing coaching performance in the same breath.
We had all the moral victory people talking about how hard the team was playing again and this is the most embarrassing loss I can even remember from the Giants.
You can be hopeful that Judge is the solution and excited about his approach and say that was an incredibly disappointing coaching performance in the same breath.
I'm sure if we eventually win a handful of games this year the moral victory folks will be back.
And the 12-40 belongs to the Giants.
Of course the coach is only 0-3 and this isn't his fault. I actually like the guy. I don't think this is his fault at all. It has been and is a talent issue.
A lot of us are tired of unwatchable, terrible football. The Giants are susceptible to needing to rebuild just like anyone else in this league, but given the resources this org has and that they spend money every year, this is inexcusable.
The Giants should not be a doormat for this long. This is shit you expect from the Jets.
I get it. Didn’t say I m not disgusted, but changes were made that I wanted so I m going to hang in there.
Guess I m drawing a line of demarcation separating 2012 - 2019 and this season
It's been clear to me for a while that there's no coherent plan from anyone in a leadership position in this franchise.
All we've got now is hope and hope, as they say, is not a plan.
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We aren't Joe Judge fans, Joe - we're Giants fans.
And the 12-40 belongs to the Giants.
Of course the coach is only 0-3 and this isn't his fault. I actually like the guy. I don't think this is his fault at all. It has been and is a talent issue.
A lot of us are tired of unwatchable, terrible football. The Giants are susceptible to needing to rebuild just like anyone else in this league, but given the resources this org has and that they spend money every year, this is inexcusable.
The Giants should not be a doormat for this long. This is shit you expect from the Jets.
I get it. Didn’t say I m not disgusted, but changes were made that I wanted so I m going to hang in there.
Guess I m drawing a line of demarcation separating 2012 - 2019 and this season
I hear you. Again it's tough because we always have GM's and coaches on different, staggered schedules.
So, Joe Judge deserves more time - but does Gettleman? I'd argue he doesn't.
And if the FO decides they agree, then we have the whole "do you clean house again, do you force Judge on the new GM, do you look for a GM who wants Judge to stay, etc..."
All of it is really less than ideal.
I'd love to see them really turn things around and play significantly better football as this season goes on - I just think the talent issue is too great to overcome the inexperience and mistakes. We're a team that just cannot afford to spot the opponent anything. It's going to take near mistake-free games to get into the W column with this group and they're making a LOT of mistakes early on.
That's my view too.
And if the FO decides they agree, then we have the whole "do you clean house again, do you force Judge on the new GM, do you look for a GM who wants Judge to stay, etc..."
Exactly. Which is why Abrams makes the most sense - unfortunately.
It creates the least amount of disruption. Again, unfortunately.
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And if the FO decides they agree, then we have the whole "do you clean house again, do you force Judge on the new GM, do you look for a GM who wants Judge to stay, etc..."
Exactly. Which is why Abrams makes the most sense - unfortunately.
It creates the least amount of disruption. Again, unfortunately.
But I don't get that excuse. And that shouldn't fly with fans. IMO they very much did it this way so they could try to set up the argument of Abrams being the guy was the best way forward to keep continuity with Judge.
Can't reward that kind of behavior by fans to back us into a corner for more cronyism with cronyism.
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
Pretty much everyone else here thinks the same exact thing of you. I mean, just look at what you posted in this trash-ass post you just made:
"Losing game." As if it's just 'one game' and not 7-8 years worth of mostly trash games. Worst team in football over the past 3 years. 12-44 over their past 56 games or some shit. Are you mentally and emotionally stable? Do you have an IQ over 15? Because if you're a Giants fan and think other Giants fans are only frustrated about this past week's game, and not the past several seasons, then you have severe issues that need to be checked out or you simply don't pay attention. The days of posters calling out other posters for shitting on this team are long gone now. Deal with the fact, genius.
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some of you need to re-evaluate if your healthy enough humans to watch football. Some of the comments I read on here during a losing game are kind of unsettling
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
Pretty much everyone else here thinks the same exact thing of you. I mean, just look at what you posted in this trash-ass post you just made:
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Some of the comments I read on here during a losing game are kind of unsettling
"Losing game." As if it's just 'one game' and not 7-8 years worth of mostly trash games. Worst team in football over the past 3 years. 12-44 over their past 56 games or some shit. Are you mentally and emotionally stable? Do you have an IQ over 15? Because if you're a Giants fan and think other Giants fans are only frustrated about this past week's game, and not the past several seasons, then you have severe issues that need to be checked out or you simply don't pay attention. The days of posters calling out other posters for shitting on this team are long gone now. Deal with the fact, genius.
lol, so tuff tho
2) That said, Judge seems like the kind of coach who has the potential to turn things around. But, even with a shitty roster, his rope can't be that long, because we can't afford much more futility. To me, that means this year may be a wash, but next year better yield results.
3) I am quickly becoming a fan of firing Gettleman. Do I think he is terrible? No. I think his last 2 drafts were pretty good. But, he also leaves a lot to be desired in his FA dealings and he has made some bad trades I am absolutely not a fan of. For me, the worst part is no real plan. I do not have a problem with him coming in and thinking he could re-load with Manning. I still believe Manning had some good play left in him. Where I think he made a mistake is that he did nothing to improve the team with Manning. They continued to have one of the worst OLs I've ever seen. His solution? Draft Barkley with virtually the same historically bad OL. So, now you wasted what little Eli had in the tank and potentially wasted the talent of Barkley. That wasn't much of a plan.
If Gettleman survives after this season, there is no way next year should be anything other than a make or break year for him. To me, that means playoffs or gone. For Judge the leash should be almost as short, but a solid showing short of the playoffs should buy him 1 more season after next.
4) No single area was really upgraded in the last few years. They are possibly slightly more talented all around, but still have an embarrassing lack of depth at every position. This team still, unfortunately, seems unable to take a step forward in any capacity.
5) For me, a lot is riding on 2 players. We have 2 potential long term solutions on the OL in Lemieux and Peart. They happen to be behind 2 players who are playing horribly. With another season basically in the tank again, I say play the 2 rookies. They really can't play any worse and we get to evaluate them and get their growing pains out of the way now. It tells us what is needed for next year. Best case scenario shows us to anchors for the line leaving OC and RG to address moving forward. Without playing them, we still have questions at every position other than LT.
6) I truly can't see how anyone is legitimately optimistic at this point. I love the Giants. I root for the Giants to win every week. I go into every season believing they got better and they can compete (even each of the last few years). I still believe Judge has the potential to lead this team pout of the darkness, as stated above. But, I have seen absolutely NOTHING to beieve that will happen this year.
Can anyone honestly look at this team after these 3 games and see anything other than a shitty team that has shown no signs of being any better than any of the shitty teams we've seen for the last few years? The only good season we have to speak of over the last several was 2015, which turned out to be an anomaly as the result of a crazy FA spree on the D. It was short lived because Reese and McAdoo and the players rested on their laurels, expecting repeat results. They did nothing to improve after that season, and the record shows it.
Defense played fairly well. But secondary missing 3 starters was not helpful. McKinney, Baker, & Beal being out is ignored, while people point out how many starters didn't play for 49ers.
I'm pissed but hopeful. Every time they bring in a new HC, it starts the process all over again.
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
Personally I think a grown adult should know the difference between you're and your before questioning anyone's health.
I think the board might be better off if you rededicated yourself more often to mountain biking instead of posting.
To MOOPS point, 2016 - 2019 are irrelevant (2012-2016 even more so). It's a new era. As Eric wrote in a recent preview: we're starting over!
Using MOOPS example of Gibbs starting his head coaching career in '81, it would be like complaining about 1978-'80 and lumping Gibbs in with that futility.
Ever wonder how the greatest teams become so great? They don't read the headlines. They don't get caught up in their record or the standings. They have a system, they focus on their system of improvements continually.
These teams don't let themselves get up or down.
We know what kind of team Coach Judge is trying to create. His words have so far been echoed by the players.
The road isn't going to be easy this year. We will see how the team responds.
Don't feel bad for being upset on Sunday. That performance really hurt.
But don't get too caught up in it either. Every week there are teams that look so much better or worse than the week before. We had a bad week - but there is time to turn that around.
This team has only one mission right now - beating the Rams. Let's see how they do.
Ever wonder how the greatest teams become so great? They don't read the headlines. They don't get caught up in their record or the standings. They have a system, they focus on their system of improvements continually.
These teams don't let themselves get up or down.
We know what kind of team Coach Judge is trying to create. His words have so far been echoed by the players.
The road isn't going to be easy this year. We will see how the team responds.
Don't feel bad for being upset on Sunday. That performance really hurt.
But don't get too caught up in it either. Every week there are teams that look so much better or worse than the week before. We had a bad week - but there is time to turn that around.
This team has only one mission right now - beating the Rams. Let's see how they do.
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I had hope that Joe Judge was going to be such a good HC that he would immediately make a difference. Bill Parcells couldn't. Jimmy Johnson couldn't. But this is a different era in the NFL and I hoped Joe Judge could. That's dead. I think Joe Judge just found out that the hard job he thought he had in front of him when he took the job is actually much harder than he thought. Half his roster couldn't make more than 1 or 2 other teams rosters. Half his starters wouldn't be backups on good teams.
I hoped Daniel Jones was going to be a worthy successor to Eli Manning. That hope is dying. He's regressed. Teams have taken away what he did well as a rookie. No more man coverage. Jones struggles against zone defenses. The whole league knows now. He doesn't see the field well. He doesn't read defenses well so he holds the ball and is a never ending turnover machine. If he stays healthy by the time this year is over his career record will be probably be about 6-22.
So after 3 disastrous seasons Gettleman will be "retired". It will be a mercy retirement for him and Giant fans. But it presents more problems than it solves. The Giants are going to interview for a new GM. So far so good. But the new GM will be told he has to keep the HC, the 6-22 QB and one of the owners is the SRVP of Player Personnel and his nephew is his top lieutenant. What in demand NFL executive is taking that job?
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
Deep thoughts, brah.
No shit. We all get that. It’s entertainment, but it’s still okay to be invested and want the team to do well. It’s okay to be annoyed with incompetence.
No shit. We all get that. It’s entertainment, but it’s still okay to be invested and want the team to do well. It’s okay to be annoyed with incompetence.
Yessir.
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some of you need to re-evaluate if your healthy enough humans to watch football. Some of the comments I read on here during a losing game are kind of unsettling
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
Personally I think a grown adult should know the difference between you're and your before questioning anyone's health.
I think the board might be better off if you rededicated yourself more often to mountain biking instead of posting.
Oh, NVM - just saw that your profile says you're a "nerd killer" - want my address so you can try to kill me?
1-2 NO, Det, LAC, Car, Cinn, Jax, Mia and the NFC East Dal/Phi/Was
Its 3 games against quality opponents - Pit 3-0, Chi 3-0, SF 2-1
Quality opponents? We just played the Niners B squad and got whooped worse than the other teams A squads. And technically speaking we have now lost to TWO back up QBs this year. As Trubisky is now riding pine.
We stink. I don’t blame the coach. If he had talent we would be more competitive I’m sure.
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some of you need to re-evaluate if your healthy enough humans to watch football. Some of the comments I read on here during a losing game are kind of unsettling
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
Personally I think a grown adult should know the difference between you're and your before questioning anyone's health.
I think the board might be better off if you rededicated yourself more often to mountain biking instead of posting.
Oh, NVM - just saw that your profile says you're a "nerd killer" - want my address so you can try to kill me?
Prob should update that since I joined when this was called "Petes Corner"
an just tell you to "ease up" should suffice.
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some of you need to re-evaluate if your healthy enough humans to watch football. Some of the comments I read on here during a losing game are kind of unsettling
I get it you want to find someone to blame for your sense of hurting but Jesus Christ man there's other things in life to help you live more balanced.
I left and went Mountain biking after the 3rd qtr, was an awesome day.
Personally I think a grown adult should know the difference between you're and your before questioning anyone's health.
I think the board might be better off if you rededicated yourself more often to mountain biking instead of posting.
Oh, NVM - just saw that your profile says you're a "nerd killer" - want my address so you can try to kill me?
Prob should update that since I joined when this was called "Petes Corner"
an just tell you to "ease up" should suffice.
I guess we are just a collection of super casual fans that somehow through the stars aligning have found each other.
We really don't know if it was shaken up with the coaching change. Judge and staff likely got some say, but we don't know how much.
IF it was a lot, then patience is in order to see how he affects talent acquisition. the talent level won't dramatically change in one year no matter how good Judge is in talent evaluation.
IF the situation is closer to the "coaches don't shop for groceries" end of the spectrum, there should be no patience in the acquisition dep't, because that group has been in place for a while. Blow it all up - DG, scouting dept, whatever input the Maras have. IF Abrams is a big part of evaluation (rather than just being the accountant), blow him up, too. The dynamic has to change if the team is going to improve.