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BLUATHRT : 10/6/2020 6:12 pm
I know it’s a small sample but wow, what a difference he made on D versus what Downs was giving them. Beyond the speed differential (game speed was markedly different than Downs) his instincts and assignment integrity was incredible. Along with Martinez, we may actually have our pair inside for the foreseeable future! This is one thing I’m really excited to see develop over the rest of the year!
I keyed on him  
TommyWiseau : 10/6/2020 6:15 pm : link
a few times and he seemed to move well. Pissed that interception of his got overturned
Nice to hear.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/6/2020 6:18 pm : link
If "Mr. Irrelevant" is a valuable player, that's a nice win for the Giants.

The whole "Mr. Irrelevant" thing is really misguided nowadays. It made a certain amount of sense when the draft was 15 rounds, and those end-of-the-draft rookies had almost no shot to make the team. A 7th-round pick, even a late 7th-rounder, is far from irrelevant. It's rare to find a starter there, but it's not rare to find a developmental prospect who at least makes the practice squad and competes for a roster spot in year 2.
Here is Bobbie Skinner  
M.S. : 10/6/2020 6:29 pm : link

from Talkin' Giants showing you Tae Crowder's great tape from Rams game.

Link - ( New Window )
RE: Nice to hear.  
Biteymax22 : 10/6/2020 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14998717 81_Great_Dane said:
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If "Mr. Irrelevant" is a valuable player, that's a nice win for the Giants.

The whole "Mr. Irrelevant" thing is really misguided nowadays. It made a certain amount of sense when the draft was 15 rounds, and those end-of-the-draft rookies had almost no shot to make the team. A 7th-round pick, even a late 7th-rounder, is far from irrelevant. It's rare to find a starter there, but it's not rare to find a developmental prospect who at least makes the practice squad and competes for a roster spot in year 2.


Was it him or Brunson that had a bunch of teams offer him big $$ as in UDFA as they didn’t think he’d be drafted but he was their top priority? I remember reading an article eluding that being drafted actually cost him money.
MS  
Mark from Jersey : 10/6/2020 7:30 pm : link
Thanks for the link. Good stuff
That s exciting  
joeinpa : 10/6/2020 7:38 pm : link
Something to look for Sunday
thank you  
mpinmaine : 10/6/2020 8:04 pm : link
we need it
RE: RE: Nice to hear.  
AcidTest : 10/6/2020 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14998730 Biteymax22 said:
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If "Mr. Irrelevant" is a valuable player, that's a nice win for the Giants.

The whole "Mr. Irrelevant" thing is really misguided nowadays. It made a certain amount of sense when the draft was 15 rounds, and those end-of-the-draft rookies had almost no shot to make the team. A 7th-round pick, even a late 7th-rounder, is far from irrelevant. It's rare to find a starter there, but it's not rare to find a developmental prospect who at least makes the practice squad and competes for a roster spot in year 2.



Was it him or Brunson that had a bunch of teams offer him big $$ as in UDFA as they didn’t think he’d be drafted but he was their top priority? I remember reading an article eluding that being drafted actually cost him money.


I think it was Crowder.
Would love to see him  
ryanmkeane : 10/6/2020 8:23 pm : link
get more snaps against Dallas. We’ll see. Seems the athleticism vs Downs is a no brainer. Is he really undersized?
RE: Would love to see him  
nygiants16 : 10/6/2020 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14998829 ryanmkeane said:
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get more snaps against Dallas. We’ll see. Seems the athleticism vs Downs is a no brainer. Is he really undersized?


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RE: Here is Bobbie Skinner  
Del Shofner : 10/6/2020 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14998729 M.S. said:
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from Talkin' Giants showing you Tae Crowder's great tape from Rams game. Link - ( New Window )


Nice, thanks for posting it.
Nice thread, nice video. Thanks guys  
Ira : 10/7/2020 7:33 am : link
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Looks like the evaluation of Devante Downs was a miss from Judge and  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/7/2020 8:58 am : link
team. Not the end of the world, but Connelly made plays every start while Downs has been in the wash. I hope Crowder is as impactful as Connelly was, we'll see. COnnelly was no athletic slouch and the kid made plays at Wisco the same way he did for the Giants. Still a head scratcher for Downs.
RE: Looks like the evaluation of Devante Downs was a miss from Judge and  
crick n NC : 10/7/2020 9:13 am : link
In comment 14999347 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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team. Not the end of the world, but Connelly made plays every start while Downs has been in the wash. I hope Crowder is as impactful as Connelly was, we'll see. COnnelly was no athletic slouch and the kid made plays at Wisco the same way he did for the Giants. Still a head scratcher for Downs.


There is a certain leap of faith regarding players that coaches make when choosing an unproven player.

As for Connelly, it is rarely mentioned by posters who lament his release that he did suffer a major knee injury and maybe he just isn't the same guy. Ryan connelly still wasn't a proven nfl starter before he was injured, he certainly was showing positive signs, but he is quickly being looked at as having some bright NFL future when he really didn't have that much nfl game experience before he was injured.
RE: Looks like the evaluation of Devante Downs was a miss from Judge and  
Jay on the Island : 10/7/2020 9:55 am : link
In comment 14999347 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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team. Not the end of the world, but Connelly made plays every start while Downs has been in the wash. I hope Crowder is as impactful as Connelly was, we'll see. COnnelly was no athletic slouch and the kid made plays at Wisco the same way he did for the Giants. Still a head scratcher for Downs.

This is one of the main issues with no preseason. Every training camp we read about several lesser known players having strong practices only to disappear in preseason games. I am willing to bet that Downs would not have made the team had there been preseason games.
RE: RE: Looks like the evaluation of Devante Downs was a miss from Judge and  
crick n NC : 10/7/2020 9:59 am : link
In comment 14999424 Jay on the Island said:
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team. Not the end of the world, but Connelly made plays every start while Downs has been in the wash. I hope Crowder is as impactful as Connelly was, we'll see. COnnelly was no athletic slouch and the kid made plays at Wisco the same way he did for the Giants. Still a head scratcher for Downs.


This is one of the main issues with no preseason. Every training camp we read about several lesser known players having strong practices only to disappear in preseason games. I am willing to bet that Downs would not have made the team had there been preseason games.


Good point Jay.
I think Sy mentioned this in his review  
giants#1 : 10/7/2020 10:19 am : link
but Fackrell also played a fair number of snaps next to Martinez. I think it's as simple as the CS viewing Connelly as too 1-dimensional and not fitting the mold of what they're looking for.

Fackrell provides size and is a good rusher from the LB position.

Crowder appears to have great speed/range and can hopefully develop into a solid coverage LB.

I believe Downs is much more athletic than Connelly too, it just looks like Downs' instincts suck.

Connelly is basically only playing  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/7/2020 10:26 am : link
Special Teams on the Vikings and has one tackle, so maybe he isn't what we thought. He has had one defensive snap during the second game.
Getting away from the fact that Tae Crowder was IN  
Dinger : 10/7/2020 12:50 pm : link
and played a significant amount of snaps AND looked halfway decent. Maybe its me but I find it refreshingly different than coaches in the past who may have been afraid to go to another player too soon. I give Judge credit for Crowder, Peart and Lewis getting looks. It may have been the case that he was punishing players who looked like crap against the Niners or just 4 games in and he's building for down the road. Felt like in years past we were sticking with bad players too long or we didn't have a decent alternative available. Again, one game, but against a tough opponent.
RE: RE: Looks like the evaluation of Devante Downs was a miss from Judge and  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/7/2020 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14999424 Jay on the Island said:
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team. Not the end of the world, but Connelly made plays every start while Downs has been in the wash. I hope Crowder is as impactful as Connelly was, we'll see. COnnelly was no athletic slouch and the kid made plays at Wisco the same way he did for the Giants. Still a head scratcher for Downs.


This is one of the main issues with no preseason. Every training camp we read about several lesser known players having strong practices only to disappear in preseason games. I am willing to bet that Downs would not have made the team had there been preseason games.


Good point Jay. And if he's still hurt, then I don't think he'd be playing now. The kid made plays in college, came to the nfl and just kept on making those same plays. Let's see where he goes from here, I hope all Badgers go on and play well.
Much more excited about our defense  
5BowlsSoon : 10/7/2020 2:33 pm : link
Ryan Lewis and Tae Crowder and maybe even Madre...they all add speed and aggressiveness we have lacked. Get McKinney back and who knows?

Oh, BLAKE is a beast!
That was a nice little video on Crowder  
LBH15 : 10/7/2020 4:21 pm : link
Didn't recall him standing out so well but that film shows he displayed some decent stuff.

Downs was a train-wreck in a long list of NYG train-wrecks at Linebacker. What the hell did the coaches see in him?

Would be fabulous if Martinez and Crowder become a nice tandem in the middle of this defense.
RE: RE: RE: Looks like the evaluation of Devante Downs was a miss from Judge and  
Jay on the Island : 10/7/2020 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14999636 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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In comment 14999347 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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team. Not the end of the world, but Connelly made plays every start while Downs has been in the wash. I hope Crowder is as impactful as Connelly was, we'll see. COnnelly was no athletic slouch and the kid made plays at Wisco the same way he did for the Giants. Still a head scratcher for Downs.


This is one of the main issues with no preseason. Every training camp we read about several lesser known players having strong practices only to disappear in preseason games. I am willing to bet that Downs would not have made the team had there been preseason games.



Good point Jay. And if he's still hurt, then I don't think he'd be playing now. The kid made plays in college, came to the nfl and just kept on making those same plays. Let's see where he goes from here, I hope all Badgers go on and play well.

I was a huge fan of Connelly and obviously overrated him a bit but it still stings that the Giants let him go especially with Downs playing so poorly. It would make us all feel better if Tae Crowder is this year's Connelly. If he is a solid player then the Giants are in good shape inside. Landing a starting caliber LB in round 7 would be a huge development and much needed with the current state of the franchise.

While Gettleman deserves plenty of blame for the state of the team at least he has proven to be a far better drafter on day three than his predecessor. I can't remember the last day three pick that Reese/Ross drafted that went on to become a solid contributor for the Giants.

Gettleman on the other hand has given us Darius Slayton, Julian Love, Darnay Holmes, Tae Crowder, Corey Ballentine, and Shane Lemieux. Obviously Crowder, Ballentine, Lemieux, and Holmes need to prove themselves but at least they have shown some promise at times which is far more than we can say about Reese's final 10 draft classes combined.
RE: Much more excited about our defense  
Jay on the Island : 10/7/2020 6:27 pm : link
In comment 14999737 5BowlsSoon said:
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Ryan Lewis and Tae Crowder and maybe even Madre...they all add speed and aggressiveness we have lacked. Get McKinney back and who knows?

Oh, BLAKE is a beast!

If the Giants add a premier pass rusher in the draft such as Greg Rousseau the defense could be a top 5 defense. Bradberry, Lawrence, and Martinez are having pro bowl caliber seasons. Then you add in promising young players in Lorenzo Carter, Xavier McKinney, Dalvin Tomlinson, Oshane Ximines, Austin Johnson, and Darnay Holmes and there is some hope for the future. Tae Crowder, Ryan Lewis, and BJ Hill have flashed as well.

Now the Giants have a difficult decision to make on the DL. Dalvin Tomlinson, Leonard Williams, and Austin Johnson are FA's at the end of the season. Personally I would try to trade Williams and Tomlinson at the deadline if the price was right. First offer an extension to both and if they turn it down then make a deal.

Austin Johnson has been a pleasant surprise so far. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if the Giants give him a modest extension and he enters next season as a starting DE if both Tomlinson and Williams are gone. Obviously the Giants would need to add a player or two there to compete with him.
Top 10 defense  
Jay on the Island : 10/7/2020 6:28 pm : link
not top 5. I'm not that hopeful lol
Youth  
Dragon : 10/8/2020 1:05 am : link
Get these guys on the field of play watching from the sidelines does them or the team no good.
top 10  
Simms : 10/8/2020 9:21 am : link
Since Eli was drafted to date how many top ten defense's have we had ..... reaching no ?
Nice to read  
Harvest Blend : 10/8/2020 9:36 am : link
something positive for a change.

Really hope Judge keeps getting as many young guys real game experience as possible as the year goes on. Evaluation is really the only thing this year is good for.

And that's not completely a bad thing, especially when covid could screw it all up at any time.
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