The Jets will finish with the worst record in the NFL and will select Trevor Lawrence. The Giants will be sucking Jets exhaust for the next ten years as the Jets build a roster to complement Lawrence and the Giants continue to resemble the teams coached by Alex Webster, Bill Arnsparger, and John McVay. If anybody knows of a scenario that will prevent this nightmare, I'd love to hear it.
I also read that the Jets would be better than the Giants for decades when Rex Ryan was the head coach.
So whatever. I actually have some faith in Judge. I think he can turn it around.
Geo - I certainly get where you’re coming from - there’s still some time things to work out.
I really do not care....about other teams.,..just need the Giants to improve.....
Jones must be the guy.
The OL must settle into a superior unit.
Defense must become a force.
I don’t want Giants getting Lawrence. I want this team winning a few games, the OL gelling, and Jones playing better as a result.
What you seem to be implying is that the NFL is either going to fix the games to ensure that ATL will lose enough to finish with the worst record or convince the Falcon's new GM, HC and enough key players that they have to try not to win the rest of the year for the long-term good of the team...even though it would be detrimental to their own careers.
For the NFL to try to fix games they would have to pay off not just one or two refs, but at least one ref for every game that Atlanta played.
It wouldn't be that easy because these refs are professional people with business reputations at stake. If they got caught taking an NFL bribe they'd be ruined professionally. Not to mention the fact that the more refs the NFL had to involve in this conspiracy, the higher the risk that one of them would eventually feel the need to come clean.
Perhaps you think that the interim HC (Morris) will purposely lose games and blow any chance he had at getting another HC gig or that he would instruct his players to play poorly and risk their own careers in order to get Lawrence? (Matt Ryan wouldn't exactly be down with that plan.)
And of course the NFL would not only risk their multi-billion dollar enterprise by fixing games, they would do so to ensure that Lawrence ended up playing in the 37th largest city in the US (Atlanta) rather than in NYC for the Giants or Jets.
If I misconstrued your post and you're NOT suggesting that the NFL is going to "fix" things to favor one team, please tell us what you meant.
And of course the NFL would not only risk their multi-billion dollar enterprise by fixing games, they would do so to ensure that Lawrence ended up playing in the 37th largest city in the US (Atlanta) rather than in NYC for the Giants or Jets.
That's the real issue with his argument. Fixing games aside, in what world is any team from ATL more marketable than either the Jets or the Giants? Having at least one good team in the most densely populated, largest metropolitan area in the country is several orders of magnitude more beneficial than having one in Atlanta.
The only way the Jets don't finish with the #1 pick and QB T. Lawrence, is a MIRACLE. I mean that....
Now, we have stayed fairly healthy. I mean, losing Barkley was a huge blow to the offense and is why we are #2 worst instead of say 5th or 6th worst (not kidding), but if we were hit with injuries to the OL and say Bradberry we are dead meat.
I have been saying that with the #2 pick, I think someone will want QB Field and will trade with us. We have so many holes that we must be sure we have a solid GM & FO & Scouting staff to go along with solid Judge to make the right picks; the right purges of players who don't fit; and, the signing of the right UFA's.
Our rebuild starts in 2021 and Jones will be the centerpiece we don't need to worry about. He will establish himself as the OL continues to develop and gel, giving him that .25 - .5 seconds more to hit his passes to the open man. He is literally under FIRE every play so it is hard to figure things out and judge him.
We would also benefit greatly if we knoew by season's end that we had our starting 2021 oL in place:
Thomas-Hernandez-Gates-Lemiuex-Peart - with K. Smith improving as a blocker and short receiver.
Simply put, we lack top end offensive playmakers and we lack a pass rusher that scares anyone. No way we can play four solid quarters of football "week in, week out" and expect to win.
Washington 24-23 over Giants on last second FG.... sad but true.
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Things happen that helps the marketing of the NFL.
What you seem to be implying is that the NFL is either going to fix the games to ensure that ATL will lose enough to finish with the worst record or convince the Falcon's new GM, HC and enough key players that they have to try not to win the rest of the year for the long-term good of the team...even though it would be detrimental to their own careers.
For the NFL to try to fix games they would have to pay off not just one or two refs, but at least one ref for every game that Atlanta played.
It wouldn't be that easy because these refs are professional people with business reputations at stake. If they got caught taking an NFL bribe they'd be ruined professionally. Not to mention the fact that the more refs the NFL had to involve in this conspiracy, the higher the risk that one of them would eventually feel the need to come clean.
Perhaps you think that the interim HC (Morris) will purposely lose games and blow any chance he had at getting another HC gig or that he would instruct his players to play poorly and risk their own careers in order to get Lawrence? (Matt Ryan wouldn't exactly be down with that plan.)
And of course the NFL would not only risk their multi-billion dollar enterprise by fixing games, they would do so to ensure that Lawrence ended up playing in the 37th largest city in the US (Atlanta) rather than in NYC for the Giants or Jets.
If I misconstrued your post and you're NOT suggesting that the NFL is going to "fix" things to favor one team, please tell us what you meant.
The State rests its case, your honor. Jim, if I ever need a lawyer, can I call you?
Probably an anomaly in the COVID year, but the bad teams are really bad this year and linemakers have adjusted spreads upwards more than any I remember ever.
Due to how bad our division is. Wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t even finish with a top 5 pick.
[quote] stop thinking stupid thoughts and you won't have that nightmare. [/
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Probably an anomaly in the COVID year, but the bad teams are really bad this year and linemakers have adjusted spreads upwards more than any I remember ever.
Due to how bad our division is. Wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t even finish with a top 5 pick.
The Vikings are waaaaay better than we are. Have you even watched them?
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Things happen that helps the marketing of the NFL.
What you seem to be implying is that the NFL is either going to fix the games to ensure that ATL will lose enough to finish with the worst record or convince the Falcon's new GM, HC and enough key players that they have to try not to win the rest of the year for the long-term good of the team...even though it would be detrimental to their own careers.
For the NFL to try to fix games they would have to pay off not just one or two refs, but at least one ref for every game that Atlanta played.
It wouldn't be that easy because these refs are professional people with business reputations at stake. If they got caught taking an NFL bribe they'd be ruined professionally. Not to mention the fact that the more refs the NFL had to involve in this conspiracy, the higher the risk that one of them would eventually feel the need to come clean.
Perhaps you think that the interim HC (Morris) will purposely lose games and blow any chance he had at getting another HC gig or that he would instruct his players to play poorly and risk their own careers in order to get Lawrence? (Matt Ryan wouldn't exactly be down with that plan.)
And of course the NFL would not only risk their multi-billion dollar enterprise by fixing games, they would do so to ensure that Lawrence ended up playing in the 37th largest city in the US (Atlanta) rather than in NYC for the Giants or Jets.
If I misconstrued your post and you're NOT suggesting that the NFL is going to "fix" things to favor one team, please tell us what you meant.
The State rests its case, your honor. Jim, if I ever need a lawyer, can I call you?
Probably this wpuld have been the end of Jim in Tampa's rant.
Wish he could've read the rest of the post in this voice - ( New Window )
The only way the Jets don't finish with the #1 pick and QB T. Lawrence, is a MIRACLE. I mean that....
Now, we have stayed fairly healthy. I mean, losing Barkley was a huge blow to the offense and is why we are #2 worst instead of say 5th or 6th worst (not kidding), but if we were hit with injuries to the OL and say Bradberry we are dead meat.
I have been saying that with the #2 pick, I think someone will want QB Field and will trade with us. We have so many holes that we must be sure we have a solid GM & FO & Scouting staff to go along with solid Judge to make the right picks; the right purges of players who don't fit; and, the signing of the right UFA's.
Our rebuild starts in 2021 and Jones will be the centerpiece we don't need to worry about. He will establish himself as the OL continues to develop and gel, giving him that .25 - .5 seconds more to hit his passes to the open man. He is literally under FIRE every play so it is hard to figure things out and judge him.
We would also benefit greatly if we knoew by season's end that we had our starting 2021 oL in place:
Thomas-Hernandez-Gates-Lemiuex-Peart - with K. Smith improving as a blocker and short receiver.
Simply put, we lack top end offensive playmakers and we lack a pass rusher that scares anyone. No way we can play four solid quarters of football "week in, week out" and expect to win.
Washington 24-23 over Giants on last second FG.... sad but true.
Atlanta would beat us by 2 TDs.
Lawrence will because waste with either NY team until either can accumulate talent and put a decent team together.