Good to see that our last tie to our glory year is starting for a contender and after five games is leading the defense with four sacks and two forced fumbles.
In 31 games with the Bucs he has produced 25 sacks and five forced fumbles.
But more important than his play, he has grown into a man. A married and responsible father, who stayed late after training camp to work with the younger players and who aggravated other players when he called them out to play harder and never to be satisfied with losing.
His greatest accomplishment was probably last season when he rehabbed himself from an off season broken neck that was supposed to cost him the season. He returned in time to play 10 games and chalk up 8.5 sacks.
Although he will never make it into the HOF, as seemed possible after his first three seasons with the Giants, he has put the firecracker incident behind him.
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One of the best and biggest regular season wins.
He had such physical talent and it looked like the sky was the limit. Then he blew off his hand and over the next few seasons the Giants became the worst team in football
Glad he is doing well and wish him the best. Integral player in Giants' history and a Super Bowl champ.
Don't you remember the noise on BBI about getting rid of JPP because he could not tackle with that hand? I remember.
How about the CAP hit and the need for CAP relief?
The one car accident indicates he isn’t beyond doing stupid things.
Hakeem drafted in 2009, JPP 2010. What should have been two repeat pro bowlers and HOF potential players who played enormous roles in 2011....what a shame.
I think that once this idea got into his head, this team started downhill.
The one car accident indicates he isn’t beyond doing stupid things.
Prince Amukamara would likely disagree with you.
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He wasn’t a monster here, actually a really good guy who occasionally did boneheaded things.
The one car accident indicates he isn’t beyond doing stupid things.
Prince Amukamara would likely disagree with you.
Turns out there was a little more to that story than originally reported!
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He wasn’t a monster here, actually a really good guy who occasionally did boneheaded things.
The one car accident indicates he isn’t beyond doing stupid things.
Prince Amukamara would likely disagree with you.
Turns out there was a little more to that story than originally reported!
Oh, what was the truth!?
Don't agree. There comes a point where a player just isn't working out anymore. JPP was being paid well and just wasn't producing here anymore. He looked jaded and needed to go.
DG hasn't reloaded well, that doesn't mean trading JPP was a bad decision.
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than he’s managed to acquire. He should be shown the door yesterday
Don't agree. There comes a point where a player just isn't working out anymore. JPP was being paid well and just wasn't producing here anymore. He looked jaded and needed to go.
DG hasn't reloaded well, that doesn't mean trading JPP was a bad decision.
He had 70 tackles and 8,5 sacks in his last year here.
He was still producing.
But he was laughing in the background during Eli’s presser about the benching so he had to go.
He wasn’t worth the money anymore. Maybe if we had a Judge then it would have been different. But we didn’t and he clearly needed a change of scenery. You can’t look at his recent production and think that would have magically happened here when it didn’t for 3 straight years prior.
Like I said earlier it could be both a good trade and a bad job finding his replacement. It’s ok to admit that.
Yeah we stink. Doesn’t mean the trade didn’t make sense.
Now they are everywhere, many contributing a fairly decent amount.
It’s a good point. With Vita Vea out it will be interesting to see how JPP fares the rest of the season.
It’s also why these kind of things are not always what they seem. On the 2019 and 2020 Giant teams I can almost guarantee he isn’t/wouldn’t be at double digit sacks. And that would be at $15m which wouldn’t be worth it. One could argue that money spent on JPP means no Blake Martinez (bigger impact and cheaper) or Bradberry (much bigger impact for roughly the same price).
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than he’s managed to acquire. He should be shown the door yesterday
Don't agree. There comes a point where a player just isn't working out anymore. JPP was being paid well and just wasn't producing here anymore. He looked jaded and needed to go.
DG hasn't reloaded well, that doesn't mean trading JPP was a bad decision.
I credit those posters who attempt to find the silver lining behind this hurricaine of destruction.
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Stacked. His disability is a lot less apparrnt because they have guys swarming to the ball. He found a good spot
It’s a good point. With Vita Vea out it will be interesting to see how JPP fares the rest of the season.
It’s also why these kind of things are not always what they seem. On the 2019 and 2020 Giant teams I can almost guarantee he isn’t/wouldn’t be at double digit sacks. And that would be at $15m which wouldn’t be worth it. One could argue that money spent on JPP means no Blake Martinez (bigger impact and cheaper) or Bradberry (much bigger impact for roughly the same price).
Anyway he most likely is still here if it were only a firecracker! He wouldn’t have lost a finger and half if it were a firecracker.
He wasn’t working here anymore, why is that so hard to fathom?
Again like Vernon he disappeared during crunch time
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LOFL!
JPP did produce here before the trade.
He’s producing in TB.
And, as he always has, he’s an excellent run defender.
He’s also doing it from several positions right now. Stand up OLB and hand in the ground DE.
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He wasn’t a monster here, actually a really good guy who occasionally did boneheaded things.
The one car accident indicates he isn’t beyond doing stupid things.
Prince Amukamara would likely disagree with you.
Turns out there was a little more to that story than originally reported!
I would like more clarification on this as well.
Especially when you know how to handle yourself with a mop handle.
He wasn’t working here anymore, why is that so hard to fathom?
You mean like the money they threw at Solder and Tate? How is the money spent on those guys going?
He's always been productive, but there's a lot of self-inflicted damage to that body. Don't expect him to still be playing at age 35.
Should he have been traded? A pointless argument. The mistake was hiring Gettleman. Analysing every move Gettleman made on his way to making the Giants the worst team in the NFL gets you nowhere.
If you haven’t gotten that through your head yet you never will.
I also appreciate you quoting JPP stats from last year. Tell me again what he did the last 3 years as a giant? He was no longer worth what we were paying him.
JPP was productive in his last two seasons. In 28 games he had 15 sacks, 4 forced fumbles and 13 passes batted away at the line of scrimmage. Batting a pass away doesn't get you the lost yardage of a sack, but it prevents the pass from being caught.
He may have been overpaid. Some players at a given time are overpaid and some underpaid. The object of the game is not to have the most underpaid players, but to win games so you're not the worst team in football.
But not saying that keeping JPP would have made any difference. We so much turnover on the team from the 2016 playoff team, one player wouldn't have made any difference.