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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/18/2020 4:00 pm
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It was 1st and goal from the 7  
glowrider : 10/18/2020 4:40 pm : link
According to nfl.com. Still think throwaway is appropriate, and wasn’t executed as intended.
RE: So much talk about the interception being a bad call  
Bill L : 10/18/2020 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15012857 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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the issue is the decision to throw that, not the resulting call.

It should never have been put in the hands of the referee to decide.

I don’t think anyone questions that. BUt it still doesn’t change the truth of what it was. I can understand why you would choose to discount that, but I think for many you can still criticize the decision while still recognizing the fact of it.
A lot of fans still haven't realized just  
eclipz928 : 10/18/2020 4:41 pm : link
how bad this team is. The #1 pick next year was viable because these two games against Washington are realistically the only games they could be expected to win.

There's a strong possibility that we may come back in 10 weeks from now and find that stopping that 2 point conversion cost this team the #1 pick in the draft.
RE: RE: So much talk about the interception being a bad call  
giantstock : 10/18/2020 4:42 pm : link
In comment 15012885 glowrider said:
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In comment 15012857 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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the issue is the decision to throw that, not the resulting call.

It should never have been put in the hands of the referee to decide.



He should’ve eaten a sack? Throw away wasn’t the problem, it was a good decision. Tough throw, bad luck in the call. But the decision seemed fine.


You mean with someone in his face as he is backpedalling- he is supposed to try to throw the ball towards the back on the end zone out of bounds instead of throwing it to sideline out of bounds or on the ground.

Fact is we don't know for sure- it looked like a throwaway - but it was also another incredibly stupid thing to do as he is backing up. You mean for all the football he has played in his life he is too stupid to realize that backing up and a guy in his face that it might not be a god idea to chuck it straight?
Judge just said  
ryanmkeane : 10/18/2020 4:43 pm : link
Thomas violated a team policy
RE: Almost forgot  
Bill L : 10/18/2020 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15012937 Go Terps said:
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Congrats to Gettleman for finally getting to 10 wins.

And who says you can’t be gracious?
Thomas benched for disciplinary reasons  
jeff57 : 10/18/2020 4:44 pm : link
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RE: RE: Some of the most miserable fans...  
D_Giants : 10/18/2020 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15012828 joeinpa said:
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showing up in the game thread. Rooting for a loss this early in the season.

You all suck...and you know who you are.



I just looked there. Unbelievable, how anyone can put as their main concern in week 6 with the # 1 pick 😂

Good way to set yourself up for disappointment


Giants fans ARE miserable. We have been watching miserable football for the better part of a decade. Our team sucks and it has been sucking for some time. It is astounding how ownership could be this clueless. At 1-5, with our only win against a 1-4 team (that we have a ‘right’ to beat, lol) we will be lucky to go 3-13. These years are worse than the 60s and 70s. Winning %s keep dropping 5-11, 4-12. Wishing they were good doen’t alter the reality that G-Man has created.
Cant rewatch the play myself. I’m sure someone can  
glowrider : 10/18/2020 4:45 pm : link
And will be able to see if he actually could have thrown to sideline. I defer to dvrs but it didn’t strike me as a decision issue.
RE: RE: RE: Some of the most miserable fans...  
Bill L : 10/18/2020 4:46 pm : link
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showing up in the game thread. Rooting for a loss this early in the season.

You all suck...and you know who you are.



I just looked there. Unbelievable, how anyone can put as their main concern in week 6 with the # 1 pick 😂

Good way to set yourself up for disappointment



Giants fans ARE miserable. We have been watching miserable football for the better part of a decade. Our team sucks and it has been sucking for some time. It is astounding how ownership could be this clueless. At 1-5, with our only win against a 1-4 team (that we have a ‘right’ to beat, lol) we will be lucky to go 3-13. These years are worse than the 60s and 70s. Winning %s keep dropping 5-11, 4-12. Wishing they were good doen’t alter the reality that G-Man has created.

They were miserable in the SB winning season. It absolutely is a bad team (currently) and their fans are worse (perpetually).
RE: Almost forgot  
mphbullet36 : 10/18/2020 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15012937 Go Terps said:
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Congrats to Gettleman for finally getting to 10 wins.


I feel like half of them are against the hapless washington football team
RE: A lot of fans still haven't realized just  
Scooter185 : 10/18/2020 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15012948 eclipz928 said:
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how bad this team is. The #1 pick next year was viable because these two games against Washington are realistically the only games they could be expected to win.

There's a strong possibility that we may come back in 10 weeks from now and find that stopping that 2 point conversion cost this team the #1 pick in the draft.


+1
RE: RE: RE: RE: Some of the most miserable fans...  
D_Giants : 10/18/2020 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15012976 Bill L said:
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showing up in the game thread. Rooting for a loss this early in the season.

You all suck...and you know who you are.



I just looked there. Unbelievable, how anyone can put as their main concern in week 6 with the # 1 pick 😂

Good way to set yourself up for disappointment



Giants fans ARE miserable. We have been watching miserable football for the better part of a decade. Our team sucks and it has been sucking for some time. It is astounding how ownership could be this clueless. At 1-5, with our only win against a 1-4 team (that we have a ‘right’ to beat, lol) we will be lucky to go 3-13. These years are worse than the 60s and 70s. Winning %s keep dropping 5-11, 4-12. Wishing they were good doen’t alter the reality that G-Man has created.


They were miserable in the SB winning season. It absolutely is a bad team (currently) and their fans are worse (perpetually).


SB years were not like this. I dont know how you compare who is ‘worse.’
RE: RE: Almost forgot  
glowrider : 10/18/2020 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15012987 mphbullet36 said:
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Congrats to Gettleman for finally getting to 10 wins.



I feel like half of them are against the hapless washington football team


40% to be accurate.
Considering “fans” is a misnomer  
Bill L : 10/18/2020 4:50 pm : link
I have a decent idea.
RE: RE: RE: Almost forgot  
Bill L : 10/18/2020 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15012993 glowrider said:
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Congrats to Gettleman for finally getting to 10 wins.



I feel like half of them are against the hapless washington football team



40% to be accurate.


I really think that Thursday’s game will be fascinating. And perhaps telling in one way or the other.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Some of the most miserable fans...  
EricJ : 10/18/2020 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15012991 D_Giants said:
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showing up in the game thread. Rooting for a loss this early in the season.

You all suck...and you know who you are.



I just looked there. Unbelievable, how anyone can put as their main concern in week 6 with the # 1 pick 😂

Good way to set yourself up for disappointment



Giants fans ARE miserable. We have been watching miserable football for the better part of a decade. Our team sucks and it has been sucking for some time. It is astounding how ownership could be this clueless. At 1-5, with our only win against a 1-4 team (that we have a ‘right’ to beat, lol) we will be lucky to go 3-13. These years are worse than the 60s and 70s. Winning %s keep dropping 5-11, 4-12. Wishing they were good doen’t alter the reality that G-Man has created.


They were miserable in the SB winning season. It absolutely is a bad team (currently) and their fans are worse (perpetually).



SB years were not like this. I dont know how you compare who is ‘worse.’


Of course our teams were better than this team during the Superbowl seasons. However, I can recall fans here in the middle of the 2007 season giving up.
The INT  
Spider43 : 10/18/2020 4:55 pm : link
DJ was just getting rid of the ball, IMHO. The problem on that particular play, aside from the bad mechanics (throwing off balance and off his back foot), is his arm strength. So he's got to be even more careful than your average QB out there.
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David Dooley : 10/18/2020 4:58 pm : link
I’m confused why you guys were so angry at the guy saying the team and organization both suck. The team and organization have been pathetic for well over 7 years now. Just because we are Giants fans doesn’t mean we have to blindly view the status of the team and organization. It’s bad, really bad. That’s the reality.
RE: So much talk about the interception being a bad call  
fuzzy : 10/18/2020 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15012857 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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the issue is the decision to throw that, not the resulting call.

It should never have been put in the hands of the referee to decide.


This. I though he was trying to get rid of it. Got to put it out of play.
If nothing else this gets me pumped for Thursday  
Blue Dream : 10/18/2020 4:58 pm : link
Very winnable. Just don't let Boston Scott beat you
RE: The INT  
giantstock : 10/18/2020 4:59 pm : link
In comment 15013021 Spider43 said:
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DJ was just getting rid of the ball, IMHO. The problem on that particular play, aside from the bad mechanics (throwing off balance and off his back foot), is his arm strength. So he's got to be even more careful than your average QB out there.


Yes!!!

I get the feeling some just want to excuse what you just posted though. Just unwilling to be critical of DJ in much manner.
Gotta start evaluating Jones to Trey Lance and Fields until the NYG  
The_Boss : 10/18/2020 5:00 pm : link
lose themselves back into the TL race (which can still happen). It's becoming more evident by the week that Jones probably isnt't the guy moving forward.
RE: RE: Two incompetent offenses...only one could lose  
PepperJ52 : 10/18/2020 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15012778 Amazinz said:
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And it wasn't us.

So...hooray, I guess.

“Fuck off” is a tad strong but I have to say I’m kind of surprised by sarcasm from an admin after a much needed win. But we’re all a little frayed. Me personally, I’m celebrating a Giants win.



The fact that you're an admin speaks volumes this site.

Fuck off.
RE: Peary should be the LT  
Giant4Life : 10/18/2020 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15012758 GoDeep13 said:
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From now on. Looked MUCH better than Thomas.

Peart should play LT and start giving Thomas reps at RT.
On the Washington failed 2 point conversion  
GeofromNJ : 10/18/2020 5:04 pm : link
Blake Martinez wisely ran into receiver Antonio Gibson and knocked him down. I think Gibson was Allen's target, but because he was in front of Martinez and not five yards beyond the line of scrimmage, the knockdown was legal.
RE: Gotta start evaluating Jones to Trey Lance and Fields until the NYG  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2020 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15013039 The_Boss said:
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lose themselves back into the TL race (which can still happen). It's becoming more evident by the week that Jones probably isnt't the guy moving forward.


I wouldn’t think twice about taking Fields. He’s better than Jones. Lance is the question mark and id rather have Waddle or chase at 3 or 4
Congrats to the Judge!  
trueblueinpw : 10/18/2020 5:06 pm : link
You never forget your first win as a head coach or your first win in the NFL. If there’s anything to be optimistic about with the Giants it’s the possibility that Judge might be a legit HC.
Don’t understand the criticism of Jones on the interception  
BillT : 10/18/2020 5:09 pm : link
He was throwing it away, Chase Young hit him as he threw (go look at the replay) and the interception was caught out of bounds. But Jones is the problem. Got it.
It’s a win but Giants should try to petition the league office  
LBH15 : 10/18/2020 5:12 pm : link
to not have it count against us with respect to draft position.

Worth a try.
RE: Don’t understand the criticism of Jones on the interception  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2020 5:12 pm : link
In comment 15013071 BillT said:
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He was throwing it away, Chase Young hit him as he threw (go look at the replay) and the interception was caught out of bounds. But Jones is the problem. Got it.



I don't think that's a throwaway at all  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2020 5:13 pm : link
He was trying for Slayton.
his arm doesn't get hit  
bc4life : 10/18/2020 5:15 pm : link
that ball is clearly heading out of bounds
RE: RE: Some of the most miserable fans...  
jvm52106 : 10/18/2020 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15012932 Scooter185 said:
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showing up in the game thread. Rooting for a loss this early in the season.

You all suck...and you know who you are.



Because winning 1-4 games is pointless mediocrity. Much better to be the worst in the league than it is to be meh. Meh breeds meh, at least being awful will get the team top talent in the draft*

*If it's not Gettleman picking


I don't feel that way. Rooting to lose is pathetic!
RE: I don't think that's a throwaway at all  
BillT : 10/18/2020 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15013083 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He was trying for Slayton.

He was throwing it away. That was obvious in real time. It was defected that was obvious in real time as well. And that it was caught out of bounds was blatantly obvious.
Come on bill. That ball's not deflected.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2020 5:17 pm : link
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RE: Come on bill. That ball's not deflected.  
BillT : 10/18/2020 5:18 pm : link
In comment 15013094 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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His arm was hit on the throw. The ball came out like a wounded duck.
What 'obvious deflected ball' spirals like a clean pass  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2020 5:19 pm : link
Congrats to Judge.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/18/2020 5:19 pm : link
But this is still an awful, awful football team devoid of talent all over the roster.
That’s the last 10% of the throw  
BillT : 10/18/2020 5:21 pm : link
It floated like it was full of helium.
Jones  
Professor Falken : 10/18/2020 5:21 pm : link
Paul Schwartz
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Daniel Jones on the interception: “Trying to throw the ball away and didn’t get enough on it.”
RE: I don't think that's a throwaway at all  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/18/2020 5:21 pm : link
In comment 15013083 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He was trying for Slayton.


This may be true. It's hard to tell but it looks like Slayton cuts in to pylon as opposed to back of end zone there. Curious what the all 22 will say there.
RE: How can you be happy with this win??  
Jim in Tampa : 10/18/2020 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15012941 prdave73 said:
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Washington gave up the game probably for the 1st rd choice in the draft lol Can you make it anymore blatant??! No coach would have gone for 2?! Complete joke...

One can certainly questions Rivera's decision to go for 2 in that spot, especially given the ineptitude of the Giants' O.

But if you think ANY NFL HC with a 1-4 record (in the NFL East no less with a soft schedule in the next 4 or 5 games) is trying to lose just to get the top pick in the draft... I don't know what to tell you.

Head coaches and players play to win the game. (Hello!)
re: the int  
bc4life : 10/18/2020 5:22 pm : link
looked like his elbow barely hit in bounds
RE: Congrats to Judge.  
BillT : 10/18/2020 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15013102 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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But this is still an awful, awful football team devoid of talent all over the roster.

And I couldn’t agree with this more. Worst offensive talent in the league.
RE: re: the int  
BillT : 10/18/2020 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15013114 bc4life said:
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looked like his elbow barely hit in bounds

His elbow hit out of bounds and that isn’t hard to see. Obvious even in real time.
Look, a win is a win  
Matt M. : 10/18/2020 5:30 pm : link
I am happy for the team and for Judge. In Judge and his staff, I truly believe we have a solid base to move forward. That said, this is still a terrible team and difficult to watch.

While I love finally seeing a win, and at home, I am not happy we barely squeaked by one of the few teams either as bad or worse than us. And they more lost that game with the decision to go for 2 than we won.

So, it's great that we won. But, I don't feel great about it.
RE: RE: re: the int  
uther99 : 10/18/2020 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15013120 BillT said:
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looked like his elbow barely hit in bounds


His elbow hit out of bounds and that isn’t hard to see. Obvious even in real time.


agreed, horrible call
RE: I don't think that's a throwaway at all  
PatersonPlank : 10/18/2020 5:38 pm : link
In comment 15013083 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He was trying for Slayton.


I think he was throwing it away.
RE: Redskins lost  
Red Right Hand : 10/18/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15012744 mphbullet36 said:
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Giants did nothing to win outside of picking up a fumble
And what was it they needed to do outside of picking up a fumble to win? Your wrong BTW, they outscored the WFT.Thats what they did to win. You can pretend they didnt, but they did.

Somehow defensive scores don't count where you are from.
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