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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/18/2020 4:00 pm
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RE: A lot of fans still haven't realized just  
Red Right Hand : 10/18/2020 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15012948 eclipz928 said:
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how bad this team is. The #1 pick next year was viable because these two games against Washington are realistically the only games they could be expected to win.

There's a strong possibility that we may come back in 10 weeks from now and find that stopping that 2 point conversion cost this team the #1 pick in the draft.
What a fucking drip, and what a morbid mindset, but at least it must be comforting to know you have your spring draft bitching all planned out. Nice to be prepared!!!
Biggest positive of the day: Matt Peart  
BigBlueNH : 10/18/2020 5:51 pm : link
playing a competent LT against a strong front. Regardless of what happens with Thomas, having Peart as a reliable starter on this line for the foreseeable future would be huge.
Eric- I already have you credit  
Dave on the UWS : 10/18/2020 5:54 pm : link
earlier, no gloating for your prescience.
Biggest issue I see is they may have blown the # 6 and 4 picks in consecutive drafts. Lombardi couldn’t win with that happening.
RE: I don't think that's a throwaway at all  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 10/18/2020 6:08 pm : link
In comment 15013083 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He was trying for Slayton.


I disagree. He's trying to throw it out of the end zone.
What a stupid debate this is  
LG in NYC : 10/18/2020 6:14 pm : link
It’s obvious he was trying to throw it away. He said he was trying to throw it away.
He was rushed and falling backwards, made a bad throw in that it wasn’t far enough. Not a bad decision. And oh by the way, the defensive back was out of bounds. Bad job by refs

So outside of the bogus interception, what exactly are people upset about with Jones today?
RE: RE: Come on bill. That ball's not deflected.  
chopperhatch : 10/18/2020 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15013098 BillT said:
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His arm was hit on the throw. The ball came out like a wounded duck.


I am one of the biggest Jones defenders...that was a bad attempt at a throw away.
RE: That’s the last 10% of the throw  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2020 6:19 pm : link
In comment 15013106 BillT said:
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It floated like it was full of helium.


It floated like a duck and then turned into a spiral? Didn’t know Jones could defy physics
RE: How can the Giants celebrate that win?  
uconngiant : 10/18/2020 6:19 pm : link
In comment 15012671 US1 Giants said:
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awful football team.


Suck it you miserable bastard
Enough with the “WASH lost more than Giants won” bullshit.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/18/2020 6:20 pm : link
They got a horrendous call on their interception and the clock was at 00 for two seconds on their TD.

I’m sorry but Jason Garrett needs to really get this shit turned around. Jones threw 5 TDs the last time he faced these guys and now it’s a struggle for just 1. Outside of Jones’ rushing yards, they didn’t do jackshit on the ground again. Outside of the TD, the ball never goes down the field. Outside of the first play, Jones is never moved on passing plays.

While having ANY of the Giants TEs block Chase Young is submoronic, Jones has to get the ball out of the end zone if he’s throwing it away. Just has to get it done.

Special teams cost them points and the defense was pretty much shit outside of Bradberry and Ryan. Williams was okay. I like Jones more than most, but I’m going to be really pissed if the Jets or WASH gets Trevor Lawrence.
If people want to be happy about this win  
NoGainDayne : 10/18/2020 6:22 pm : link
all the power to you.

I saw a team get completely owned on time of possession with the game on the line and a re-tread backup QB jam it down their throats in what should have tied the game up.

That’s not the kind of win I want to lose Trevor Lawrence for and the game last year wasn’t the kind of win I would lose out on Chase Young for.

If they can build on this great. I doubt they will though
I give Jones credit for playing with this awful offense but  
LBH15 : 10/18/2020 6:23 pm : link
would like to see him process a bit faster. Fairly sure that was a throw away but he could have taken off left with his feet, or thrown it a second earlier to avoid the pressure.

He can’t stop these turnovers around the end zone no matter what he does...real killers.
A few other things  
Matt M. : 10/18/2020 6:28 pm : link
One, I thought it was a good call on the INT. Live, it looked good. Replay, to me, was inconclusive. That was a costly and stupid turnover from Jones. For me, I don't want to hear about what a clean game he played except for that play, because that play was almost the game for them. If it was an isolated play, that's one thing. But, it is becoming a problematic trend.

Two, on the other hand, I thought the spot the WFT challenged should have been upheld. To me, it looked like his hip was down before the ball was extended. At the every least, it was not conclusive enough to overturn the call on the field. If there wasn't enough to overturn the INT call earlier, then how was this replay conclusive enough?
Three, I still have a big problem with this D. The fumble for a TD was huge. But, they followed that up by allowing Washington to go right down the field for a TD. Every game has seen them give up at least 1 scoring drive in the second half of the 4th quarter.

That said, there were a lot of areas of improvement also. It was nice to see a running game starting to develop. Freeman is rounding into shape. It was also nice to see some designed runs and RPO for Jones. He had a big impact with his legs.

RE: If people want to be happy about this win  
The_Boss : 10/18/2020 6:29 pm : link
In comment 15013286 NoGainDayne said:
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all the power to you.

I saw a team get completely owned on time of possession with the game on the line and a re-tread backup QB jam it down their throats in what should have tied the game up.

That’s not the kind of win I want to lose Trevor Lawrence for and the game last year wasn’t the kind of win I would lose out on Chase Young for.

If they can build on this great. I doubt they will though


Gotta hope the Redskins can at worst split with the Lions and Bengals the next 2 games for them. BUT most important, the Jets have to get a win somewhere along the way. This race isn't over yet. The NYG have to lose the next time they meet up in DC with this team though.
Matt M  
LG in NYC : 10/18/2020 6:31 pm : link
You are wrong on both

INT bad call

Spot reversal good call

Get a better TV!
RE: RE: RE: Some of the most miserable fans...  
Scooter185 : 10/18/2020 6:32 pm : link
In comment 15013091 jvm52106 said:
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showing up in the game thread. Rooting for a loss this early in the season.

You all suck...and you know who you are.



Because winning 1-4 games is pointless mediocrity. Much better to be the worst in the league than it is to be meh. Meh breeds meh, at least being awful will get the team top talent in the draft*

*If it's not Gettleman picking



I don't feel that way. Rooting to lose is pathetic!


I've rooted for the Yankees and Bruins to lose in the past. They did, and both became better teams because of it. While neither were bottom of the league bad, they made necessary changes to bring them back to prominence and become playoff contenders.

4 wins for NYG just keeps this cycle of suck going
The issue with Jones is he doesn’t  
Dave on the UWS : 10/18/2020 6:33 pm : link
make his decisions quickly enough. He needed to throw the ball in the stands a split second earlier. THAT is becoming common place. It’s decision making that makes or breaks QBs in the NFL . I have severe doubts at this point.
RE: The issue with Jones is he doesn’t  
cjac : 10/18/2020 6:36 pm : link
In comment 15013310 Dave on the UWS said:
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make his decisions quickly enough. He needed to throw the ball in the stands a split second earlier. THAT is becoming common place. It’s decision making that makes or breaks QBs in the NFL . I have severe doubts at this point.


With the whole new staff and system and Covid, you could argue this is his rookie year.
He definitely needs to make some decisions quicker  
LG in NYC : 10/18/2020 6:38 pm : link
But I definitely like his eyes downfield, aggressive attitude.

He is always trying to make something happen
Am I nuts  
JesseS : 10/18/2020 6:52 pm : link
for thinking Freeman simply runs smoother and picks better spots than Saquon does? Barkley's athleticism is off the charts, but Freeman is playing with the same team as Saquon and just looks better. Or maybe he's just better at making more of out of less?
RE: Am I nuts  
crick n NC : 10/18/2020 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15013355 JesseS said:
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for thinking Freeman simply runs smoother and picks better spots than Saquon does? Barkley's athleticism is off the charts, but Freeman is playing with the same team as Saquon and just looks better. Or maybe he's just better at making more of out of less?


I am considering that perhaps the line may be blocking better, and or teams aren't selling out to stop the run without a legit threat in the backfield.
Interested to see Sy’s  
ryanmkeane : 10/18/2020 7:06 pm : link
review, from my untrained eye it seemed Gates and Hernandez had their best games of the season
RE: The issue with Jones is he doesn’t  
jvm52106 : 10/18/2020 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15013310 Dave on the UWS said:
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make his decisions quickly enough. He needed to throw the ball in the stands a split second earlier. THAT is becoming common place. It’s decision making that makes or breaks QBs in the NFL . I have severe doubts at this point.


So he is supposed to lnow Smith will completely fail in pass pro... Come on guys. We have no WR's outside of a limping Slayton.
Peart is a bomafide left tackle  
MartyNJ1969 : 10/18/2020 7:10 pm : link
Move Thomas to RT
RE: RE: The issue with Jones is he doesn’t  
Matt M. : 10/18/2020 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15013389 jvm52106 said:
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make his decisions quickly enough. He needed to throw the ball in the stands a split second earlier. THAT is becoming common place. It’s decision making that makes or breaks QBs in the NFL . I have severe doubts at this point.



So he is supposed to lnow Smith will completely fail in pass pro... Come on guys. We have no WR's outside of a limping Slayton.
The point is on that play, it doesn't matter who the WRs are or who the OL is. There was nothing there and he needed to throw it away. So, he either made a bad attempt to throw that out of the end zone or an even worse decision and throw if he was trying to hit a WR. That ball needed to go over someone's head on the sideline, or well out of the end zone. A worst case scenario should have been tuck the ball.
RE: RE: Am I nuts  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/18/2020 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15013379 crick n NC said:
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for thinking Freeman simply runs smoother and picks better spots than Saquon does? Barkley's athleticism is off the charts, but Freeman is playing with the same team as Saquon and just looks better. Or maybe he's just better at making more of out of less?



I am considering that perhaps the line may be blocking better, and or teams aren't selling out to stop the run without a legit threat in the backfield.


While Freeman is more of a north-south runner, I think your second point is pertinent.
Two things on the INT  
Matt M. : 10/18/2020 7:17 pm : link
One, it was not deflected. Two, it was not clear that it was out of bounds. Personally, I thought he came down with his elbow a hair inside the end line. At best, it was questionable whether or not his elbow hit out of bounds. So, I have no problem with the review. As much as I would have liked to overturn the call, it wasn't conclusive.

As I stated elsewhere, I just want that same consistency on the other review. To me, it seemed Allen's hip was down before he got the ball extended for the first. The replay was in no way conclusive, so how did they overturn the spot on the field?
We aren't very good right now  
terptacular : 10/18/2020 7:19 pm : link
But we are getting better. We lack any real weapons on Offense. We will get Saquan back, but we need a WR threat.
On defense we need an edge and maybe another corner.

But I do think the lines are better. The offensive line is starting to minimize the plays were things get absolutely blown up. That has been a feature for years.

Obviously, if you get the chance to take Lawrence, you take him. But, I would prefer to see the team continue to improve and pick up a few wins along the way.
RE: What a stupid debate this is  
Matt M. : 10/18/2020 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15013264 LG in NYC said:
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It’s obvious he was trying to throw it away. He said he was trying to throw it away.
He was rushed and falling backwards, made a bad throw in that it wasn’t far enough. Not a bad decision. And oh by the way, the defensive back was out of bounds. Bad job by refs

So outside of the bogus interception, what exactly are people upset about with Jones today?
It still i.s a bad decision. Why not throw it over someone's head along the sidelines? If you are throwing that out of the end zone, you don't do it falling backwards off your back foot and if you do, you damn well better get it out of the fucking end zone.
If You’re Rooting for 0-16  
Samiam : 10/18/2020 7:22 pm : link
Or you’re rooting for the team to lose this early in the season. that’s your right and you can even call yourself a Giants fan. But, I don’t get why you feel the need to come on post on a Giants blog and be so public about it. Keep it to yourself. You all really sound like pathetic Jets fans. I remember a friend and his wife coming to my house for dinner and watch the Giants. The fucker knows I’m a die hard Giants fan living and dying with the team and he’s drinking my liquor and eating my food and loudly rooting against my team He was acting like a schmuck. Root for whoever you want or whatever you want but don’t come on BBI and spoil it for Giants fans who stick with the team through thick and thin. The problem is not where they draft but who does the drafting and and ownership must know by now a change is needed regardless of a few wins.
RE: RE: What a stupid debate this is  
Johnny5 : 10/18/2020 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15013412 Matt M. said:
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It’s obvious he was trying to throw it away. He said he was trying to throw it away.
He was rushed and falling backwards, made a bad throw in that it wasn’t far enough. Not a bad decision. And oh by the way, the defensive back was out of bounds. Bad job by refs

So outside of the bogus interception, what exactly are people upset about with Jones today?

It still i.s a bad decision. Why not throw it over someone's head along the sidelines? If you are throwing that out of the end zone, you don't do it falling backwards off your back foot and if you do, you damn well better get it out of the fucking end zone.

Jones said he was throwing it away there. That elbow hit out of bounds you can see the way the turf rubber pops up. He hit out of bounds. He let Young get to close and he had to throw it away falling backwards and he did not get enough on it. If anything to kill him on he should have thrown it away a split second sooner. Again I disagree that was intercepted that guy landed out of bounds.
RE: Jones  
SGMen : 10/18/2020 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15013108 Professor Falken said:
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Paul Schwartz
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Daniel Jones on the interception: “Trying to throw the ball away and didn’t get enough on it.”
That is exactly what I thought: not enough mustard on it.
We’re expecting too much from this offense  
EdS56 : 10/18/2020 7:41 pm : link
We can’t block for shit. If we can’t block we can’t do anything else.
But hell I say we just go fire Gettleman...
RE: If You’re Rooting for 0-16  
Gman11 : 10/18/2020 7:43 pm : link
In comment 15013417 Samiam said:
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Or you’re rooting for the team to lose this early in the season. that’s your right and you can even call yourself a Giants fan. But, I don’t get why you feel the need to come on post on a Giants blog and be so public about it. Keep it to yourself. You all really sound like pathetic Jets fans. I remember a friend and his wife coming to my house for dinner and watch the Giants. The fucker knows I’m a die hard Giants fan living and dying with the team and he’s drinking my liquor and eating my food and loudly rooting against my team He was acting like a schmuck. Root for whoever you want or whatever you want but don’t come on BBI and spoil it for Giants fans who stick with the team through thick and thin. The problem is not where they draft but who does the drafting and and ownership must know by now a change is needed regardless of a few wins.



Anybody rooting for the team to lose should go root for another team. Like one guy that played well in college is going to transform the team from 0-16 to Super Bowl champions.
That..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2020 7:50 pm : link
INT being upheld on replay flies in the face of the exact reason that Crowder's INT was overturned a couple weeks ago.

On Crowder's, no evidence showed a ball actually hitting the ground while on the INT today, the elbow clearly hits out of bounds. Replay's inconsistency is simply maddening.
RE: RE: If You’re Rooting for 0-16  
BlueVinnie : 10/18/2020 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15013468 Gman11 said:
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Or you’re rooting for the team to lose this early in the season. that’s your right and you can even call yourself a Giants fan. But, I don’t get why you feel the need to come on post on a Giants blog and be so public about it. Keep it to yourself. You all really sound like pathetic Jets fans. I remember a friend and his wife coming to my house for dinner and watch the Giants. The fucker knows I’m a die hard Giants fan living and dying with the team and he’s drinking my liquor and eating my food and loudly rooting against my team He was acting like a schmuck. Root for whoever you want or whatever you want but don’t come on BBI and spoil it for Giants fans who stick with the team through thick and thin. The problem is not where they draft but who does the drafting and and ownership must know by now a change is needed regardless of a few wins.




Anybody rooting for the team to lose should go root for another team. Like one guy that played well in college is going to transform the team from 0-16 to Super Bowl champions.


If you are lucky enough to draft a true franchise QB, yes that player can *help* you transform from 0-16 to a SB champion. It's obviously not going to happen in one year but I don't believe anyone that would support drafting Lawrence is delusional enough to think it would happen in one season.
RE: RE: What a stupid debate this is  
PatersonPlank : 10/18/2020 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15013412 Matt M. said:
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It’s obvious he was trying to throw it away. He said he was trying to throw it away.
He was rushed and falling backwards, made a bad throw in that it wasn’t far enough. Not a bad decision. And oh by the way, the defensive back was out of bounds. Bad job by refs

So outside of the bogus interception, what exactly are people upset about with Jones today?

It still i.s a bad decision. Why not throw it over someone's head along the sidelines? If you are throwing that out of the end zone, you don't do it falling backwards off your back foot and if you do, you damn well better get it out of the fucking end zone.


I think Slayton (I think it was Slayton) was the only receiver over there, so he had to throw it near him. No one was near the sideline, so just chucking it out there could have been grounding since he was in the pocket. He tried to throw it over Slayton out of bounds, but seemed to get hit when he did (which caused the ball to not get there)
I think the OL  
ryanmkeane : 10/18/2020 8:02 pm : link
did a solid job all day against Washington’s front which is good. That should be a key takeaway from today
RE: If people want to be happy about this win  
BigBlueShock : 10/18/2020 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15013286 NoGainDayne said:
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all the power to you.

I saw a team get completely owned on time of possession with the game on the line and a re-tread backup QB jam it down their throats in what should have tied the game up.

That’s not the kind of win I want to lose Trevor Lawrence for and the game last year wasn’t the kind of win I would lose out on Chase Young for.

If they can build on this great. I doubt they will though

For a guy that loves to stick his chest out and proclaim himself to anyone that will listen that he’s an “analytics expert”, I’d think you’d know that in today’s NFL that time of possession couldn’t be any more meaningless. You’re seriously using TOP in this day and age?

Please don’t send your resume in to Eric again because I questioned your knowledge. He’s got better things to do.
I guess nothing surprises me with officials  
ryanmkeane : 10/18/2020 8:07 pm : link
but I’m still genuinely shocked that they didn’t overturn that. It looked clear and obvious.

Really sucks for Jones to have that play overlook a solid day for him, bad decision either way.
One upside to Jones today...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2020 8:08 pm : link
was his running. Loved the designed runs.

It's a risky ploy, as Jones will be more and more exposed, but I like taking advantage of that skill in the short term...
RE: That..  
Matt M. : 10/18/2020 8:08 pm : link
In comment 15013484 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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INT being upheld on replay flies in the face of the exact reason that Crowder's INT was overturned a couple weeks ago.

On Crowder's, no evidence showed a ball actually hitting the ground while on the INT today, the elbow clearly hits out of bounds. Replay's inconsistency is simply maddening.
I disagree. I didn't think it was clear the his elbow landed in or out. Thus, do not overturn the call on the field. Last week was a whole other story. That call shouldn't have been overturned.

On the other hand, I thought the challenge should have failed. I don't think there was conclusive evidence that Allen got the ball extended prior to his hip hitting down.
RE: RE: That..  
BigBlueShock : 10/18/2020 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15013521 Matt M. said:
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INT being upheld on replay flies in the face of the exact reason that Crowder's INT was overturned a couple weeks ago.

On Crowder's, no evidence showed a ball actually hitting the ground while on the INT today, the elbow clearly hits out of bounds. Replay's inconsistency is simply maddening.

I disagree. I didn't think it was clear the his elbow landed in or out. Thus, do not overturn the call on the field. Last week was a whole other story. That call shouldn't have been overturned.

On the other hand, I thought the challenge should have failed. I don't think there was conclusive evidence that Allen got the ball extended prior to his hip hitting down.

The problem is that refs are being taught to let turnovers play out because they get reviewed anyways. So if there is any question at all in their minds, they call it a turnover on the field. Then there has to be enough evidence to slap them in the face to overturn. On this play, his elbow was absolutely out of bounds. If the ref had called it incomplete on the field it would never had been overturned. So the call on the field stays but the problem is, they are taught to call it a turnover if there is a question in real time. Putting the turnover ruling at an immense advantage. They didn’t follow that protocol last week though...
Matt..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2020 8:26 pm : link
I don't know. We had 5 people in the room watching the game and they had a freeze-frame of the elbow hitting the white and each of us said it was going to be overturned. I thought it was really clear.

But my larger point is that the who conclusive criteria is applied inconsistently. There was no visual evidence to overturn Crowder's INT, but they did anyway. Even on the play you mentioned with Allen stretching the ball out, it looked like his butt or hip could have been down - and I was surprised it was overturned. But at least there was evidence the ball crossed the line.
RE: If You’re Rooting for 0-16  
giantstock : 10/18/2020 8:30 pm : link
In comment 15013417 Samiam said:
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Or you’re rooting for the team to lose this early in the season. that’s your right and you can even call yourself a Giants fan. But, I don’t get why you feel the need to come on post on a Giants blog and be so public about it. Keep it to yourself. You all really sound like pathetic Jets fans. I remember a friend and his wife coming to my house for dinner and watch the Giants. The fucker knows I’m a die hard Giants fan living and dying with the team and he’s drinking my liquor and eating my food and loudly rooting against my team He was acting like a schmuck. Root for whoever you want or whatever you want but don’t come on BBI and spoil it for Giants fans who stick with the team through thick and thin. The problem is not where they draft but who does the drafting and and ownership must know by now a change is needed regardless of a few wins.


Your post is crap. Who the hell are you to tell someone how to post? This isn't YOUR house. And there are different ways one can be a fan.

For example some of us are disgusted/ashamed over the years how this team has been performing and are hoping for change. Posters like you who just want to be cheerleaders disgust us pretty mightily.

Many of us have ben right since 2018 that we have a clown-of-a-GM. Yet we're supposed to shut up and let cheerleaders like you have the only voice?
It was 100% not an INT  
LG in NYC : 10/18/2020 8:34 pm : link
It’s honestly not debatable

The chalk came up when his elbow hit
It was chest in real time and even more so in slow mo

Terrible job by refs on that play
RE: What a stupid debate this is  
giantstock : 10/18/2020 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15013264 LG in NYC said:
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It’s obvious he was trying to throw it away. He said he was trying to throw it away.
He was rushed and falling backwards, made a bad throw in that it wasn’t far enough. Not a bad decision. And oh by the way, the defensive back was out of bounds. Bad job by refs

So outside of the bogus interception, what exactly are people upset about with Jones today?


Because it was awful attempt to throw it away. And by the way,-- it was called an interception. The Giants lost possession. He could've thrown it to the ground. To the sideline. Instead he stupidly tries to throw out of the end zone while he is falling back with someone in his face.
RE: It was 100% not an INT  
giantstock : 10/18/2020 8:36 pm : link
In comment 15013562 LG in NYC said:
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It’s honestly not debatable

The chalk came up when his elbow hit
It was chest in real time and even more so in slow mo

Terrible job by refs on that play


Your post is typical whiney post form fans always looking for excuses.
RE: Matt..  
Matt M. : 10/18/2020 8:36 pm : link
In comment 15013548 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I don't know. We had 5 people in the room watching the game and they had a freeze-frame of the elbow hitting the white and each of us said it was going to be overturned. I thought it was really clear.

But my larger point is that the who conclusive criteria is applied inconsistently. There was no visual evidence to overturn Crowder's INT, but they did anyway. Even on the play you mentioned with Allen stretching the ball out, it looked like his butt or hip could have been down - and I was surprised it was overturned. But at least there was evidence the ball crossed the line.
Agree on the inconsistency. As for the INT, I thought he landed in on the live speed. Slow motion looked like it may have been on the line. Either way, I really don't think there was enough to overturn the call.

But, I agree 100% with Crowder's INT and the challenge today.
Giantsstock  
LG in NYC : 10/18/2020 8:44 pm : link
What excuse? We won the game

I’m highlighting that 1) it wasn’t about a bad decision but rather bad execution on a throwaway.

And 2) that it was a bad call by the refs which was painfully obvious to almost everybody.

Either way we won the game so I’m not really making any excuses not am I whining

But thanks.
Did anyone notice  
crick n NC : 10/18/2020 8:51 pm : link
That Washington's play clock had expired by a full second on their last td? It seemed quite clear to me.
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