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Jets reportedly shopping Quinnen Williams..

Sean : 10/18/2020 6:37 pm
He was the 3rd pick in the 2019 NFL draft. I recall the Giants being high on him in 2019 with some here hoping he would fall to the 6th pick.

Gettleman made the very polarizing trade for Leonard Williams with a 2-6 record last year. Williams was the 6th pick in 2015.

Hypothetically speaking, would you advocate making the same exact trade for Quinnen Williams as they made last year? 3rd & 4th/5th round pick for Williams?

I’m not saying yes and it would have big cap implications. I’m just curious given he was just the third pick in the draft a year and a half ago.
Honest question  
MtDizzle : 10/18/2020 6:40 pm : link
Are you fucking high???
Hasn't he been pretty restricted by injuries?  
Everyone Relax : 10/18/2020 6:40 pm : link
He was an absolute beast at Alabama, albeit for only one season. Giants are in no position to trade for anyone, but would be curious to see what the Jets can get for him.
keep DG away from the draft picks  
Giantsfan79 : 10/18/2020 6:41 pm : link
he does love him so interior d-line players, and has no qualms about trading multiple draft picks or dealing with the Jets.
arn't we all at this hour?  
gtt350 : 10/18/2020 6:41 pm : link
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RE: Honest question  
Sean : 10/18/2020 6:42 pm : link
In comment 15013325 MtDizzle said:
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Are you fucking high???


It’s just amazing how much more valuable draft pucks are before any player is selected.

The Jets would have hung up the phone and laughed if we offered a 3rd & 5th round pick for the 3rd pick in the 2019 draft. Now, 18 months later you are asking me if I’m high for suggesting giving up those picks for the player who was drafted at #3 in 2019.
Williams  
chopperhatch : 10/18/2020 6:49 pm : link
Has not looked as good as Tomlinson.... he's been more on BJ Hill's level. Leonard Williams has been the far better and more versatile player IMO.

Williams has been the quintessential disappointment on the D line for the Jets. Akin to Wilkerson, Gholston, Dewayne Robertson, Sheldon Richardson, Quentin Coples.... The Jets pick DL like we pick OL.
you can  
mittenedman : 10/18/2020 6:51 pm : link
never have enough run stopping DTs who can't stop the run
Not likely to help us this year so...  
Giants_West : 10/18/2020 6:52 pm : link
Big picture upside he is on his rookie contract for 2 more seasons plus an option year. It could allow us to move on from Tomlinson without worrying about weakening our currently solid d-line.

Downside is we really need to focus on other parts of the team with our middle-round picks in the upcoming draft. He probably isn't a good enough pure pass rusher to fill that void so it would still need to be addressed in the offseason, likely with higher round picks magnifying the total impact of that position group on our draft.

In balance probably not a good idea.
why do people get upset about mid round draft picks  
Chip : 10/18/2020 6:53 pm : link
If I could get an elite pass rusher for a 3rd I would do it but where DG failed is that he has to be under contract for at least a couple of years. Generally 3rd round draft picks don't work out. Look at our picks over the last 10 years.
Ummm, no fucking way  
jvm52106 : 10/18/2020 7:00 pm : link
do you trade for a failed DT. He isboverrated (coming out) and underperforming since being drafted. We need our picks notbgivevthem as way for a position we have filled already!
Why are they shopping him is my question?  
SGMen : 10/18/2020 7:05 pm : link
Perhaps because he is still young and his poor play & injuries may no be seen as as big a negative as they will after the season?
Leonard Williams was pretty good, though not great,  
81_Great_Dane : 10/18/2020 7:29 pm : link
before the Giants traded for him. Quinnen Williams hasn't even been good. More like marginal. Why would the Giants (or anyone) trade anything of value for him?

If the Jets want to trade him, there's something up, because he's probably worth more on their roster than what he'd bring back in trade — just on potential. So if he's trade bait, either they think his potential is low or there's some other problem with him: Off the field stuff, work ethic, something.
Go get him Dave...  
The_Boss : 10/18/2020 7:32 pm : link
He’s the missing piece.........


......to 5-11
Part of me wants to see DG trade a couple picks for him  
mfsd : 10/18/2020 7:34 pm : link
just to see BBI go batshit
I haven’t watched him play..  
Sean : 10/18/2020 7:35 pm : link
but it sounds like he’s a complete bust. Wow. I remember ppl saying he was the best player in the draft in 2019.
Ehhh  
aGiantGuy : 10/18/2020 7:35 pm : link
49ers were shopping Arik Armstead hard in 2018, supposedly they were willing to take a third. Nobody bit. The next year he breaks out for 10 sacks and 11 TFL’s and John Lynch looks like a genius.

The correct answer is you look into everything, Everything is on the table. Which I’m sure we all get tired of hearing. This coming draft looks pretty bare in terms of defensive lineman, which can definitely impact our negotiations with Tomlinson and Williams. Why not acquire extra leverage with 4 years of cost control?...

I’m not saying I would, I haven’t watched the film on him, but to shoot it down is premature, he was right there with Josh Allen just a year ago

The Leonard Williams trade was daft.  
FStubbs : 10/18/2020 7:39 pm : link
This would be worse than that. Quinnen Williams straight out sucks. The poster above who compared him to BJ Hill is on the money, that's the level of player he is. I thought he'd be a much better pro, but he has not been.

I'd honestly rather resign Leonard Williams and Tomlinson.
We need Edge players  
JonC : 10/18/2020 7:39 pm : link
whereas QW would probably play where LW or Dexter currently play. At some point, we need to address the massive lack of edge talent and stop spending assets duplicating talent.
Actually,  
Anakim : 10/18/2020 7:45 pm : link
This would make more sense than the Leonard Williams trade. Why? Because unlike Leonard, Quinnen is not an impending UFA. Also, Quinnen is younger and while he hasn't yet lived up to expectations, he's shown enough flashes to make me think he can be a productive 3Tech.

Having said that, I wouldn't make the trade because we only have 5 draft picks heading into 2021 and we don't need more help on the DL. We need an ER, an ILB and a #2 CB.
RE: We need Edge players  
AcidTest : 10/18/2020 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15013458 JonC said:
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whereas QW would probably play where LW or Dexter currently play. At some point, we need to address the massive lack of edge talent and stop spending assets duplicating talent.


^This.
RE: Go get him Dave...  
Anakim : 10/18/2020 7:46 pm : link
In comment 15013441 The_Boss said:
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He’s the missing piece.........


......to 5-11


At least you can come up with some reason for trading for Quinnen Williams. Age, untapped potential, signed beyond this year. The Leonard Williams trade lacked all of that.
Don't we only have six picks...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2020 7:50 pm : link
in the 2021 draft?

We shouldn't be buyers, we should be sellers at the trade deadline...

RE: Don't we only have six picks...  
Anakim : 10/18/2020 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15013486 bw in dc said:
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in the 2021 draft?

We shouldn't be buyers, we should be sellers at the trade deadline...


5. No 7th rounder (Yiadom) and no 5th rounder (Leonard Williams)


And we're not going to get any comp picks
RE: RE: Don't we only have six picks...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2020 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15013498 Anakim said:
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In comment 15013486 bw in dc said:


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in the 2021 draft?

We shouldn't be buyers, we should be sellers at the trade deadline...




5. No 7th rounder (Yiadom) and no 5th rounder (Leonard Williams)


And we're not going to get any comp picks


Thanks. Forgot and Yiadom. That just underscores the point more...bad idea.
I didn’t  
cokeduplt : 10/18/2020 9:37 pm : link
Realize Gettleman posted here
I didn’t know quinnen Williams has been that bad  
Leg of Theismann : 10/18/2020 11:46 pm : link
Jeez. He was supposedly the best player of the entire draft according to some in 2019
Muhammad Wilkerson  
jacob12 : 10/19/2020 12:07 am : link
Wilkerson made PFF All-Pro 4 years in a row before he was injured. Jon Gruden said that he was as physically talented as Chandler Jones.
like JonC said  
bc4life : 10/19/2020 7:53 am : link
you don't even think about a big trade like that unless it's s an edge plus player
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