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Jim Nagy called Peart better than Thomas back in May...

broadbandz : 10/19/2020 6:41 am
https://heavy.com/sports/2020/05/new-york-giants-andrew-thomas-matt-peart-left-tackle-nfl-scout/

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I would think they’d probably play Andrew Thomas at left. But if you were starting from scratch and where they got drafted from wasn’t an issue, you’d probably put Peart and left and Thomas on the right.

Nagy backed up his statement by shedding light on how rare it is to find a starting left tackle in the middle rounds. Yet, that he believes the Giants found a guy with that type of ceiling in Peart.

Usually you can’t get a guy with starting left tackle ability in the third round, and he’s got that type of upside. His feet, his length, he’s done some really good stuff in pass pro. He’s a better athlete than Andrew Thomas.
I have said...several times  
George from PA : 10/19/2020 7:21 am : link
Do not care where they play...if they can fix OL

Also keep in Mind....Thomas is 21 and Peart is like 24.

Fix OL...many things improve
...  
ryanmkeane : 10/19/2020 7:32 am : link
Peart turned 23 in June
RE: I have said...several times  
Victor in CT : 10/19/2020 7:33 am : link
In comment 15013810 George from PA said:
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Do not care where they play...if they can fix OL

Also keep in Mind....Thomas is 21 and Peart is like 24.

Fix OL...many things improve


Agree. Jumbo started at RT and stunk became a fine LT, Parcells admitted he should have moved William Roberts inside sooner to LG. Once he did he flourished. Eric Moore was drafted as a tackle but was most effective at RG (when he felt like playing that is). Who cares where they end up as long as they become good players and a cohesive unit?
Well if Peart is legit and we can pass on Penei Sewell  
Danny Dimes : 10/19/2020 7:39 am : link
then hopefully we can draft Ja marr Chase or Gregory Rousseau. Although it will be a hard pass on Sewell, best LT prospect in years...you just cant pass that up.
Keep  
Jon in NYC : 10/19/2020 7:54 am : link
in mind, Nagy is the senior bowl guy. So he has Peart colored glasses on, since Thomas left as a junior.
Whatever is the winning formula  
Spider43 : 10/19/2020 7:58 am : link
Is what should be followed. Draft round be damned. It will be interesting to see how this develops, because it might give us an insight as to what might happen this offseason. If Judge is his own man, he just plays the guys who help us win, in whatever position is best for the team. If Peart starts playing more at LT, and Thomas possibly at RT, that's a bad sign for Getts.
If A Thomas becomes our powerhouse  
NYG007 : 10/19/2020 8:36 am : link
LT, RG or RT, who the fock cares? I see big time potential in him on certain plays. Other plays, he gets dominated on the same one move. They all talked about it, and he's a rookie! He will learn to combat that one.

I don't care if he starts at LT, RT or RG/LG. As long as we found a 10 year stud starting lineman at #4, its a win!
Jim Nagy’s pretty fair  
aGiantGuy : 10/19/2020 8:40 am : link
With the sheer quantity of prospects he has to evaluate before January and for the amount of years he has done it. I’d think his glasses are as clear as any professional scout employed.

Almost like Saban’s endorsement of Alabama prospects, everyone’s fairly skeptical, of course, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it doesn’t hold any value.

From what I’ve seen, he’s pretty spot on, most of the time. Should of asked his opinion before we played the Steelers because something has to be flawed with our method of in-practice/training camp evaluations.

Like clockwork, every year some player, drafted or signed, is buried or cut that belongs in our best 11.
Go back and look at all the post-draft threads. Many were discussing  
Ivan15 : 10/19/2020 8:41 am : link
Peart at LT and Thomas at RT. I don’t see how this would be a bad look for DG if he got 2 starting tackles in the same draft.

Remember that the plan was for Thomas to start at RT, backed up by Fleming with Solder starting at LT backed up by Peart. If it had worked out that way, I was pretty sure Thomas would stay at RT in 2021 if he played well, while Solder tried to hold off Peart and play out his contract.

Also remember that Judge was big on versatility of the O-linemen, so in the back of his mind, he was thinking about which side Thomas and Peart would play on.
If this Thomas/Peart move works out, the next thing to look at is  
Ivan15 : 10/19/2020 8:51 am : link
Lemieux working in at LG, and Hernandez competing with or replacing Zeitler at RG in 2021.

Hernandez always was a better fit at RG. And he was so raw when drafted, that he could have been trained to play either side. He survived as a rookie because he had the basics of the position, despite the fact that the OL coach was borderline incompetent.
to Reiterate what just about everyone has said  
Dinger : 10/19/2020 9:02 am : link
who cares where they start as long as the OL works and you have legit 'starters' at every position and not 5 Cam Flemings or swing guys. AND more importantly, you can use your high draft picks on something other than OL. Like say an edge rusher or a CB (oops, baker and apple).
How long  
HoustonGiant : 10/19/2020 9:43 am : link
has it been, since we could discuss good OL prospects on our team. I'm excited, just have to suffer the growing pains.
RE: I have said...several times  
PatersonPlank : 10/19/2020 9:58 am : link
In comment 15013810 George from PA said:
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Do not care where they play...if they can fix OL

Also keep in Mind....Thomas is 21 and Peart is like 24.

Fix OL...many things improve


This is my opinion too. If Peart starts 5 years at LT and Thomas 5 years at RT, then this draft was a tremendous success.
Hernandez played LG  
Dave on the UWS : 10/19/2020 9:59 am : link
At UTEP so of course Shurmur plopped him in there. He’s a better fit at RG
Where did broadbanz learn to read, or how to quote,  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/19/2020 10:25 am : link
one wonders. In this world of fractured hot take opinions, reading well is a key, IMHO.

SO BROADBANZ posts:

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Jim Nagy called Peart better than Thomas back in May...


His OP statement is flat out a lie, a distortion of what Nagy wrote, surprise. I will give the poster credit for providing the link, which storyline posits a slightly different POV.

Here's the full quote. Nagy talks about "potential upside to play the left tackle position", which is quite different, isn't it?

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Nagy made sure to assure everyone he’s not saying that Peart is the better player of the two Giants draft picks, but that Peart simply offers more athletic abilities at the position.

"He’s not as good of a football player right now but he’s a better athlete. That’s clear. That’s inarguable."


Why bother with the misquote? To prove your point?

What's even more amusing to me is Ivan15's post above noting "quite a few threads were started [on BBI] about this..."

Yeah Ivan15, there were, and you started at least half of them, over and over and over. LOL.
man the Giants FO really made the Giants FO look stupid  
Eric on Li : 10/19/2020 10:26 am : link
drafting a player who may be as good or better than another they drafted.
RE: I have said...several times  
FStubbs : 10/19/2020 11:16 am : link
In comment 15013810 George from PA said:
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Do not care where they play...if they can fix OL

Also keep in Mind....Thomas is 21 and Peart is like 24.

Fix OL...many things improve


Age is less important than football mileage.
A nod to longtime great BBI poster Phil in LA  
mfsd : 10/19/2020 11:27 am : link
who recently passed...he posted back in camp that he thought Peart would see the field and be ready to play a lot earlier than most people were projecting
Sewell , peart and Thomas  
Payasdaddy : 10/19/2020 12:52 pm : link
If peart looks like the best candidate for OT, does it make any sense for Thomas or Sewell to play OG if we drafted Sewell?
Just thinking on how either would project at OG, not looking to throw Thomas at OG ala flowers because he stinks
Much rather have both rookie tackles pan out, improve going into 2021 and drafting an impact defender and a WR in first two rds
Or go all in on bud Dupree as the one big signing, trade down in first, grab 2 xtra picks and load up on wr and cb.
Seriously if we drafted 2 wr and 2 cb with our first 4 picks, wouldn’t complain
RE: If this Thomas/Peart move works out, the next thing to look at is  
fireitup77 : 10/19/2020 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15013894 Ivan15 said:
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Lemieux working in at LG, and Hernandez competing with or replacing Zeitler at RG in 2021.

Hernandez always was a better fit at RG. And he was so raw when drafted, that he could have been trained to play either side. He survived as a rookie because he had the basics of the position, despite the fact that the OL coach was borderline incompetent.


Hernandez had played zero snaps at RG in his life. What makes you think he is a better fit t there.
RE: Where did broadbanz learn to read, or how to quote,  
broadbandz : 10/19/2020 6:12 pm : link
In comment 15014189 BlueLou'sBack said:
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one wonders. In this world of fractured hot take opinions, reading well is a key, IMHO.

SO BROADBANZ posts:



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Jim Nagy called Peart better than Thomas back in May...



His OP statement is flat out a lie, a distortion of what Nagy wrote, surprise. I will give the poster credit for providing the link, which storyline posits a slightly different POV.

Here's the full quote. Nagy talks about "potential upside to play the left tackle position", which is quite different, isn't it?



Quote:


Nagy made sure to assure everyone he’s not saying that Peart is the better player of the two Giants draft picks, but that Peart simply offers more athletic abilities at the position.

"He’s not as good of a football player right now but he’s a better athlete. That’s clear. That’s inarguable."



Why bother with the misquote? To prove your point?

What's even more amusing to me is Ivan15's post above noting "quite a few threads were started [on BBI] about this..."

Yeah Ivan15, there were, and you started at least half of them, over and over and over. LOL.


I didnt miss quote anything you little bitch. It's all in black and white.
RE: Keep  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/19/2020 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15013830 Jon in NYC said:
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in mind, Nagy is the senior bowl guy. So he has Peart colored glasses on, since Thomas left as a junior.


Does this matter though? Does he have a vested interest in hyping guys up from Senior Bowl after the draft. I know they love to highlight who has played in the game, but either he's going to be a player or not in the NFL and no need to hype him up for the Draft at that point.
RE: RE: Where did broadbanz learn to read, or how to quote,  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/20/2020 2:57 pm : link
In comment 15014973 broadbandz said:
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In comment 15014189 BlueLou'sBack said:


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one wonders. In this world of fractured hot take opinions, reading well is a key, IMHO.

SO BROADBANZ replies:

I didnt miss quote anything you little bitch. It's all in black and white.


After all that evidence I provided you illiterate half wit, all you got is invective?

Too bad cussing me out doesn't improve your illiteracy, not even a whit.

I'd call you a moron, except that would be an insult to disabled folks.

Learn to read, dolt. BEORE YOU MISQUOTE SOMEONE. Or just give up posting for awhile...

Unless you like getting called out for it.

BTW, what are you, 15? Try having respect for your elders, who can actually READ.
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