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Peart had an 89.7 grade on PFF

CMicks3110 : 10/19/2020 9:11 am
including a 93.4 Run Blocking grade. Kid looks good.
Judge said the best players are going to play  
Metnut : 10/19/2020 9:17 am : link
In fact, he said this repeatedly and made it a point of emphasis.

If he sits Peart now, he'd lose some credibility in the locker room IMO.
Great news indeed  
5BowlsSoon : 10/19/2020 9:17 am : link
The thought of he and Thomas dominating the two tackle positions for the next 10 years (Lemieux, Hernandez, and Gates the inside) makes my heart beat so much faster.
Peart/Thomas - Gettleman  
Coopcomic : 10/19/2020 9:17 am : link
Seems Gettleman is getting blasted at every turn. But the Thomas pick - guaranteed Garrett, Columbo, Judge were all part of that decision. They obviously like both Thomas/Peart. The whole line is improving, as sane people would project. If it does improve, if McKinney shows up and makes an impact - will Gettleman get credit?
RE: Judge said the best players are going to play  
UConn4523 : 10/19/2020 9:19 am : link
In comment 15013949 Metnut said:
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In fact, he said this repeatedly and made it a point of emphasis.

If he sits Peart now, he'd lose some credibility in the locker room IMO.


He might be able to just play both anyway. Unless Peart hasn't fully grasped the playbook, he should play (LT or RT) and sit flemming.
I rewatched the game  
Now Mike in MD : 10/19/2020 9:26 am : link
and focused on the OL especially after some of the comments that Peart was getting pushed back and having trouble anchoring. I did not see it. I didn't see one play where he gave up pressure.
RE: RE: Judge said the best players are going to play  
Metnut : 10/19/2020 9:27 am : link
In comment 15013953 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15013949 Metnut said:


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In fact, he said this repeatedly and made it a point of emphasis.

If he sits Peart now, he'd lose some credibility in the locker room IMO.



He might be able to just play both anyway. Unless Peart hasn't fully grasped the playbook, he should play (LT or RT) and sit flemming.


This would seem to be the right move to make.
I haven't rewatched the game  
rasbutant : 10/19/2020 9:28 am : link
but people were giving Peart/Thomas credit for Chase Young having a quite day. But I'm pretty sure, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I noticed Chase Young matched up on Flemming most the day. Sweat was over the other too.

So if true shouldn't Flemming get some praise for Chase having a quite day???
As bad as Thomas has been  
Mike in NY : 10/19/2020 9:30 am : link
Fleming has been worse. We should be starting Peart and Thomas at OT. If it turns out that Thomas is better suited at RT and turns into a Kareem McKenzie-type, but Peart is a starting LT I won't complain that we used the #4 pick on Thomas because we needed to fill both OT positions.
Peart should step in at RT.  
mittenedman : 10/19/2020 9:43 am : link
what hurts him is the Giants like Cam’s veteran presence at RT given they already have Thomas and an inexperienced C with Jones. Now you are adding another rookie to the blocking scheme.

that said as each week goes by that becomes less an issue
RE: I haven't rewatched the game  
Tuckrule : 10/19/2020 9:45 am : link
In comment 15013973 rasbutant said:
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but people were giving Peart/Thomas credit for Chase Young having a quite day. But I'm pretty sure, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I noticed Chase Young matched up on Flemming most the day. Sweat was over the other too.

So if true shouldn't Flemming get some praise for Chase having a quite day???


Yes your correct. Chase was lined up mostly over Fleming
RE: As bad as Thomas has been  
Spider43 : 10/19/2020 9:51 am : link
In comment 15013978 Mike in NY said:
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Fleming has been worse. We should be starting Peart and Thomas at OT. If it turns out that Thomas is better suited at RT and turns into a Kareem McKenzie-type, but Peart is a starting LT I won't complain that we used the #4 pick on Thomas because we needed to fill both OT positions.


Wouldn't you be happier with a true stud at #4 though? Expecting more out of a top five pick isn't unreasonable.
He looked that good  
GoDeep13 : 10/19/2020 9:53 am : link
To my eyes as well. I didn’t realize just how huge he was. Once he got his hands on the defender it was game over for them. I want him at LT.
That's nice  
HomerJones45 : 10/19/2020 10:01 am : link
but re-visit when he has played a few games and DC's have film on him. Certainly good that he didn't look overmatched.
One issue they have  
Dave on the UWS : 10/19/2020 10:21 am : link
with getting Peart and Thomas in at the same time is Thomas has ONLY taken snaps at LT. To move him now to RT, when he is already struggling doesn’t sound like a great idea. Peart could step in at RT, but he looks like a natural LT to my untrained eye. I suspect Columbo has a pretty good handle on things. He’s also trying to bring Gates and Hernandez along. His job this year is no picnic but we are seeing progress.
For all the people who want to proclaim Thomas as Flowers 2.0 keep this in mind. Flowers was pretty uncoachable and had a bad attitude. Thomas wants to be coached, he’s a hard worker and will keep at it until he becomes a good player.
My take on this is Colombo knows what he is doing and seeing  
PatersonPlank : 10/19/2020 10:26 am : link
He seems to be trying out Peart in different places to figure our what works best. I also think he likes Thomas. In fact being late for a meeting was the perfect excuse Colomobo needed to try out Peart in a "non benching" manner.

I think starting next season the two Tackles will be Peart and Thomas, in whatever combination is best for the OL. Again, in my opinion, if we have these 2 guys starting at LT/RT for the next 5 years then this draft was a hug success (especially considering in McKinney and Holmes). I don't care who plays LT and RT. If Peart is the LT then we got a steal in rd 3.
Peart and Thomas  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/19/2020 11:13 am : link
are going to be the foundation.
RE: I rewatched the game  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/19/2020 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15013966 Now Mike in MD said:
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and focused on the OL especially after some of the comments that Peart was getting pushed back and having trouble anchoring. I did not see it. I didn't see one play where he gave up pressure.


Maybe I'm mistaken though or it's just one play that sticks out like a sore thumb, but I remember a Freeman run to the left where he got driven back two yards. Regardless, the bigger thing to me is he has excellent feet and uses his long ass arms very well. This bodes excellently for the future.
Why has everyone given up on Thomas?  
US1 Giants : 10/19/2020 12:19 pm : link
He is a rookie and didn't even have a real training camp. Probably was training to be the RT this year before he Covid op-outs. I like Peart. The trashing of Thomas is over the top.
RE: RE: I rewatched the game  
Now Mike in MD : 10/19/2020 12:46 pm : link
In comment 15014459 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 15013966 Now Mike in MD said:


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and focused on the OL especially after some of the comments that Peart was getting pushed back and having trouble anchoring. I did not see it. I didn't see one play where he gave up pressure.



Maybe I'm mistaken though or it's just one play that sticks out like a sore thumb, but I remember a Freeman run to the left where he got driven back two yards. Regardless, the bigger thing to me is he has excellent feet and uses his long ass arms very well. This bodes excellently for the future.


The run plays are tough to follow sometimes from the game so I was just mostly focusing on pass pro
RE: Why has everyone given up on Thomas?  
Now Mike in MD : 10/19/2020 12:47 pm : link
In comment 15014471 US1 Giants said:
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He is a rookie and didn't even have a real training camp. Probably was training to be the RT this year before he Covid op-outs. I like Peart. The trashing of Thomas is over the top.


IMO, the people giving up on Thomas are a vocal minority
RE: I rewatched the game  
fireitup77 : 10/19/2020 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15013966 Now Mike in MD said:
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and focused on the OL especially after some of the comments that Peart was getting pushed back and having trouble anchoring. I did not see it. I didn't see one play where he gave up pressure.


He gave up one pressure. Thing is it was on the TD pass so nobody cares.
Peart is a big, powerful man  
islander1 : 10/19/2020 1:07 pm : link
6'7 and about 320 - he could easily put on 10-20 lbs over the next few years. Absolute monster if his technique proves to have an NFL starter caliber.
There was a clear difference between the 2.  
barens : 10/19/2020 1:28 pm : link
I fully expect to see a lot more of Peart at left tackle.
I dont know who's better  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/19/2020 1:30 pm : link
but I like Judge rotating them in. Valuable time for growth.
RE: Why has everyone given up on Thomas?  
Big Blue in MD : 10/19/2020 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15014471 US1 Giants said:
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He is a rookie and didn't even have a real training camp. Probably was training to be the RT this year before he Covid op-outs. I like Peart. The trashing of Thomas is over the top.


Finally a little sanity!
RE: Why has everyone given up on Thomas?  
Saquads26 : 10/19/2020 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15014471 US1 Giants said:
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He is a rookie and didn't even have a real training camp. Probably was training to be the RT this year before he Covid op-outs. I like Peart. The trashing of Thomas is over the top.


Hmmm yet Peart is playing so much better considering he’s a rookie too
If people..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/19/2020 4:58 pm : link
are going to put stock in PFF, they have a dilemma to resolve. Fleming has graded as our best OL by them.
RE: Peart is a big, powerful man  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/19/2020 6:10 pm : link
In comment 15014577 islander1 said:
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6'7 and about 320 - he could easily put on 10-20 lbs over the next few years. Absolute monster if his technique proves to have an NFL starter caliber.


How do you know if he easily put on 20 lbs? Question is how much more muscle he can put on keeping the fat to a minimum. Everyone is different there and he looks like a beanpole comparatively. He has 9.5 inch hands which I thought was odd. That's super small for a guy his size. Regardless he has LT feet and long arms. Not to rush to judgement, but he already looks better in pass pro than anyone else we've sent out there a near decade.

A 3rd round rookie from UConn has given us our best pass protection at LT in a decade. Wild to think about.
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