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Be honest.. were you rooting for the Redskins to convert?

LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/19/2020 9:28 am
The 2 point conversion?

As I was sitting there yesterday watching the game, initially I was hoping for the Giants to get the stop and the win. But before the Redskins snapped the ball I kind of wished the Redskins would convert the 2 point conversion. One of those "Lose but hey they played hard" games.

Winning against the Redskins does the Giants no favors. Losing sucks. And I'm tired of it. This franchise seems to be just spinning its wheels and keeps making one wrong move after another.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/19/2020 9:29 am : link
No. But I wouldn't have cried myself to sleep either.
Nope. I wanted Judge to get his first W  
jlukes : 10/19/2020 9:31 am : link
and there are a hell of a lot of guys playing all out for our team this year. The vibe is completely different than the past few years.

Nearly every game has been close. Winning builds culture and you need to start somewhere.
No  
Mike in NY : 10/19/2020 9:32 am : link
If the Giants are going to improve I think they need the confidence to know that they can win close games.
I will never tell someone how to root for their team  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2020 9:32 am : link
but i will never understand the hope for a loss thing..
haha  
LG in NYC : 10/19/2020 9:33 am : link
'Losing sucks. But I wanted the Giants to lose.'

yea, makes sense.

For many here, the season is just 17 weeks to talk about the draft and root for a higher draft pick. where has that gotten us the past few years?!

This team to needs to win, and understand what it takes to win... and then win more... and continue to build and get better as they are winning... one highly drafted player (TL, or someone else) doesn't just magically make us win the Super Bowl.
Not even a little  
Matt M. : 10/19/2020 9:33 am : link
But, I also wouldn't have been shocked or disappointed if they converted. It is almost a numbness that has set in.
yes!  
Black_Flag : 10/19/2020 9:33 am : link
I wanted the Redskins to win I was really like "WTF are you doing just kick the extra point and you can easily win in OT ". Jones sucks when it comes to game winning drives and the D sucks. In OT they would march down the field for a TD against the is shit D or Jones will fumble or turn the ball over leaving you with a short field to kick a field goal.

Bring on Trevor Lawrence and complete clean up of Gettleman and his arena football league players. Saquon has to go to.
they  
mittenedman : 10/19/2020 9:34 am : link
have a better core developing than getting credit for.

they need to start winning games
People seem to forget we just hired a 38 year old coach..  
Sean : 10/19/2020 9:34 am : link
Wins are important.
Hmm...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/19/2020 9:34 am : link
Winning against Washington does them no favors?? How does losing give them anything?
RE: yes!  
section125 : 10/19/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 15013990 Black_Flag said:
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I wanted the Redskins to win I was really like "WTF are you doing just kick the extra point and you can easily win in OT ". Jones sucks when it comes to game winning drives and the D sucks. In OT they would march down the field for a TD against the is shit D or Jones will fumble or turn the ball over leaving you with a short field to kick a field goal.

Bring on Trevor Lawrence and complete clean up of Gettleman and his arena football league players. Saquon has to go to.


Shows your football knowledge. If they had arena football WRs they would be a completely different offense...those guys were all speed merchants.
So Lawrence Taylor is rooting for his team to lose...  
John In CO : 10/19/2020 9:36 am : link
Pathetic....you should really change that handle.

This team is playing hard and have been a play or two away from winning a few games. yesterday, one of those plays went their way. Thats football. And as long as the Jets are still in the NFL and are participating in next years draft, any thoughs about Trevor Lawrence are not realistic. So get over it.
RE: Hmm...  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/19/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 15013994 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Winning against Washington does them no favors?? How does losing give them anything?


Fair enough. I guess I'm in the "draft as many quality players as possible" camp, and to do that it's better to draft high then low. I also think Mara needs to reach rock bottom before a drastic change is made.
Definitely rooting for the Giants to stop the 2-point conversion  
M.S. : 10/19/2020 9:38 am : link

And get their first win under their belt.

But others on this site have already said what I felt when the clock hit 0:00 -- it was a win that didn't really feel like a win.

And I'll just add the following: A win in which we were out-played by a bottom-dweller.
RE: So Lawrence Taylor is rooting for his team to lose...  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/19/2020 9:38 am : link
In comment 15014002 John In CO said:
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Pathetic....you should really change that handle.

This team is playing hard and have been a play or two away from winning a few games. yesterday, one of those plays went their way. Thats football. And as long as the Jets are still in the NFL and are participating in next years draft, any thoughs about Trevor Lawrence are not realistic. So get over it.


Again, I rooting for them to get the stop and the win. Before the snap I considered wishing for them to not get the stop and for us to lose.
This is such a weak take  
Chris684 : 10/19/2020 9:40 am : link
I like Judge and am happy he got his first win.

To my eyes this team has played hard every single week and has played better since the San Francisco game and it was nice to see them earn a W. The team is really young and without a few of its best players. I agree with Romo who said last week that this coaching staff is really strong and the arrow is pointing up.

Some nice positives yesterday included the OL against the Washington front. Individual performances of Freeman, Ryan, L. Williams, Martinez, Bradberry, Slayton. I'm hoping for Peart and Thomas to start at left and right T and send Fleming to the bench.

I'm looking forward to the Eagles game.
Hell no  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/19/2020 9:42 am : link
1) Still in the division race
2) Get back to culture of winning
3) Judge's first win
4) F the skins...er WFT
Glad for Judge  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/19/2020 9:46 am : link
And the young guys they have been playing hard
So six weeks into the season  
steve in ky : 10/19/2020 9:47 am : link
You are rooting for them to lose a divisional game in a season when the first place team in the division has only two wins?

Why do you even bother to flood the team at this point?
RE: RE: Hmm...  
djstat : 10/19/2020 9:47 am : link
In comment 15014004 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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In comment 15013994 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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Winning against Washington does them no favors?? How does losing give them anything?



Fair enough. I guess I'm in the "draft as many quality players as possible" camp, and to do that it's better to draft high then low. I also think Mara needs to reach rock bottom before a drastic change is made.
. Wow your thinking is interesting. You can draft great players in later rounds. Look at the teams consistently contending, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Packers etc are all consistently contending despite typically licking in the second half of each round. The problem with many of you is you want instant success. Those of you that were rooting for a loss yesterday are ridiculous. The odds of this team going 0-16 are slim. Right now the division is up for grabs. The team is slowly improving. They play hard and we have a coach I believe in. But it takes time. You’re all tired of hearing that since we have been lousy for several years. But we have a coach with a plan, whom players believe in and are playing for and we have draft picks developing. Also if you rooted for a loss you are disgracing the name Lawrence Taylor.
I wasn't rooting for them to convert  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/19/2020 9:48 am : link
but I was damn sure WAS would convert.
I don't even know why the tried to go for it in the first place.  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/19/2020 9:48 am : link
Their defense shut the Giants offense down in the 2nd half.
Losing sucks and does nothing for this team  
RDJR : 10/19/2020 9:49 am : link
in week six. There is so much football to be played (or not to be played depending on Covid) that rooting for a loss this early seems foolish. Now, the win against Washington late last season, that's a different story. And the difference between Chase Young and Andrew Thomas.
Not a chance  
Eli Wilson : 10/19/2020 9:50 am : link
I actually think I gave myself heartburn concerned that they would.
hell no  
Victor in CT : 10/19/2020 9:54 am : link
that's just stupid
Hell no- I was screaming to hold them  
PatersonPlank : 10/19/2020 9:55 am : link
I root for the Giants every stupid game
No. Because any coach who goes for it in that position...  
x meadowlander : 10/19/2020 9:55 am : link
...deserves to fail and deserves to lose his job.

A win would have tied Washington for first in the NFC East. Divisional games are the MOST critical for any team - being so cavalier with his teams future, the average NFL 2-point conversion success rate below 50%, Washington fans deservingly are calling for his head today.

Incompetent franchises ruin the sport.
No.  
Gmen703 : 10/19/2020 9:56 am : link
I live in enemy territory.
No, I want Judge to get a win...  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/19/2020 9:57 am : link
...and the team to get some confidence.

But I sure wouldn't have been upset with a result that would have ensured Gettleman's departure.
No way.  
Section331 : 10/19/2020 9:57 am : link
This team needs to win some games. They've been playing better the past couple of weeks, especially defensively, and got the running game going a bit yesterday.

If Dallas loses tonight, we're a game out of first. The next 5 games are winnable, if we can steal one of 2 from Philly, we could go 4-1 or 3-2. 7 wins may win this crappy division, so let's see what happens.
RE: No. Because any coach who goes for it in that position...  
Mike in NY : 10/19/2020 9:58 am : link
In comment 15014074 x meadowlander said:
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...deserves to fail and deserves to lose his job.

A win would have tied Washington for first in the NFC East. Divisional games are the MOST critical for any team - being so cavalier with his teams future, the average NFL 2-point conversion success rate below 50%, Washington fans deservingly are calling for his head today.

Incompetent franchises ruin the sport.


Not to mention that our O has struggled all season to score TD's and McKissic/Gibson combo was really gashing the Giants so the Redskins had a better chance at winning in OT if they played it conservative versus the chance at converting a 2 point conversion.
hell no  
Victor in CT : 10/19/2020 9:58 am : link
that's just stupid
Rooting for wins  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/19/2020 9:59 am : link
.
no. I don't care where we draft  
Dinger : 10/19/2020 9:59 am : link
we need too much for it too matter. It would have sent me off the deep end. You can't stop a team AGAIN in the final minutes of a game/half and then you CAN'T stop a backup QB and the worst team in your division from getting two points and a victory?! I would have thrown the remote, if I cared anymore......
i need something to cheer for  
cjac : 10/19/2020 10:04 am : link
i was really hoping to see Daniel Jones secure the win in the fourth Q with a long drive. But i'll take a win however I can.
Some are so lost  
djm : 10/19/2020 10:06 am : link
It makes my head hurt.
The OP...  
TheEvilLurker : 10/19/2020 10:06 am : link
Is like being an Eagles fan, and hoping there team loses every game, so that they can eventually get better.

I'm not an Eagles fan, and I hope they lose every game...every year.
No  
Harvest Blend : 10/19/2020 10:07 am : link
.
No.  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2020 10:09 am : link
I was just happy WAS went for it - either way, I was not in favor of sitting through overtime.

After WAS scored I said to my wife - oh no, it's going to overtime. Then I said - wait, Washington's going for two! She said, why would they do that?
Can’t wait for the next know it all miserable fuck  
djm : 10/19/2020 10:09 am : link
To tell us all an ugly win like yesterday can’t lead to bigger and better things. Sure it can’t. Just fuck off. Please.
I would have been very happy with a 16-13 win  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/19/2020 10:12 am : link
Settle for a FG instead of the Jones' interception. Defense steps up and handles a very weak Washington offense.

I need to see Jones' game awareness improve. Live to fight another down and not force plays that aren't there. Properly throw the ball out of bounds, etc.
I’d be shocked  
5BowlsSoon : 10/19/2020 10:12 am : link
If someone would actually come on this thread and say YES because he wants us to go 0-16 to get Lawrence.

Maybe if they open an account just for this purpose to keep from revealing their identity.
When you wish for a loss to win....  
MarkT : 10/19/2020 10:12 am : link
the draft pick race, means you are not a fan. And when you continually bitch about the organization, you should go root for the team you really like.... Whomever is in the Superbowl. Fair weather fans. Redundant Garbage!
No  
Csonka : 10/19/2020 10:13 am : link
We can still win this awful division.
RE: I will never tell someone how to root for their team  
Hades07 : 10/19/2020 10:14 am : link
In comment 15013987 nygiants16 said:
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but i will never understand the hope for a loss thing..
you're not alone
djm  
JonC : 10/19/2020 10:15 am : link
You're really an angry dude. Watching you go off the rails might be entertaining, lol.

To the OP, of course you root for the wins while they matter. If this team is 2-13 and playing for #1 overall pick, I'd rather they lose that game and set up with higher draft picks.

It's not rocket science, dudes.
Sure was  
Glover : 10/19/2020 10:15 am : link
I am a Giants fan, but I don’t like the way the Giants have run their team for a long time. The Giants need a full house cleaning and Mara needs to be no part of any coaching or personnel acquisitions. They need to lose, lose, lose, because that is what the management of this team deserves. Those were 2 pretty talent-bereft teams playing out there yeaterday. At least Riverboat Ron is an experienced head coach with some conviction. Judge should be tied to Gettelman and both better be gone at the end of the season if not sooner.
I know this can be posted on most post game, reactionary threads  
Drewcon40 : 10/19/2020 10:18 am : link
During the week when just talking about the Giants, I tend to look at the long term. Almost mentally preparing for a loss with a (at least we'll get a good draft pick or this will force a change in the front office), but during the actual game, I can't do it. Even in games during seasons where the Giants are in a year where they won't see January. I still find myself rooting for the Giants to succeed. When Jones was picked off in the endzone, I reacted with anger that the play was overturned. I was just as deflated with that play. The sequence of events where WFT punted and downed it at the 1. Then after the penalty, them converting the 4th down and scoring a TD, I was disappointed.

I am not sure if this makes sense but I guess when it comes to game time, I just want the Giants to win. Even though Rivers curiously went for 2, when they failed, my organic reaction was joy. Peppers doing flips is a little odd in retrospect but it's a Giants win and it felt good.

Fans may say - well if they convert or kick the extra point, the Giants may lose. Hey even Daniel Jones first win, Tampa Bay missed a very makeable field goal. We also had 2 loses to Philly and Carolina on back to back years when a kicker nailed a 60 plus yarder. We are going to be gifted and screwed.

^not overturned  
Drewcon40 : 10/19/2020 10:19 am : link
**correction
Apathetic  
Greg from LI : 10/19/2020 10:21 am : link
They played poorly against an awful opponent. I wasn't rooting for a loss, but winning this particular game in that manner hardly seemed cause for celebration.
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