Thought the Bears was game number 1. Winnable game at home in a tough stretch. We lost, but we showed a lot. Still think we win that game if not for the ridiculous 4th down play where the lineman ended up catching the ball. Hard to argue this years team hasn’t been unfortunate in the luck and ref department.
Hopefully the Eagles don’t get as many calls as they did against Baltimore, but I’m actually excited again. Win here and all of a sudden it’s us and the Cowboys. Curious what they look like tonight as well, if zeke doesn’t have 25 carries tonight McCarthy shoul get fired on the spot.
I still don't think we've covered Brian Westbrook or Shady McCoy yet.
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"learn how to win" sentiment that I keep reading? I'm no pro, and don't pretend to be, but I played sports through college and after. Good teams and bad. The team either has the talent and coaching to win or it doesn't. Can someone explain this?
I’d add that beyond physical talent, some folks have the ability/discipline to make smart decisions, ie decisions that increase your odds and probabilities of winning. You can see in all sports. It golf, for example, you can play with a person with infinitely more “talent” who takes unnecessary risks. Sometimes just making sure you two putt from 10 feet is the winning play. Or basketball, not committing a stupid foul in wrong situation.
In football, it’s a lot more of a split second thing, a recognition thing. Some of it is coaching, but even with great coaching it sometimes takes years to get it (and some people never get it). Perfect example might be DJ’s interception yesterday ... the “learning to win” would be DJ recognizing that points on the board in that situation was far and away the most important outcome, and should have informed his approach to the play (and readiness to dump the ball or even take the sack when K Smith whiffed).
There IS something to learning to win. IMO It is confidence. Sports are about ability - and confidence. When you are used to winning you are confident. When you are used to losing you are not as confident. Trying to avoid mistakes leads to missed opportunities AND more mistakes. Winning teams play loose, confident, and smart.
JUdge believes that practice and attention to detail will increase confidence and I would agree. First is to establish it as individuals and next as a team.
As a coach I would always tell my teams to expect that bad things would happen and KNOW that we are good enough to overcome those events by focusing on what happens next and using are ability and training to control the things we can control.
Daniel Jones and the offense have fallen short when given a chance to finish near the end of games this year. I believe that he will succeed and when he does it will happen more often.
Giants need to play perfect games and we need mistakes by other teams.
This is like the Dallas game, the Cowboys talent is far ahead of the Giants right now and they made more big mistakes that keep the Giants in the game.
Same with Philly, they need to shoot themselves in the foot and the Giants need to play lights out to win.
Philly played well this week and if we get that team we will lose even if we play well.
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being out (possibly, nothing definitive yet) helps. I don't see how we don't match-up well against them. We aren't good but there is nothing scary about the Eagles.
The Eagles can really rush the passer. Jones biggest issue is sack fumbles. Can they keep Jones clean? Can he make plays under heavy duress? Can he not end a 1 play drive with a TO? Can he lead a comeback drive in the 4th Q? With the Eagles passrush, I would say no. But he can prove me wrong on Thursday.
Three things
Score TDs in the red zone
Clutch offense at end of game
No game changing turnovers/penalties
IMO The Giants can do these things and once they do it will become habit.
To an extent this is both true and something that shouldn't be taken too seriously. Ugly wins add up just as much as pretty wins but yes you want to see the team look GOOD to ensure winning is sustainable. But it also works with some of the losses or close losses we have endured. It might be fair to say this team isn't as bad as their 1-5 record but it doesn't really matter. Wins and losses matter.
Another ugly win gets this team to 2-5 and within breathing distance of first place dallas. it also creates some distance between the Giants and 3rd and 4th place. If they win ugly, it gives the Giants more time to get things right and IF, (big IF) they ever did figure things out this year, these ugly wins get them home.
Ugly wins can turn into something much more meaningful by season's end. It's Philly. Just fucking win. Worry about pretty when we get there.
The Eagles are banged up on offense, and it's more than obvious now the Giants have some talent to play solid defense. In addition, they have veteran type players (Martinez, Ryan, Bradberry) that know how to play and do make a difference.
The Eagles are not a good team, but they still have some components (DL) that don't bode well for us in matchups.
Still.....injury to Wentz? Turnovers from Wentz? Easily could happen.....Giants have a shot.
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"learn how to win" sentiment that I keep reading? I'm no pro, and don't pretend to be, but I played sports through college and after. Good teams and bad. The team either has the talent and coaching to win or it doesn't. Can someone explain this?
I’d add that beyond physical talent, some folks have the ability/discipline to make smart decisions, ie decisions that increase your odds and probabilities of winning. You can see in all sports. It golf, for example, you can play with a person with infinitely more “talent” who takes unnecessary risks. Sometimes just making sure you two putt from 10 feet is the winning play. Or basketball, not committing a stupid foul in wrong situation.
In football, it’s a lot more of a split second thing, a recognition thing. Some of it is coaching, but even with great coaching it sometimes takes years to get it (and some people never get it). Perfect example might be DJ’s interception yesterday ... the “learning to win” would be DJ recognizing that points on the board in that situation was far and away the most important outcome, and should have informed his approach to the play (and readiness to dump the ball or even take the sack when K Smith whiffed).
There IS something to learning to win. IMO It is confidence. Sports are about ability - and confidence. When you are used to winning you are confident. When you are used to losing you are not as confident. Trying to avoid mistakes leads to missed opportunities AND more mistakes. Winning teams play loose, confident, and smart.
JUdge believes that practice and attention to detail will increase confidence and I would agree. First is to establish it as individuals and next as a team.
As a coach I would always tell my teams to expect that bad things would happen and KNOW that we are good enough to overcome those events by focusing on what happens next and using are ability and training to control the things we can control.
Daniel Jones and the offense have fallen short when given a chance to finish near the end of games this year. I believe that he will succeed and when he does it will happen more often.
Good post, and agreed.
GO BIG BLUE!!!
Giants need to play perfect games and we need mistakes by other teams.
This is like the Dallas game, the Cowboys talent is far ahead of the Giants right now and they made more big mistakes that keep the Giants in the game.
Same with Philly, they need to shoot themselves in the foot and the Giants need to play lights out to win.
Philly played well this week and if we get that team we will lose even if we play well.
Their talent isn't better right now though. They actually did play a lot more disciplined than the Ravens last week, but the game wasn't nearly as close as the score indicates. Dropped passes, missed throws, poor tackling on defense. They are on our talent level, they just have a lot of names way past their prime. Shit they remind me a lot of the Giants 2013-15 right now except at QB. They actually have a bigger issue there because Wentz doesn't look good, but he isn't getting much help either. Could just be a bad year, Eli had those too.
The Eagles are not very good right now.
I still don't think we've covered Brian Westbrook or Shady McCoy yet.
What? The SF Game??
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I don't think Judge has been out-coached yet - I'd like to see a well-prepared effort against the Eagles. Look like a team that practices and has familiarity with our biggest rival.
I still don't think we've covered Brian Westbrook or Shady McCoy yet.
What? The SF Game??
That game was a classic example of one play opening up the floodgates. What makes that worse was it was on a terrible calll on 3rd and long.
Graham got outcoached in the second half against Shanahan, but to be fair, he’s the best coach at making second half adjustments in football.
With that Cowboys loss, this is going to tell us a helluva lot about this football team. I’d imagine there is probably more energy in the building then there has been in a long time.
Jones needs to win one of these game to cement this team as his. More than win/loss record for the year, he needs to come up big in a game like this. If has the ball in his hands with a chance to win the game, he has to come through. I don't care if he has to run to get every yard. I am so rooting for him tonight. A big win with a solid performance from Jones would give this franchise a GIANT shot in the arm.
I just want to win one of these games. Change our stars.