Until this team can score touchdowns in the red zone they will not win. Look at the number of times the giants have been in the red Zone and actually scored a touchdown. It is either an interception or a field goal.
it’s very difficult to take a bunch of practice squad level guys and turn that into a professional offense that executes on a regular basis. We have a talent in Slayton and oddly enough he’s the only guy actually producing. Get a couple more like that (or better) and the points will come
Daniel Jones red-zone passing stats in 2019:
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
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According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Daniel Jones red-zone passing stats in 2019:
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
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According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
He had healthy EE, Shep, and Tate. He also had Saquon which defenses had to account for.
Saquon Barkley. He takes up a ton of attention in red zone forcing man on the outside making it easier for guys to win 1v1 matchups. Without that we need some big red zone targets where you can force balls into tight zones. We don't have that.
Daniel Jones red-zone passing stats in 2019:
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Quote:
According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
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The pick yesterday, he throws off his back foot.
If that is his receiver in the back of the EZ, it's okay
to make that throw...but it wasn't.
I was saying about 5 minutes before that throw,
maybe he will get thru this with a clean game,
but not to be. Although don't know why that was not overturned on replay. What the hell were they looking at?
Geez, his elbow clearly hit the white boundary.
Saquon missed 4 of Jones 12 starts last year (counting TB)
Daniel Jones red-zone passing stats in 2019:
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Quote:
According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
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The pick yesterday, he throws off his back foot.
If that is his receiver in the back of the EZ, it's okay
to make that throw...but it wasn't.
I was saying about 5 minutes before that throw,
maybe he will get thru this with a clean game,
but not to be. Although don't know why that was not overturned on replay. What the hell were they looking at?
Geez, his elbow clearly hit the white boundary.
you people with the back foot throw dive me nuts. When you have defenders in your face and about to tackle you the back foot throw is all you can do. As a matter of fact if you can't thro w off your back foot you can't play QB in the NFL. he was throwing the ball out of the end sone and couldn't get enough on it. his mistake was waiting too long to try and make something happen bc his receiving corps is average at best. Minus Slayton the others all have major flaws and the ability to get open is the biggest.
Also, we just moved on from a QB that will undoubtedly be in the Hall of fame, potentially on the first ballot, and who led the NFL in interceptions for much of his career. the positives on Daniel jones are things that cannot be taught. toughness, accuracy, ability to stand in the pocket.
Daniel Jones red-zone passing stats in 2019:
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Quote:
According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
.
The pick yesterday, he throws off his back foot.
If that is his receiver in the back of the EZ, it's okay
to make that throw...but it wasn't.
I was saying about 5 minutes before that throw,
maybe he will get thru this with a clean game,
but not to be. Although don't know why that was not overturned on replay. What the hell were they looking at?
Geez, his elbow clearly hit the white boundary.
you people with the back foot throw dive me nuts. When you have defenders in your face and about to tackle you the back foot throw is all you can do. As a matter of fact if you can't thro w off your back foot you can't play QB in the NFL. he was throwing the ball out of the end sone and couldn't get enough on it. his mistake was waiting too long to try and make something happen bc his receiving corps is average at best. Minus Slayton the others all have major flaws and the ability to get open is the biggest.
Also, we just moved on from a QB that will undoubtedly be in the Hall of fame, potentially on the first ballot, and who led the NFL in interceptions for much of his career. the positives on Daniel jones are things that cannot be taught. toughness, accuracy, ability to stand in the pocket.
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Obviously he missed throwing out of the EZ right?
Yep that's exactly what you want the young QB to do, throw off the back foot. Glad you are not his QB coach.
Success is all about being able to run the football. Until you are consistent at doing that, (and thus also having the threat of the run as well) you won't be good in the red zone.
Whether the red zone woes are play calling or talent, to me it looks like all of the above. Guys not winning one on ones in short space. Coaches aren't scheming a whole lot of creative plays. Oline not moving men well enough to just "pound it in".
Ee are grind it out to the 5 yard line before even taking a shot in the endzone. It is much tougher to throw in those situations because you habve the entire defense inside of a 10 yard box. They don't have the receiving talent to play like that. We don't have a single good redzone target, a big/long/strong guy that you can trust to win off the line and come down with a contested catch. Also dont have a running game that you can you can trust to punch it in when you need 8 yards in 2 or 3 plays.
The 15 play drives that plays for the 1st down is just a terrible way to run this offense with this talent. More chances to make mistakes, too many drives that end in field goals ir turnovers. Need to take shots at the endzone around the 20 and spread the defense a bit. Daniel Jones excells when throwing downfield at a 1on1 matchup and making those plays happen should be a priority, instead it seems like Garrett is doing whatever he can to avoid those situations.
i mean its really not hard to defend the Giants at this point.
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year?
Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Quote:
According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
He had healthy EE, Shep, and Tate. He also had Saquon which defenses had to account for.
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Quote:
According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
The pick yesterday, he throws off his back foot.
If that is his receiver in the back of the EZ, it's okay
to make that throw...but it wasn't.
I was saying about 5 minutes before that throw,
maybe he will get thru this with a clean game,
but not to be. Although don't know why that was not overturned on replay. What the hell were they looking at?
Geez, his elbow clearly hit the white boundary.
He also only had Engram healthy for 6 of those 12 games.
And Shepard for 7 of the 12.
As we all know he has 0 games with all of the weapons together until the Chicago game this year (where he proceeded to lose both Shep + Barkley).
So sorry but I'm not buying that Saquon and Shepard going down is the entire problem this year vs. last year.
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Daniel Jones red-zone passing stats in 2019:
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Quote:
According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
.
The pick yesterday, he throws off his back foot.
If that is his receiver in the back of the EZ, it's okay
to make that throw...but it wasn't.
I was saying about 5 minutes before that throw,
maybe he will get thru this with a clean game,
but not to be. Although don't know why that was not overturned on replay. What the hell were they looking at?
Geez, his elbow clearly hit the white boundary.
you people with the back foot throw dive me nuts. When you have defenders in your face and about to tackle you the back foot throw is all you can do. As a matter of fact if you can't thro w off your back foot you can't play QB in the NFL. he was throwing the ball out of the end sone and couldn't get enough on it. his mistake was waiting too long to try and make something happen bc his receiving corps is average at best. Minus Slayton the others all have major flaws and the ability to get open is the biggest.
Also, we just moved on from a QB that will undoubtedly be in the Hall of fame, potentially on the first ballot, and who led the NFL in interceptions for much of his career. the positives on Daniel jones are things that cannot be taught. toughness, accuracy, ability to stand in the pocket.
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Daniel Jones red-zone passing stats in 2019:
🔹 13 TDs
🔹 0 INTs
Quote:
According to Pro Football Focus, Jones threw 13 touchdowns in the red zone last year while not tossing a single interception. In fact, the second-year quarterback has not thrown a red zone interception since his sophomore campaign at Duke, an impressive stretch spanning a couple of years.
Remind me again which receivers he had last year that he doesn't have this year? Daniel Jones' numbers in red zone - ( New Window )
.
The pick yesterday, he throws off his back foot.
If that is his receiver in the back of the EZ, it's okay
to make that throw...but it wasn't.
I was saying about 5 minutes before that throw,
maybe he will get thru this with a clean game,
but not to be. Although don't know why that was not overturned on replay. What the hell were they looking at?
Geez, his elbow clearly hit the white boundary.
you people with the back foot throw dive me nuts. When you have defenders in your face and about to tackle you the back foot throw is all you can do. As a matter of fact if you can't thro w off your back foot you can't play QB in the NFL. he was throwing the ball out of the end sone and couldn't get enough on it. his mistake was waiting too long to try and make something happen bc his receiving corps is average at best. Minus Slayton the others all have major flaws and the ability to get open is the biggest.
Also, we just moved on from a QB that will undoubtedly be in the Hall of fame, potentially on the first ballot, and who led the NFL in interceptions for much of his career. the positives on Daniel jones are things that cannot be taught. toughness, accuracy, ability to stand in the pocket.
Obviously he missed throwing out of the EZ right?
Yep that's exactly what you want the young QB to do, throw off the back foot. Glad you are not his QB coach.
The 15 play drives that plays for the 1st down is just a terrible way to run this offense with this talent. More chances to make mistakes, too many drives that end in field goals ir turnovers. Need to take shots at the endzone around the 20 and spread the defense a bit. Daniel Jones excells when throwing downfield at a 1on1 matchup and making those plays happen should be a priority, instead it seems like Garrett is doing whatever he can to avoid those situations.