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Cowboys are imploding?

nygiants16 : 10/20/2020 1:25 pm
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#Cowboys players initially bought into keeping things internal. Now as they sit 2-4 the discontent is leaking out. On the coaching staff “totally unprepared. They don’t teach. They don’t have any sense of adjusting on the fly.” Another “they just aren’t good at their jobs”

One can only hope somewhere Aaron Rodgers is smiling
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Perhaps  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?

they should be 1-5  
mittenedman : 10/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
if not getting a gift-wrapped win vs. the Giants. So they can at least rejoice that the officials are doing everything they can to keep them relevant.

Giants should be 2-4, with a shot to get to 3-4 Thursday night.
RE: Perhaps  
Tom in NY : 10/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15015913 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?


Let's not get crazy Eric ;)
NFC East supremacy is up for grabs these next few years.  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
Hopefully the Giants get their act together.
RE: they should be 1-5  
nygiants16 : 10/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15015914 mittenedman said:
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if not getting a gift-wrapped win vs. the Giants. So they can at least rejoice that the officials are doing everything they can to keep them relevant.

Giants should be 2-4, with a shot to get to 3-4 Thursday night.


They should be 0-6, they got a gift from the Falcolns
good point Eric  
mittenedman : 10/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
They've rolled the dice with a lot of volatile, big personalities. That can go either way.
RE: they should be 1-5  
terz22 : 10/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15015914 mittenedman said:
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if not getting a gift-wrapped win vs. the Giants. So they can at least rejoice that the officials are doing everything they can to keep them relevant.

Giants should be 2-4, with a shot to get to 3-4 Thursday night.


Even could be 0-6 if wasnt for the Falcons absolute choke job.
RE: they should be 1-5  
Tom in NY : 10/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15015914 mittenedman said:
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if not getting a gift-wrapped win vs. the Giants. So they can at least rejoice that the officials are doing everything they can to keep them relevant.

Giants should be 2-4, with a shot to get to 3-4 Thursday night.


Easily could be 0-6...remember the huge lead Atlanta blew? It eventually cost their HC his job.
Daks price tag holding firm despite the injury  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
.
RE: they should be 1-5  
Ceez2.0 : 10/20/2020 1:30 pm : link
In comment 15015914 mittenedman said:
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if not getting a gift-wrapped win vs. the Giants. So they can at least rejoice that the officials are doing everything they can to keep them relevant.

Giants should be 2-4, with a shot to get to 3-4 Thursday night.


0-6. Don't forget the idiot Falcons....
If I'm McCarthy....  
Tom in NY : 10/20/2020 1:31 pm : link
I make sure of a win this Sunday at Washington.

Might be a career-altering day otherwise.
This is what I hoped for  
JonC : 10/20/2020 1:31 pm : link
when they hired McCarthy.

I don't think Garrett's a great coach either, but get the sense he works hard at it regardless.
RE: If I'm McCarthy....  
nygiants16 : 10/20/2020 1:31 pm : link
In comment 15015931 Tom in NY said:
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I make sure of a win this Sunday at Washington.

Might be a career-altering day otherwise.


That Redskins pass rush is going to kill Dalton...
RE: Perhaps  
barens : 10/20/2020 1:32 pm : link
In comment 15015913 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?


And perhaps McCarthy is a bad coach?
McCarthy has always  
bigbluehoya : 10/20/2020 1:35 pm : link
struck me as an absolute douchebag and I couldn't be happier to see it unfolding like this.
They IMPLODE the week AFTER we play them?!?!  
Dinger : 10/20/2020 1:36 pm : link
Dammit our timing is horrendous. Well by the time January 3rd rolls around they'll be world beaters again. Or at least Giant slayers....:(
McCarthy stinks  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2020 1:36 pm : link
was carried by Rodgers, the whole league knew it. Lasted about 5 years too long because of it. Bad in game coach, never seemed like they had a good game plan either. Was very happy Dallas hired him.
Time will tell whether Rhule or Judge  
Metnut : 10/20/2020 1:38 pm : link
would've been the better hire, but I'm certainly happy we passed on McCarthy.
RE: Perhaps  
FStubbs : 10/20/2020 1:39 pm : link
In comment 15015913 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?


No, but he's probably better than Mike McCarthy.
I never thought McCarthy was a good coach. Alot of people  
Victor in CT : 10/20/2020 1:39 pm : link
wanted the Giants to hire him. He and many others in GB got rich from being made to look smart by Aaron Rodgers.
RE: This is what I hoped for  
giants#1 : 10/20/2020 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15015933 JonC said:
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when they hired McCarthy.

I don't think Garrett's a great coach either, but get the sense he works hard at it regardless.


Garrett's an average coach. Comparable to Marvin Lewis in that regard.

Was very happy we didn't get McCarthy. I have no idea if Judge will bust, be the next BB, or somewhere in between, but avoiding McCarthy was a huge win this offseason.
RE: McCarthy stinks  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2020 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15015953 UConn4523 said:
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was carried by Rodgers, the whole league knew it. Lasted about 5 years too long because of it. Bad in game coach, never seemed like they had a good game plan either. Was very happy Dallas hired him.
IIRC a lot of Jets fans were hoping they'd hire McCarthy. Joe Beningo was pretty vocal about it on WFAN. Would he have been better than Gase? Choose your poison.

Surprised that Gase still has his job. McCarthy may not survive the season.
And McCarthy is Bill Walsh...  
Milton : 10/20/2020 1:41 pm : link
...compared to Mike Nolan!
People talk of McCarthy  
SLIM_ : 10/20/2020 1:42 pm : link
but what really is his role (Somewhat sarcastic)?

The guy's claim to fame was a playcaller for Rodgers. He really didn't appear to have a hand in the defense or special teams. Now he goes to a team that isn't even running his offense.

He was one guy that I absolutely did not want for the Giants. It is very early yet but he basically took a veteran team and it sucks hard. I don't blame injuries because I think many coaches would be envious of the talent that was on the field last night for them.
RE: I never thought McCarthy was a good coach. Alot of people  
Scooter185 : 10/20/2020 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15015963 Victor in CT said:
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wanted the Giants to hire him. He and many others in GB got rich from being made to look smart by Aaron Rodgers.


My best friend is a GB fan, and based of what he tol me, let me tell you I was dreading the thought of NYG hiring McCarthy
losing that game in Dallas  
ryanmkeane : 10/20/2020 1:45 pm : link
really was bullshit. we had it.
RE: Perhaps  
santacruzom : 10/20/2020 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15015913 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?


I don't think he was great, but I also never thought Mike McCarthy was great either. Glad neither of them became our head coach, that's for sure.
McCarthy  
ryanmkeane : 10/20/2020 1:47 pm : link
pretty much admitted that he lied about all the work he had done in the offseason in order to get the Cowboys job. That was weird.
what did  
mittenedman : 10/20/2020 1:48 pm : link
he say ryankeane?
they key to their implosion is the implosion of their OL  
Eric on Li : 10/20/2020 1:49 pm : link
and to a slightly lesser extent their defense getting worse over time. Obviously Dak getting hurt was enormous too. But even in the first few weeks when some of those things weren't as bad as they are now they looked like a terribly coached team.

more frustrating than their implosion continuing on the heels of playing us, is that for some reason officials have had some brutal calls against them that have cost them games - and yet for some reason their game against us was the exception where 2 TD's came off the board.
Is Kellen Moore a viable replacement?  
Dinger : 10/20/2020 1:51 pm : link
I like his play calling, at least against us.
RE: McCarthy  
Section331 : 10/20/2020 1:54 pm : link
In comment 15015985 ryanmkeane said:
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pretty much admitted that he lied about all the work he had done in the offseason in order to get the Cowboys job. That was weird.


Yeah, that was weird. He put a bullseye on his back by admitting he lied to Jones about watching every Dallas down last season. I guess he has his guaranteed money.
RE: they key to their implosion is the implosion of their OL  
Section331 : 10/20/2020 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15015992 Eric on Li said:
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and to a slightly lesser extent their defense getting worse over time. Obviously Dak getting hurt was enormous too. But even in the first few weeks when some of those things weren't as bad as they are now they looked like a terribly coached team.


I'm not sure I agree that their defense is the lesser extent. It is brutal, and is on track to be the worst in NFL history. They gave up 7.5 yds per carry last night! AZ didn't even play particularly well, and won by 4 TD's.

That said, they still might win the division.
RE: they should be 1-5  
cjac : 10/20/2020 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15015914 mittenedman said:
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if not getting a gift-wrapped win vs. the Giants. So they can at least rejoice that the officials are doing everything they can to keep them relevant.

Giants should be 2-4, with a shot to get to 3-4 Thursday night.


They should be 0-6, Atlanta win was gift wrapped too
..  
djm : 10/20/2020 2:16 pm : link
He better cut back on those massages  
BH28 : 10/20/2020 2:22 pm : link
...
RE: Perhaps  
djm : 10/20/2020 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15015913 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?


Now this is the one I really really really want to be right about. And full disclosure, I plan on screaming this daily around here and proudly pounding my chest if this McCarthy tenure here spirals into gloriously awful, lengthy, and painful ruin.

RE: This is what I hoped for  
djm : 10/20/2020 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15015933 JonC said:
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when they hired McCarthy.

I don't think Garrett's a great coach either, but get the sense he works hard at it regardless.


That's my take too. Garrett probably isn't great but he's not bad and there's a big difference between the two. Garrett was consistent in Dallas. He got the most out of some important players.
Here is the link to the Yahoo Sports Article  
ZogZerg : 10/20/2020 2:28 pm : link
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Jane Slater
@SlaterNFL
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#Cowboys players initially bought into keeping things internal. Now as they sit 2-4 the discontent is leaking out. On the coaching staff “totally unprepared. They don’t teach. They don’t have any sense of adjusting on the fly.” Another “they just aren’t good at their jobs”

Mike McCarthy says 'didn't coach very well' in the Cowboys' loss Monday. His players reportedly agree - ( New Window )
I think there is some chance  
Oscar : 10/20/2020 2:30 pm : link
Jerry brings Garrett back next year.
RE: I think there is some chance  
SGMen : 10/20/2020 2:41 pm : link
In comment 15016062 Oscar said:
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Jerry brings Garrett back next year.
Never happen now. I see Garrett as OC next year and then once we have a successful season and offense he'll find another HC job. I see him staying two years.
RE: And McCarthy is Bill Walsh...  
NINEster : 10/20/2020 2:56 pm : link
In comment 15015969 Milton said:
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...compared to Mike Nolan!


True dat.
Cowboys are often frontrunners too  
JonC : 10/20/2020 3:00 pm : link
they live in some crazy bubble down there.
I think the only reason that Jerry Jones hired.....  
MOOPS : 10/20/2020 3:07 pm : link
Mike McCarthy was that he saw a family resemblence.

How about dem Cowboys  
CowboyHaters : 10/20/2020 3:32 pm : link
God, do I despise their fans.
Just hope they don't end up with Lawrence.  
rasbutant : 10/20/2020 3:36 pm : link
Or Fields.
That’s what  
Les in TO : 10/20/2020 3:38 pm : link
You get for hiring Boss Hogg as your head coach
RE: Perhaps  
Ivan15 : 10/20/2020 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15015913 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?


You can be a bad coach and win for a year with someone else’s players, ala McAdoo. When you coach one team for 10 years, you can’t get away with that. Garrett may not have been the best HC but he wasn’t the worst or even close to being bad.
RE: Perhaps  
DonQuixote : 10/20/2020 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15015913 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't such a bad coach?


I agree.

I am also think McCarthy was not a good hire. The story posted by the OP was not a surprise given his history. And remember, after he left GB, they won 6 more games the following year. I think the Cowboys traded down with respect to coaching.
RE: Just hope they don't end up with Lawrence.  
JohnB : 10/20/2020 3:55 pm : link
In comment 15016149 rasbutant said:
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Or Fields.


Which means they are giving up on Dak and that will never happen.
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