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NFT: Carton WFAN return "Imminent"

Danny Kanell : 10/20/2020 3:18 pm
Looks like he will take over the afternoon drive and be paired with Evan. Beningo is headed for retirement. The show could begin as early as next month.

I actually think these 2 could work together. Carton as the buffoon and Evan as the knowledgeable host.



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Carton  
GF1080 : 10/20/2020 3:25 pm : link
It's really unbelievable the know nothing who stole money can just waltz back in and get a job.
People  
rocco8112 : 10/20/2020 3:33 pm : link
found by him enjoyable on the air?
The Midday has often had some odd couples  
NoPeanutz : 10/20/2020 3:34 pm : link
back in the glory days. Russ and Somers. Sid and everybody.
RE: Carton  
mfsd : 10/20/2020 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15016129 GF1080 said:
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It's really unbelievable the know nothing who stole money can just waltz back in and get a job.


He’ll get ratings. Controversial sells
That sucks.  
RodneyHamp : 10/20/2020 3:42 pm : link
I like Evan a lot, but won’t listen at all if that shitstain is his co-host.
RE: RE: Carton  
Victor in CT : 10/20/2020 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15016147 mfsd said:
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It's really unbelievable the know nothing who stole money can just waltz back in and get a job.



He’ll get ratings. Controversial sells


more like stupid listens to stupid. there's nothing controversial about him. he's just an idiot vulgarian.

that said, I'm pretty well done with the FAN anyway. Beningo's whining getting stale, now listening to these two go on about gambling all day just seals it.
Evan deserves better than  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2020 3:45 pm : link
this. FUCK Chernoff.
and there will be multiple threads a week on here  
jlukes : 10/20/2020 3:47 pm : link
complaining about him.

mission accomplished
What a joke  
Optimus-NY : 10/20/2020 3:47 pm : link
I like Evan. He's a Sports nerd and has earned some cred with hardcore fans. FAN won't get any listens from me as long as Cartoon is there.
I'll miss  
Enzo : 10/20/2020 3:52 pm : link
Joe when he decides to retire. Been listening to him for about 25 years.
Vomit  
terz22 : 10/20/2020 3:59 pm : link
We ll ill never listen to the FAN again what a joke.
Evan is the best one on WFAN right now.  
GiantGolfer : 10/20/2020 4:02 pm : link
I feel bad for him.
I don't know about you guys, but I find the nonstop gambling hype  
Victor in CT : 10/20/2020 4:02 pm : link
to be boring and annoying.
It's difficult to argue that justice was served  
moespree : 10/20/2020 4:05 pm : link
Stole millions, didn't even do half his sentence, got to declare bankruptcy on his millions in debts and now will be back with a high 6 figure salary with his debt wiped clean.
Also I should add  
moespree : 10/20/2020 4:07 pm : link
They will be a terrible team in my opinion. They don't match up well at all. Different interests. The type of things Evan talks about bore Carton and the types of things Carton talks about bore Evan. Also they'll be in a constant battle for control of the show and always talking over each other.

Should make for some show.
RE: It's difficult to argue that justice was served  
Victor in CT : 10/20/2020 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15016183 moespree said:
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Stole millions, didn't even do half his sentence, got to declare bankruptcy on his millions in debts and now will be back with a high 6 figure salary with his debt wiped clean.


AND he preyed on FAN listeners for some of that loot! How do you let him back in the building?!!
Man that’s awful  
Oscar : 10/20/2020 4:11 pm : link
Joe and Evan is the only reason I listen to the FAN anymore. I could tolerate Evan solo, add Carton to the mix and I’m out. There are plenty of other options.

Sucks for Evan he has a promising career going.
They’re putting Evan in a brutal spot..  
Sean : 10/20/2020 4:12 pm : link
I don’t see Carton as an afternoon drive sports host.
that's the big part of it for me  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2020 4:13 pm : link
people who served their time should get another shot on life. But that doesn't mean get back everything you had, nor does it mean you get to make money off talking to the people you stole from. Add in he didn't even serve his time and I just don't get it. A really scummy decision from Chernoff.
I stand by my belief  
bradshaw44 : 10/20/2020 4:25 pm : link
That he didn't take somebody over there down with him. And this is his repayment for that.
RE: I stand by my belief  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2020 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15016209 bradshaw44 said:
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That he didn't take somebody over there down with him. And this is his repayment for that.


It certainly sounds like it.
“...he is still on the hook to repay his creditors $5 million”  
Daniel in Kentucky : 10/20/2020 4:29 pm : link
That’s good news at least.
RE: I stand by my belief  
Enzo : 10/20/2020 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15016209 bradshaw44 said:
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That he didn't take somebody over there down with him. And this is his repayment for that.

makes sense. Although I lean more towards Chernoff just being completely inept.
Have you guys seen his HBO documentary  
Drewcon40 : 10/20/2020 4:35 pm : link
it came out earlier this month on HBO so you may be able to find it on Demand. What he did was a crime and I am not excusing it, but after watching you might soften up a bit. I understand it may have been slanted to have Craig come out in a better light but you may dislike him a bit less.
RE: “...he is still on the hook to repay his creditors $5 million”  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2020 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15016216 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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That’s good news at least.


Except the way our fucked up systems is he pretty much pays it off like its a fucking student loan. Essentially 10 percent of anything above a certain amount (generally basic living expenses) goes to paying restitution. I believe thats the way those generally work. Pretty sure Jordan Belfort has a similar thing goin on.
the disconnect for me  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/20/2020 4:51 pm : link
is that his shtick is being an arrogrant, condescending prick with a devil-may-care attitude and it's even more grating to hear it knowing that he is a full-blown criminal degenerate who ripped off innocent people. Fuck that guy.

I'm glad he'll make money to pay back his creditors, but other than that, this show is a "no" for me.
Does Evan have veto power?  
PA Aggie : 10/20/2020 5:10 pm : link
As many on this thread have said, Joe and Evan are the best WFAN has to offer. If and when Joe does retire, a 'big' controlling personality like Carton will not work. Generally speaking, good radio has the alpha, and then the beta. TV is like that too. Joe and Evan fit nicely into that. Carton will probably drive Evan nuts, but Evan is too nice a guy to blow Carton up.
If it happens, I will listen to see what the dynamic is like. But I am not optimistic on long tern success.
RE: Carton  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/20/2020 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15016129 GF1080 said:
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It's really unbelievable the know nothing who stole money can just waltz back in and get a job.

Let's be careful about throwing around the term "know nothing" when he probably knows infinitely more than some of the posters here.

Should he get such a high profile job again? I have mixed feelings about that, but there's a really easy way to voice your opinion about it - don't tune in and don't purchase any products promoted during their show. That's how media works.

But let's be honest... you're going to tune in. And if they happen to promote a product you like, you're gonna buy that, too. And then you'll wonder how such a "know nothing" got his job back.
I'm gonna write WFAN and tell them they lost a listener  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2020 5:27 pm : link
Not that they care. But the guy is complete scum
For the longest time, I couldn’t stand Boomer & Carton.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/20/2020 5:42 pm : link
Then one day Boomer did the show with Phil Simms and it was hilarious. I realized the problem wasn’t Boomer... it was Carton. He’s awful and makes Boomer insufferable.
RE: RE: Carton  
GF1080 : 10/20/2020 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15016282 Gatorade Dunk said:
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It's really unbelievable the know nothing who stole money can just waltz back in and get a job.


Let's be careful about throwing around the term "know nothing" when he probably knows infinitely more than some of the posters here.

Should he get such a high profile job again? I have mixed feelings about that, but there's a really easy way to voice your opinion about it - don't tune in and don't purchase any products promoted during their show. That's how media works.

But let's be honest... you're going to tune in. And if they happen to promote a product you like, you're gonna buy that, too. And then you'll wonder how such a "know nothing" got his job back.


Wrong on all of the above. I really only watch the morning show because I like Gio. Joe sucks so never listened to him and Evan. Definitely will not tune into criminal Carton but good try trying to peg me.
Kinda can't wait  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2020 6:10 pm : link
to hear all the callers get hung up on for referencing his legal woes and prison time.

Hell, I kinda want to.
I think evan and mike would have done well  
Joey from GlenCove : 10/20/2020 7:07 pm : link
carton is a zoo guy, dont really see him discussing sports for 5 hours.

i do think he will beat out kay to start
I was a devoted WFAN listener when it debuted,  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2020 7:10 pm : link
listening on my Walkman, when the shows were much more national in focus and sounded a lot less like New York than they have lately. After I moved to Los Angeles, I would listen every time I visited NYC. When I could stream it, I'd listen to it in the morning (Joe & Evan's midday show was my morning "drive time" on Pacific time.)

But let's face it, Beningo and Somers are aging and Francesa's on-again/off-again/on-again retirement sort of ratfucked them in afternoon drive time. They haven't got a deep bench of appealing, provocative hosts, and the CBS Sports Radio people are a flashback to the bad old days of early WFAN, much too national and not very interesting for a NY sports fan.

I don't envy the station management. They have a lot of problems.
“Hey Craig”  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2020 7:24 pm : link
First time long time since prison, what’s the over under on times you dropped the soap in the showers”? I’ll hang up and listen
That sucks  
Banks : 10/20/2020 7:31 pm : link
I love Evan and Joe. Evan is knowledgeable and Joe is funny. Their chemistry is great. I can't see this working with Evan. I'll miss the bro
Beningo has been dropping hints forever  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2020 7:38 pm : link
that he wants to call it quits. I like Evan; knowledgeable & seems like a good dude. But pairing him with Carton, who is a total POS...ugh.
Sounds like oil and water to me  
weeg in the bronx : 10/20/2020 9:02 pm : link
Not really liking the idea of Evan having to play the straight man. He'd be better with moose in mid morning, pair Maggie with Evan. Either way I won't listen to him.
RE: I don't know about you guys, but I find the nonstop gambling hype  
Matt M. : 10/20/2020 9:07 pm : link
In comment 15016181 Victor in CT said:
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to be boring and annoying.
+1 here. It's a turnoff for me.
This seems like such a dumbass move  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2020 9:08 pm : link
Short term? I am absolutely going to listen to a few months to listen to prank calls. But after that? Cartons only spot is in the morning in sports bringing a little energy. Does anyone want to listen to him In afternoon? And that’s coming from someone that actually like listening to him and boomer. Mostly because he made boomer look like the jackass he is daily but still.
RE: RE: I don't know about you guys, but I find the nonstop gambling hype  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2020 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15016473 Matt M. said:
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to be boring and annoying.

+1 here. It's a turnoff for me.


Yeh I’m a fucking degenerate and it sounds so cheesy.
That radio station  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2020 9:12 pm : link
Has taken such a meteoric fall from the top. From the dissolition of Mike and the Mad Dog, to the first iteration of Carton, to Bart Scott getting major air time, to the rehiring of Francessa to now rehiring of Carton. Just an awful product
RE: the disconnect for me  
Matt M. : 10/20/2020 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15016246 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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is that his shtick is being an arrogrant, condescending prick with a devil-may-care attitude and it's even more grating to hear it knowing that he is a full-blown criminal degenerate who ripped off innocent people. Fuck that guy.

I'm glad he'll make money to pay back his creditors, but other than that, this show is a "no" for me.
Excellent analogy. How does his schtick work now? For me it didn't work in the fist place. Now, forget about it.
Ratings will instantly  
theold5j : 10/20/2020 9:14 pm : link
Be through the roof for carton
RE: Kinda can't wait  
Matt M. : 10/20/2020 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15016345 Bramton1 said:
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to hear all the callers get hung up on for referencing his legal woes and prison time.

Hell, I kinda want to.
And he'll act shocked and upset anyone would do that.
RE: That radio station  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2020 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15016479 chopperhatch said:
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Has taken such a meteoric fall from the top. From the dissolition of Mike and the Mad Dog, to the first iteration of Carton, to Bart Scott getting major air time, to the rehiring of Francessa to now rehiring of Carton. Just an awful product
I kind of agree. I don't know what the answer is, but they really need a reboot. Sports-talk in NYC should be a slam dunk, but you need personalities who walk the line between "big" and "obnoxious." Mike and the Mad Dog were often on the wrong side of that line but were compelling radio. So was Carton (I couldn't stand that guy.) Beningo and Roberts are pretty much in the sweet spot. Moose and Maggie, not "big" enough IMO, though they're not awful -- it just feels to me like they're straining all the time to be provocative.

It's very tough to find people who are authentic, energetic, compelling and provocative — and who'll stick around.
First of all, I will never listen to a single minute of him  
Matt M. : 10/20/2020 9:30 pm : link
Just not happening. Second of all, it is deplorable that he would be re-hired by that station. Second chance? Sure. Go work for it like everyone else. But, giving this degenerate the same platform to talk gambling to same fans he defrauded because of his past gambling woes just belies logic. He should never be allowed anywhere near a sports radio station again, where there is the potential for insider information and resources to aid more gambling by him. The fact that their shows talk incessantly about gambling now is further reason for him to be nowhere near the air.

Now, my dilemma is how to tell them my views. I can't find contact information for Chernoff or the station.
WFAN  
TyreeHelmet : 10/22/2020 10:50 am : link
Is a complete mess. To me Joe and Evan was the last semblance of their original roots. And this pairing is not going to work.

And to the above poster- Carton is a "know nothing". He's also schtick and lacks any in depth sports knowledge. I'm sure people will tune in at first but this will not last.
RE: RE: RE: Carton  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/22/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 15016323 GF1080 said:
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In comment 15016129 GF1080 said:


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It's really unbelievable the know nothing who stole money can just waltz back in and get a job.


Let's be careful about throwing around the term "know nothing" when he probably knows infinitely more than some of the posters here.

Should he get such a high profile job again? I have mixed feelings about that, but there's a really easy way to voice your opinion about it - don't tune in and don't purchase any products promoted during their show. That's how media works.

But let's be honest... you're going to tune in. And if they happen to promote a product you like, you're gonna buy that, too. And then you'll wonder how such a "know nothing" got his job back.



Wrong on all of the above. I really only watch the morning show because I like Gio. Joe sucks so never listened to him and Evan. Definitely will not tune into criminal Carton but good try trying to peg me.

Well then, no worries - bad ratings and poor ROAS by show sponsors will ensure that Carton's return will be short-lived.
RE: Have you guys seen his HBO documentary  
Sonic Youth : 10/22/2020 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15016227 Drewcon40 said:
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it came out earlier this month on HBO so you may be able to find it on Demand. What he did was a crime and I am not excusing it, but after watching you might soften up a bit. I understand it may have been slanted to have Craig come out in a better light but you may dislike him a bit less.
It did seem slanted towards Craig, but it was an engrossing watch, and it did make me come away with a better impression of him.

My favorite part of the doc though is that Jerry Recco and Al Dukes drive to work together every morning. Idk why, but that was heartwarming and hilarious.
.  
Banks : 10/22/2020 1:25 pm : link
The documentary was pretty good and it did make me feel for him a bit. However, it bugged me that he didn't own up to everything fully. He had a line in there where he said something to the effect of "the only thing I'm guilty of is spending the money sooner than I should have. I still bought all the things they expected". I'm like c'mon man
Documentary  
jestersdead : 10/22/2020 1:59 pm : link
I haven't watched it yet and will do my best to watch it. But if you don't think the documentary about Carton, which he probably gets interviewed in, isn't going to be a puff piece to get him back into sports talk radio, you're looking at it differently than me.
RE: .  
TyreeHelmet : 10/22/2020 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15017928 Banks said:
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The documentary was pretty good and it did make me feel for him a bit. However, it bugged me that he didn't own up to everything fully. He had a line in there where he said something to the effect of "the only thing I'm guilty of is spending the money sooner than I should have. I still bought all the things they expected". I'm like c'mon man


Carton is a true scumbag through and through. A short stint in white collar prison isn't changing that.
Moral turpitude aside, Carton in unlistenable.  
GeofromNJ : 10/22/2020 5:06 pm : link
The Post is also reporting that Carton may not be paired with Roberts and that Roberts may instead be paired with Maggie Gray. This duo would make for stellar sports talk radio. I'm sure Malusis is a nice guy and his wife and kids love him, but he monopolizes the air when paired with Maggie and tends to bellow the obvious.
Maggie  
mitch300 : 10/22/2020 6:24 pm : link
Voice makes my ears bleed. Please no Maggie and Evan. I think Evan is the best talent Wfan has.
RE: .  
Matt M. : 10/22/2020 6:43 pm : link
In comment 15017928 Banks said:
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The documentary was pretty good and it did make me feel for him a bit. However, it bugged me that he didn't own up to everything fully. He had a line in there where he said something to the effect of "the only thing I'm guilty of is spending the money sooner than I should have. I still bought all the things they expected". I'm like c'mon man
Really Carton? Then how do you explain selling tickets and other items that weren't in your possession?
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