They can also just drop the "Football Team" and just be "Washington". If there weren't 2 teams here I'd be perfectly fine if it was just "New York" as well.
I'm sure they already know what their next name will be
Red Storm ... Rising’. ... It would honor Tom Clancy who grew up in a Baltimore and was a huge sports fan ... he tried to buy the Vikings at 1 point ....
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
Bill - I agree eith you that paying homage to someone or something is silly and not necessary. Logos and mascots may be silly and juvenile, but they are also fun for a lot of fans. That's what sports should be; fun. I like the idea of selecting something indigenous to the region, if possible. Hell, even for teams that moved, like the Jazz and Lakers, after some time that doesn't seem weird any longer. But, initially it is a nice touch, I think.
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
But even in soccer, those teams have nicknames. Arsenal is the Arsenal FC, but they are also the Gunners. Fans need something to say other than "Football Club"
RE: RE: I still think that the whole concept of mascots and team names
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better.
That's actually one of the things I hate the most about soccer.
I have to say, really wanting mascots is the most un Greg-like thing I could have imagined. Who's posting for you today?
Soccer has it right, mascots are corny at the professional level. In the grand scheme of things I don't really care since there's history but if we were the NY Football Team i'd be perfectly fine with it.
I successfully made my first pulled pork on Sunday. It was awesome. That's why the Giants won and we all know it. They should be the hogs. All I ever think of when I hear Washington and that ugly red colored jersey is pork.
in Soccer I root for Everton which is located in Liverpool. But Liverpool is also its own team and they go by....Liverpool.
Very difficult!
But their fans call them the Reds
When you think about it, our fans call the Giants (and associated personnel) all sorts of things which are not officially part of the team nomenclature. I guess it is common.
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
Let's take a trip in the wayback machine. The first professional sport, baseball, used to be similar to european soccer. Although you can find instances of team nicknames throughout baseballs history (Knickerbockers, spiders), they were usually unofficial, and names like Boston Baseball Club or New York 9 were common, or were descriptors of the uniform or location (Red Stockings, Hartfords, Gothams)
This lasted up though the early 1900s, and nicknames continued to be more fluid. The Dodgers went through multiple names, and for dual league cities like Boston, you'd end up with Americans and Nationals as the descriptors. Fans and papers may have had nicknames for their teams, but still not really official. For example the Yankees only became the Yankees because Highlanders (which itself was just used because of the location of the park) was a very long word in the newspaper. So the paper changed it.
Eventually the nicknames stuck and became official, and when the NFL was formed they followed suit, often just copying, or at least being inspired by, the name of the MLB team.
So if you want to be mad that we're Giants fans and not New York National Football Club fans, blame baseball.
that's one of the most fascinating things about Euro Soccer - the fans have such a huge impact on the teams. It truly is "their team" in most cases. I don't condone the violence that goes with it (the extreme hooliganism) but its just a much different vibe than professional sports in the states.
My point is that I find "Washington Football Team" more interesting than some randomly chosen mascot. People can obviously disagree. I think many existing, official mascots are worse than Washington Football Team.
The difference between an offical and unofficial nickname is the widespread usage in official contexts (PR, marketing, scoreboards, news articles, etc.). The other is an informal nickname that gives fans something else to yell. If widespread enough, people adopt it and even the team will adopt it on some merch.
I mean, we both went to UVA. Do you call them the Cavaliers or do you refer to them as the Hoos/Wahoos? "Hoos" in and of itself might as well be gibberish. It's a nonsensical phrase that stuck. And fans are fine with it because it's about the unity rather than the actual word.
If WFT stayed as is, fans will find things to yell. And whether it's "Dubs" or "Washers" or something else that is generic, absurd, meaningful, or meaningless, life will go on and fans will cheer.
Football Team has grown on me. I think if they do change it, they should avoid anything with red in the name and probably should avoid "honoring" any group of people. It'll just create more controversy. Hogs is perfect. It's not controversial, they have merchandise already, it's a nod to their glory years, and a large portion of their fan base already love it.
The atitude that some American supposedly grown men
have about soccer makes me laugh. Like what other sport gets under people's skin like that? I really dislike baseball, but the end of the day sport are sports. I don't feel the need to announce to the world how much baseball sucks.
It's seriously what children do in something like baseball vs lacrosse.
have about soccer makes me laugh. Like what other sport gets under people's skin like that? I really dislike baseball, but the end of the day sport are sports. I don't feel the need to announce to the world how much baseball sucks.
It's seriously what children do in something like baseball vs lacrosse.
It's the internet. Liking something that someone else doesn't like is a crime
Alternatively, we could have a hybrid of FC for official stuff and then a cutsie nickname for the fans. Something that everyone likes. Baby seals for example. Although NYFC Baby Seals might be inappropriate.
have about soccer makes me laugh. Like what other sport gets under people's skin like that? I really dislike baseball, but the end of the day sport are sports. I don't feel the need to announce to the world how much baseball sucks.
It's seriously what children do in something like baseball vs lacrosse.
It's the internet. Liking something that someone else doesn't like is a crime
It's not that. It's the fact that soccers very existence seems to piss people off. It's really mind boggling. Like everytime someone brings up baseball I don't say OMG unbelievably boring, slow, and antiquated. How does anyone watch that trash.
That would be the most Snyder thing to do... just sell the rights to a corporation who can use their own branding. Walmart could buy it and they could be the "Great Value" football team.
Covid was probably a factor there in slowing things down.
Yeah, it's grown on me. They should just make it permanent. It has a nice ring to it.
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
Pigskins was the lowest hanging fruit, ostensibly couple have kept the skins nickname that way
People complained to change the name. They got what they wanted and there's still complaining about the name.
Football Team it is.
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
But knowing Snyder they will pick a shitty name to sell more merch.
That's actually one of the things I hate the most about soccer.
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
But even in soccer, those teams have nicknames. Arsenal is the Arsenal FC, but they are also the Gunners. Fans need something to say other than "Football Club"
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Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better.
That's actually one of the things I hate the most about soccer.
I have to say, really wanting mascots is the most un Greg-like thing I could have imagined. Who's posting for you today?
Soccer has it right, mascots are corny at the professional level. In the grand scheme of things I don't really care since there's history but if we were the NY Football Team i'd be perfectly fine with it.
Fuck soccer. Fuck everything about that worthless sport and whatever disgusting influences it's having on the American sporting public.
Fuck soccer. Fuck everything about that worthless sport and whatever disgusting influences it's having on the American sporting public.
You're such a baby, haha. Atleast its good for a laugh.
Very difficult!
If fans needed something to shout, they can say "Dubs."
Is "Dubs" stupid? Maybe. Any dumber than cheering for Knicks, Nets, Magic, Wizards, Heat, Lakers, Celtics, Jazz, Wild, Thrashers, Athletics?
Fuck soccer. Fuck everything about that worthless sport and whatever disgusting influences it's having on the American sporting public.
lol.
Very difficult!
But their fans call them the Reds
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in Soccer I root for Everton which is located in Liverpool. But Liverpool is also its own team and they go by....Liverpool.
Very difficult!
But their fans call them the Reds
When you think about it, our fans call the Giants (and associated personnel) all sorts of things which are not officially part of the team nomenclature. I guess it is common.
If fans needed something to shout, they can say "Dubs."
Is "Dubs" stupid? Maybe. Any dumber than cheering for Knicks, Nets, Magic, Wizards, Heat, Lakers, Celtics, Jazz, Wild, Thrashers, Athletics?
So what's the difference then if they have an unofficial nickname instead of an official nickname?
Soccer (not MLS) does it properly. Washington Football Club, NY Football Club, etc would be so much better. So, I am 100% for keeping it the WFT. And so many people talk about names as if they should pay homage to something or someone. Really? It's a football team.
Failing that, I truly believe they should sell naming rights for the team.
Let's take a trip in the wayback machine. The first professional sport, baseball, used to be similar to european soccer. Although you can find instances of team nicknames throughout baseballs history (Knickerbockers, spiders), they were usually unofficial, and names like Boston Baseball Club or New York 9 were common, or were descriptors of the uniform or location (Red Stockings, Hartfords, Gothams)
This lasted up though the early 1900s, and nicknames continued to be more fluid. The Dodgers went through multiple names, and for dual league cities like Boston, you'd end up with Americans and Nationals as the descriptors. Fans and papers may have had nicknames for their teams, but still not really official. For example the Yankees only became the Yankees because Highlanders (which itself was just used because of the location of the park) was a very long word in the newspaper. So the paper changed it.
Eventually the nicknames stuck and became official, and when the NFL was formed they followed suit, often just copying, or at least being inspired by, the name of the MLB team.
So if you want to be mad that we're Giants fans and not New York National Football Club fans, blame baseball.
Outside of branding opportunities team names don't really mean anything. Its strictly for marketing IMO. Their location is all that ever mattered.
Outside of branding opportunities team names don't really mean anything. Its strictly for marketing IMO. Their location is all that ever mattered.
The Black Watch and the Dogs of War are more fun ones for Everton.
The difference between an offical and unofficial nickname is the widespread usage in official contexts (PR, marketing, scoreboards, news articles, etc.). The other is an informal nickname that gives fans something else to yell. If widespread enough, people adopt it and even the team will adopt it on some merch.
I mean, we both went to UVA. Do you call them the Cavaliers or do you refer to them as the Hoos/Wahoos? "Hoos" in and of itself might as well be gibberish. It's a nonsensical phrase that stuck. And fans are fine with it because it's about the unity rather than the actual word.
If WFT stayed as is, fans will find things to yell. And whether it's "Dubs" or "Washers" or something else that is generic, absurd, meaningful, or meaningless, life will go on and fans will cheer.
It's seriously what children do in something like baseball vs lacrosse.
It's seriously what children do in something like baseball vs lacrosse.
It's the internet. Liking something that someone else doesn't like is a crime
Alternatively, we could have a hybrid of FC for official stuff and then a cutsie nickname for the fans. Something that everyone likes. Baby seals for example. Although NYFC Baby Seals might be inappropriate.
Part of me thinks Snyder is doing this on purpose to stick it to his w0ke fanbase
Part of me thinks Snyder is doing this on purpose to stick it to his w0ke fanbase
Shhh. The last thing we need to do is attract Sonic the hedgehog here.
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have about soccer makes me laugh. Like what other sport gets under people's skin like that? I really dislike baseball, but the end of the day sport are sports. I don't feel the need to announce to the world how much baseball sucks.
It's seriously what children do in something like baseball vs lacrosse.
It's the internet. Liking something that someone else doesn't like is a crime
It's not that. It's the fact that soccers very existence seems to piss people off. It's really mind boggling. Like everytime someone brings up baseball I don't say OMG unbelievably boring, slow, and antiquated. How does anyone watch that trash.
Similar to the Football Giants, maybe the Football Team will usually just be called the Team.
Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, and Team
New York plays Washington.
That's all.