I don't understand the WR depth chart

Slayton will also most likely play that is 4 wrs suited up, they can always bring up Backmqn from practice squad if needed

1 is already dinged in SLayton.

1 is coming off injury

I dont know, sounds like a recipe for being extremely shorthanded on Thursday.

With Shepard hurting; Slayton dinged; I have to think we bring up a PS receiver for depth. No way we don't go with five WR for this game...

they were in mediocre shape at WR coming into this season, they didn't do nearly enough to prepare at WR in terms of talent. I said it months ago, and now the injuries and lack of talent are painfully obvious.

Not gonna find much help sitting home on the couch. It's a 2021 hot need.

and Bennie Fowler up to these days?

free agency and pre-draft discussions.

Somehow in there this GM needed to add a Wide Receiver based on what the expected Depth Chart looked like. It appears the strategy was to rely on getting lucky with an UDFA.

Were they patting themselves on the back that they hit on Slayton in the 5th round last year?

and let Smith and the other TEs handle TE.

what really stands out in contrast to the Giants O is the emphasis on wideout speed throughout the league.

Besides the fact that Garrett uses almost no pre-snap motion and incorporates little to no misdirection in his offensive game calling - the across the board lack of speed on the Giants O is appalling.

Teams like KC and Arizona spread opposing Defenses out and continually threaten them vertically but also horizontally by pitching wr screens et al.

I would like to see Judge bring up Dillon who has to be the fastest wr on our current roster. Let him run 9 routes all day.

Put him in motion, let him run reverses or pitch him the ball near the sideline.

In other words, let Dillon's speed spread out the opposing secondary a bit and possibly open up some creases and windows for our other speed challenged receivers.

Skinners tapes of various positions show multiple times our WR's running into each other taking them out of their routes and out of the play. This may go back to what Judge means when he says players got to play better and coaches have to coach better.

Shepherd is still not active and just started practicing.
Slayton gas been limping for 2 weeks.
Leaves Mack and Tate as the only healthy WRs.
I expect they will pull 2 from practice squad today.

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and Bennie Fowler up to these days?

Preston Parker to the rescue! haha

In comment 15016874 JonC said:

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they were in mediocre shape at WR coming into this season, they didn't do nearly enough to prepare at WR in terms of talent. I said it months ago, and now the injuries and lack of talent are painfully obvious. Not gonna find much help sitting home on the couch. It's a 2021 hot need.

Isn't this as 3 years running now?

... that they cut Corey Coleman... and even more baffled that we didn't bring him back once Shep went down. He must have really pissed somebody off... lol

Roster mgmt seems to be the 1 area that JJ needs to work on.

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and let Smith and the other TEs handle TE.

Don't they use Engram in the slot now? Its not wide but normally has him guarded by a CB there.

OL and Saquon. Saquon goes down and the OL is having trouble gelling.

We may have gotten very, very lucky with Davonta, but unfortunately we have completely let our WR corp stagnate.

Slayton is fine, but Tate has seen his best days, Shepherd rarely stays on the field and then a drop off the cliff.

So, do we take the best WR in the draft next year or do we go free agent? Trade?

My God, but if our OL had been fixed a few years back, we could have drafted LSU's Jefferson in the first round and Claypool in the 3rd.

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and let Smith and the other TEs handle TE.

It's baffling to me that they don't do this more

They rather Engram run his horrifying routes and then drop passes

They should play Engram like teams did with Jimmy Graham in his prime

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In comment 15016881 section125 said: Quote: and let Smith and the other TEs handle TE. It's baffling to me that they don't do this more They rather Engram run his horrifying routes and then drop passes They should play Engram like teams did with Jimmy Graham in his prime

Can’t get separation vs safeties and linebackers. And he’ll fair better against CBs?

In comment 15017021 GiantBlue said:

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OL and Saquon. Saquon goes down and the OL is having trouble gelling. We may have gotten very, very lucky with Davonta, but unfortunately we have completely let our WR corp stagnate. Slayton is fine, but Tate has seen his best days, Shepherd rarely stays on the field and then a drop off the cliff. So, do we take the best WR in the draft next year or do we go free agent? Trade? My God, but if our OL had been fixed a few years back, we could have drafted LSU's Jefferson in the first round and Claypool in the 3rd.

I drafted Jefferson and got Claypool off waivers. My fantasy team is killing it with these guys filling in for injured Mike Evans.

is Engram himself, his mental errors, his drops, his route running, and his inability to get open.

He looks good in the open field when it happens, but way too many breakdowns on his part are wrecking his effectiveness.

He's not a WR.

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In comment 15017037 Giants in 07 said: Quote: In comment 15016881 section125 said: Quote: and let Smith and the other TEs handle TE. It's baffling to me that they don't do this more They rather Engram run his horrifying routes and then drop passes They should play Engram like teams did with Jimmy Graham in his prime Can’t get separation vs safeties and linebackers. And he’ll fair better against CBs?

He clearly has better straight line speed than he does cutting and slanting. I think that's why he's finding it hard to get separation. If he's in space, he's pretty quick

Send him deep against a CB 1 on 1. I'll take that every single time

In comment 15017021 GiantBlue said:

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OL and Saquon. Saquon goes down and the OL is having trouble gelling. We may have gotten very, very lucky with Davonta, but unfortunately we have completely let our WR corp stagnate. Slayton is fine, but Tate has seen his best days, Shepherd rarely stays on the field and then a drop off the cliff. So, do we take the best WR in the draft next year or do we go free agent? Trade? My God, but if our OL had been fixed a few years back, we could have drafted LSU's Jefferson in the first round and Claypool in the 3rd.

Um, Claypool was drafted in the 2nd.

What it means is that throwing to wide receivers has not been part of this Offense all year and it won't be tomorrow night either....

There aren't many other options than than him (at least not yet, as I don't think anyone new was mentioned in practice). Time to get him mixed into WR positions and change things up a bit. I can see him having a strong game.

Been doing it this season. They're just not doing a good job of getting good looks and opportunities for anyone.

Engram out wide is less effective than it probably otherwise would be because we have no other receiving threat, especially since Slayton and Shepard are banged up. Teams can simply double Engram. We also can't run the ball, which means that Jones is frequently throwing against six DBs.

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is Engram himself, his mental errors, his drops, his route running, and his inability to get open. He looks good in the open field when it happens, but way too many breakdowns on his part are wrecking his effectiveness. He's not a WR.

He will end up on the Raiders

Sy' was very high on Claypool coming out: the irony in his review was that his comp was EE, as in an upside comp, aarrgghh. We can't rid ourselves fast enough of the JR and DG misjudgments, only then can we look at yet another rebuild--5th, sixth?--with some real hope.