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ryanmkeane : 10/21/2020 9:32 pm
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The Giants are competently coached  
Go Terps : 10/21/2020 11:15 pm : link
It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.
Until we  
MtDizzle : 10/22/2020 12:09 am : link
beat those fucks I can’t feel good. I feel hopeful and I see a path to victory. But at this point when it comes to beating Philly, I’d have to see it to believe it.
absolutely not  
islander1 : 10/22/2020 1:07 am : link
- we couldn't beat the 49ers JV squad.
- we couldn't beat Dallas and their sad ass defense.
- we haven't beaten the Eagles since a meaningless end of season game in 2016.

We'll probably choke it at the end, just like we do Dallas.
I see a team whose defense, led by  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/22/2020 1:59 am : link
Martinez, Ryan, Bradberry and a host of rotating big men up front is beginnig to play smarter and more violent football...
Much in the image Joe Judge has said he intends to build, relentless, physical, and playing situationally smart.

And I'm beginning to see flickers of this on the OL, too. There is definitely a chance we see both rookie OTs in action, doing well.

Or not...
RE: RE: RE: I think we'll see the Giants  
Prude : 10/22/2020 3:35 am : link
In comment 15017535 Greg from LI said:
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Eagles offensive line is beat up, Wentz is running for his life constantly.



And if the Giants had anyone who could rush the passer, that might mean something.


The thing about losing a bunch of OL to injuries isn't just that you have worse players on the field but they have no chemistry and very few in game reps. We have big men upfront that can over power them but Graham likes to run exotic blitz screens that can even confuse a cohesive vetern line. Expect 3-4 sacks from CBs, LBs, and safeties. Even if our "rushers" don't get home.
Nope  
M.S. : 10/22/2020 6:20 am : link

And nope.

Eagles 31 - Giants 10
RE: The Giants are competently coached  
Black_Flag : 10/22/2020 6:24 am : link
In comment 15017562 Go Terps said:
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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.


You act like he hasn't been doing that. He even ran for it in the red zone. Aside from that TD and a couple of decent passes ; his only plays were on runs against WFT. They came up short in the red zone and had to kick a little chip shot field goal after a 15 yard run . Hard for me to fathom a guy who cannot pass in the NFL. A pro league! Either the league has become Bush league or this QB is bush league. This whole look-to-run is a college QB technique for QBs who can't pass with accuracy beyond 10 yards ... I immediately turn college games like that off. It's boring. Hopefully what John Gruden did against the Chiefs last Sunday sowed he had the winning ticket and we can get back to good football again.
This Game May Forever Be Known As The  
M.S. : 10/22/2020 6:42 am : link

Dalvin Tomlinson Farewell Game.

Giant lose and they trade him, knowing full well that any hope of winning the division was just a weird pipe dream.
Im not expecting a win  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/22/2020 6:51 am : link
I would like to see Andrew thomas play well and some explosive plays. Just want to see signs of life from Jones and the offense. That being said, the Eagles are ripe with injuries. Now is the time to beat them if ever
I'm betting on Trump in the debate  
Sec 103 : 10/22/2020 7:05 am : link
instead, should be much more entertaining...
We are undermanned  
Giantimistic : 10/22/2020 7:05 am : link
However, my bigger hope is that the Philadelphia native, Judge, can own the Eagles during his coaching tenure. It has been a long time and would be great if he could just have their number regardless of what team he brings in. Not saying that will be the case but that would really be a happy change.
RE: RE: The Giants are competently coached  
section125 : 10/22/2020 7:10 am : link
In comment 15017588 Black_Flag said:
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In comment 15017562 Go Terps said:


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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.



You act like he hasn't been doing that. He even ran for it in the red zone. Aside from that TD and a couple of decent passes ; his only plays were on runs against WFT. They came up short in the red zone and had to kick a little chip shot field goal after a 15 yard run . Hard for me to fathom a guy who cannot pass in the NFL. A pro league! Either the league has become Bush league or this QB is bush league. This whole look-to-run is a college QB technique for QBs who can't pass with accuracy beyond 10 yards ... I immediately turn college games like that off. It's boring. Hopefully what John Gruden did against the Chiefs last Sunday sowed he had the winning ticket and we can get back to good football again.


What?
T,he only way we win this game is if we run on them AND win the  
SGMen : 10/22/2020 7:11 am : link
turnover battle +2. The OL has been improving, especially Gates. We must run well tonight to keep the pressure off of D. Jones and our weak contingent of receivers.

I also believe if Shepard is effective, we will move the ball a bit better. Slayton must be close to 100% as well if we are to generate offense.

And for the love of God, when will Engram's speed be used by creating situations on their LB's that give him a seam to catch & run. I know Engram is likely GONE afer this year along with Solder, Tate, Zeitler but if he could just make that big catch and run tonight to keep those safeties honest it would be a big boon and help us get a win.

I want to win this division at 6 - 10. Washington is on par with us but I think D. Jones is a better QB so we ar better, if even by a point. I think I sense mutiny in Dallas. Philly is the top contender despite their offensive injuries. If we win tonight, and even if its by 1 lucky point, we are right in the race and can get three more division wins and perhaps beat Cincy?

6 - 10 can win this division, get us a playoff game and some positive motivation for the off-season. Just a real shame we lost Barkley cause with him we have some offense but without him we can be contained by good D's, which Philly is a good defense still, very well coached. Let hope D. Jones doesn't turn it over while Wentz forces a few bad ones.
I feel like this will be similar to all our games except for SF  
mfsd : 10/22/2020 7:14 am : link
Giants will come out ready to play, and be competitive for a while. In the end, I think we probably give up a few too many plays on defense, can’t finish in the red zone, and lose a close one.

In other words, sticking with this seasons formula
I hope we mix up our offensive plays when we start the way we did  
Blue21 : 10/22/2020 7:18 am : link
against the Cowboys. Put the Eagles on their heels right away so they lose any swagger or confidence they have.
I'm not confident in a win  
mittenedman : 10/22/2020 7:22 am : link
but I'm hoping this is a game the Eagles say "uh oh" about the Joe Judge-lead New York Giants.
I would feel better if we beat Dallas  
joe48 : 10/22/2020 7:30 am : link
I think Eagles will want this game. They should win division and I expect us to have problems with their defense running the ball. If we had a pass rush I would give us a solid chance.
Eagles are a mess too  
D-Rod : 10/22/2020 7:49 am : link
but they always seems to do well against us.
like the comments not the subject of the OP  
Dinger : 10/22/2020 7:55 am : link
This game, like the Niners game, is a 'trap' game if there is such a thing with a 1-5 team. The Giants confidence will get the better of them and we as fans will be tortured by another loss to the Iggles. Its happened too many times for me to mention that the Giants will rip your heart out.
RE: The Giants are competently coached  
Jeffrey : 10/22/2020 8:09 am : link
In comment 15017562 Go Terps said:
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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.


Agree with this. Always root for a win by the Giants but no longer expect a win--no matter who the opponent. The stats tell me the Giants should be competitive, but I cannot help but feel they will help another banged up team get well quickly in a loss that will not be close.
RE: This Game May Forever Be Known As The  
Dinger : 10/22/2020 8:10 am : link
In comment 15017591 M.S. said:
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Dalvin Tomlinson Farewell Game.

Giant lose and they trade him, knowing full well that any hope of winning the division was just a weird pipe dream.


MS you seem VERY down about the game and though I will feel the same if your score prediction comes true(BLECH,please no!) if they trade DT then we hopefully get a draft pick or two. I think that even winning the division at this point isn't a great thing. They'd most likely get destroyed in the playoffs and your draft slot is worse. Lets look to this game for a step in the right direction. Play em tough like we always do and lose on a last second field goal like 3 of the last 4 against them. I think if thats the case we beat them in 3 or 4 weeks when we play them again and I think the same will happen when we meet Dallas. Play tough.
Honesty, no  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/22/2020 8:27 am : link
I think the path to victory lies in Jones playing an excellent game (even with a TO which I expect). If he can take this offense and convert in the red zone, they have a chance. The Eagles for all their issues, still have the pass rush. Honestly that is the difference in this game.
Feeling good?  
joeinpa : 10/22/2020 8:30 am : link
I don’t know, is being excited about a game that matters the same as feeling good?

I m not confident, how can you be, just excited and hopeful.
RE: Feeling good?  
crick n NC : 10/22/2020 8:31 am : link
In comment 15017640 joeinpa said:
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I don’t know, is being excited about a game that matters the same as feeling good?

I m not confident, how can you be, just excited and hopeful.


Yep, excited and hopeful for this fan.
One thing that is weird  
ryanmkeane : 10/22/2020 8:34 am : link
dating back to last season - I have a bunch of friends from college days that are Eagles fans, and they absolutely positively hate this Eagles team and hate Carson Wentz. It’s odd. But maybe that’s just the Philly fan in them.
I think they have a chance. Iggles are banged up.  
Victor in CT : 10/22/2020 8:41 am : link
It would be so nice to beat these pricks for a change.
I think they have a chance. Iggles are banged up.  
Victor in CT : 10/22/2020 8:43 am : link
It would be so nice to beat these pricks for a change.
I am interested  
crick n NC : 10/22/2020 8:45 am : link
To see fans reaction if the Giants snag another ugly Betty win.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/22/2020 8:52 am : link
No.
RE: One thing that is weird  
nygiants16 : 10/22/2020 8:53 am : link
In comment 15017645 ryanmkeane said:
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dating back to last season - I have a bunch of friends from college days that are Eagles fans, and they absolutely positively hate this Eagles team and hate Carson Wentz. It’s odd. But maybe that’s just the Philly fan in them.


My friend lives in south jersey he said on the radio, he gets all thr philly stations, they have no worries about the Giants...He told me they were laughing when it came to playing the Giants
Philly..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 8:58 am : link
treats us like we treat the Redskins.

In our last 24 games with them, we are 4-20
RE: Philly..  
Danny Kanell : 10/22/2020 9:03 am : link
In comment 15017675 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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treats us like we treat the Redskins.

In our last 24 games with them, we are 4-20


That is truly unbelievable.
This eagles curse has to end  
PA Aggie : 10/22/2020 9:15 am : link
I hate Dallas...but love them compared to the eagles. I don't care if it takes a bad ref call to win the game, we need to win this game for a multitude of reasons. The only saving grace I can feel, is that the coaching staff and many of the players are so new that they don't feel the losing streak like former players or Giant fans. We as fans, have been living through this eagle losing streak too long; getting pounded, us making a terrible mistake, or them getting a miracle play or field goal...this has to end. Now is as good a time as any. (My only game two-cents is that I would like to see Jones run a bit more whether it is bailing out of the pocket, or a designed play.) Go Giants!
RE: RE: RE: The Giants are competently coached  
Black_Flag : 10/22/2020 9:17 am : link
In comment 15017596 section125 said:
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In comment 15017588 Black_Flag said:


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In comment 15017562 Go Terps said:


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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.



You act like he hasn't been doing that. He even ran for it in the red zone. Aside from that TD and a couple of decent passes ; his only plays were on runs against WFT. They came up short in the red zone and had to kick a little chip shot field goal after a 15 yard run . Hard for me to fathom a guy who cannot pass in the NFL. A pro league! Either the league has become Bush league or this QB is bush league. This whole look-to-run is a college QB technique for QBs who can't pass with accuracy beyond 10 yards ... I immediately turn college games like that off. It's boring. Hopefully what John Gruden did against the Chiefs last Sunday sowed he had the winning ticket and we can get back to good football again.



What?


What part of that wasn't clear?

Comment: "Garret should get Jones running more with designed runs"

Answer: HE HAS BEEN. JONES HAS BEEN RUNNING THE BALL A LOT WITH DESIGNED RUNS.

How many times do you want Jones to run with it?
Actually  
Harvest Blend : 10/22/2020 9:17 am : link
no. Not me at least. It's the fucking Eagles.
RE: RE: yep  
Black_Flag : 10/22/2020 9:19 am : link
In comment 15017525 Saquads26 said:
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In comment 15017520 Black_Flag said:


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feeling good about being one step closer to trevor lawrence



That went out the window Sunday. Get over it


How do you figure that? The Jets? They might not take T Lawrence.
RE: I am interested  
LBH15 : 10/22/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 15017660 crick n NC said:
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To see fans reaction if the Giants snag another ugly Betty win.


Give me an Ugly Betty win any day of the week versus the Eagles.
RE: The Giants are competently coached  
GiantEgo : 10/22/2020 9:26 am : link
In comment 15017562 Go Terps said:
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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.


Jones is the new Bobby Douglas!
I'm ambivalent...  
Grey Pilgrim : 10/22/2020 9:27 am : link
:shrug:
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants are competently coached  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/22/2020 9:32 am : link
In comment 15017693 Black_Flag said:
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In comment 15017588 Black_Flag said:


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In comment 15017562 Go Terps said:


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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.



You act like he hasn't been doing that. He even ran for it in the red zone. Aside from that TD and a couple of decent passes ; his only plays were on runs against WFT. They came up short in the red zone and had to kick a little chip shot field goal after a 15 yard run . Hard for me to fathom a guy who cannot pass in the NFL. A pro league! Either the league has become Bush league or this QB is bush league. This whole look-to-run is a college QB technique for QBs who can't pass with accuracy beyond 10 yards ... I immediately turn college games like that off. It's boring. Hopefully what John Gruden did against the Chiefs last Sunday sowed he had the winning ticket and we can get back to good football again.



What?



What part of that wasn't clear?

Comment: "Garret should get Jones running more with designed runs"

Answer: HE HAS BEEN. JONES HAS BEEN RUNNING THE BALL A LOT WITH DESIGNED RUNS.

How many times do you want Jones to run with it?


More. Obviously. The passing game has clearly been terrible. You don't have WRs getting open or playing consistent football at all. The offensive line is deeply inconsistent and might soon be featuring two rookie tackles. It doesn't matter if you don't like the look and feel of it as a product. This is the 31st ranked offense in a league of 32 teams. They have 1 win but might somehow have an opportunity to win a division. Find something that works and use it.
i want to feel good  
djm : 10/22/2020 9:36 am : link
but no, not yet. I am hopeful but and I do think there's a shot at a fun november/december but the Giants still need to win a big division game first before I completely buy in. I won't lie, I would not be betting the Giants tonight no matter what the spread is or how banged up Philly is. Go out there and prove it.
RE: RE: I am interested  
crick n NC : 10/22/2020 9:45 am : link
In comment 15017700 LBH15 said:
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To see fans reaction if the Giants snag another ugly Betty win.



Give me an Ugly Betty win any day of the week versus the Eagles.


Certainly
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants are competently coached  
Black_Flag : 10/22/2020 9:49 am : link
In comment 15017706 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.



You act like he hasn't been doing that. He even ran for it in the red zone. Aside from that TD and a couple of decent passes ; his only plays were on runs against WFT. They came up short in the red zone and had to kick a little chip shot field goal after a 15 yard run . Hard for me to fathom a guy who cannot pass in the NFL. A pro league! Either the league has become Bush league or this QB is bush league. This whole look-to-run is a college QB technique for QBs who can't pass with accuracy beyond 10 yards ... I immediately turn college games like that off. It's boring. Hopefully what John Gruden did against the Chiefs last Sunday sowed he had the winning ticket and we can get back to good football again.



What?



What part of that wasn't clear?

Comment: "Garret should get Jones running more with designed runs"

Answer: HE HAS BEEN. JONES HAS BEEN RUNNING THE BALL A LOT WITH DESIGNED RUNS.

How many times do you want Jones to run with it?



More. Obviously. The passing game has clearly been terrible. You don't have WRs getting open or playing consistent football at all. The offensive line is deeply inconsistent and might soon be featuring two rookie tackles. It doesn't matter if you don't like the look and feel of it as a product. This is the 31st ranked offense in a league of 32 teams. They have 1 win but might somehow have an opportunity to win a division. Find something that works and use it.


What does winning the division have to do with it?

You are not seriously looking at a play off run with these Bush leaguers?

What would be the point of the clubbing that this team is going to get against the 49ers or Packers or whoever?

You said it yourself this offense stinks. And the defense is not much better.
I'm making eggplant parm for tonites game  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/22/2020 9:54 am : link
Yum
ugh...  
Dnew15 : 10/22/2020 9:56 am : link
I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and hard place on this one.

I hate the Eagles - like a lot.

The Giants HAVE to start winning games against them, just to reshape the mindset and culture of losing against them.

At the same time, every win keeps the Giants closer to keeping the front office intact. Which, I believe is a bad thing.

Yuck.
Feel good?  
King Quis : 10/22/2020 10:04 am : link
No! The offense sucks. I thought it was a great idea to have Garrett as an OC since he’s helped two Young quarterbacks be good early in Dak and Romo but looks like Danny is somewhat regressing under Garrett and it’s given me second thoughts
Giants are 4.5 underdogs  
armstead98 : 10/22/2020 10:05 am : link
That converts to winning chances about 1 out of 3. That line feels about right to me.

Not massive underdogs but also not likely they win.

I'll be rooting for them though. We need to see better oline play and the defense needs to be dialed in.
I'm feeling good  
UberAlias : 10/22/2020 11:38 am : link
Not necessarily saying we will win because Eagles are the more talented team. But I expect us to compete and see it as winable. If we get blown out I would be surprised and won't be shocked to see us get the W, though not necessarily predicting it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants are competently coached  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/22/2020 12:47 pm : link
In comment 15017722 Black_Flag said:
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In comment 15017596 section125 said:


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In comment 15017588 Black_Flag said:


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It's good to feel like there's an important game to look forward to, at least. But yeah, we've fallen for this before.

We need Garrett to get his head out of his ass for this one. Get Jones out of the pocket, and get him running the football himself.

If we stand Jones up in the pocket scanning the field, the eagles are going to get a defensive touchdown.



You act like he hasn't been doing that. He even ran for it in the red zone. Aside from that TD and a couple of decent passes ; his only plays were on runs against WFT. They came up short in the red zone and had to kick a little chip shot field goal after a 15 yard run . Hard for me to fathom a guy who cannot pass in the NFL. A pro league! Either the league has become Bush league or this QB is bush league. This whole look-to-run is a college QB technique for QBs who can't pass with accuracy beyond 10 yards ... I immediately turn college games like that off. It's boring. Hopefully what John Gruden did against the Chiefs last Sunday sowed he had the winning ticket and we can get back to good football again.



What?



What part of that wasn't clear?

Comment: "Garret should get Jones running more with designed runs"

Answer: HE HAS BEEN. JONES HAS BEEN RUNNING THE BALL A LOT WITH DESIGNED RUNS.

How many times do you want Jones to run with it?



More. Obviously. The passing game has clearly been terrible. You don't have WRs getting open or playing consistent football at all. The offensive line is deeply inconsistent and might soon be featuring two rookie tackles. It doesn't matter if you don't like the look and feel of it as a product. This is the 31st ranked offense in a league of 32 teams. They have 1 win but might somehow have an opportunity to win a division. Find something that works and use it.



What does winning the division have to do with it?

You are not seriously looking at a play off run with these Bush leaguers?

What would be the point of the clubbing that this team is going to get against the 49ers or Packers or whoever?

You said it yourself this offense stinks. And the defense is not much better.


Regardless of what I think, clearly they are trying to win games. If you're about winning, then you have to identify any way possible to get something out of this offense and do it till someone stops it.

...  
ryanmkeane : 10/22/2020 1:38 pm : link
it's baffling to me when fans scoff at winning the division even if we have a shitty record. Fuck yeah I want to win the division, we've been a doormat against Dallas and Philly for way too long now. Something has to change. And, anything can happen in the playoffs. Odds are the winner of the NFC East will get bounced by a superior team, but it's bullshit to say they wouldn't be able to win. Look at Seattle against the Saints that one year. It happens.
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