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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/22/2020 11:24 pm
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This loss hurts because the division is so bad  
nygiants16 : 10/22/2020 11:58 pm : link
they were so close to havning some meaningful games
RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.  
Jints in Carolina : 10/22/2020 11:58 pm : link
In comment 15020681 LBH15 said:
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.



Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?


who put together the roster? this team is worse than when he got here
The team has no identity, no leader  
Jim from Katonah : 10/22/2020 11:59 pm : link
It’s just a collection of random players — compare that to Iggs with Kelce, Graham, Cox ... it’s just kind of sad that every vestige of Giants excellence is gone.
RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.  
Anakim : 10/22/2020 11:59 pm : link
In comment 15020664 EricJ said:
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.



No chance? We said that about Reese for four years before he was fired.

John Mara is not going to fire DG in the middle of this season... or after the season.


You're on. I think he finishes this season and then he's kaput. Mara emphasized that he expects to see improvement this season. Well, that hasn't happened.
RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.  
lax counsel : 10/22/2020 11:59 pm : link
In comment 15020681 LBH15 said:
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.



Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?


This is fantastic! I see what you did there...👀
the shame is  
jmalls23 : 10/23/2020 12:00 am : link
engram catches that fucking punt in his lap. we are all celebrating. how can he drop that???
RE: This loss hurts because the division is so bad  
Anakim : 10/23/2020 12:00 am : link
In comment 15020710 nygiants16 said:
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they were so close to havning some meaningful games


Whichever team wins the NFC East will be eliminated in the first round. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that we're getting a higher pick because Lord knows we would go nowhere in the Playoffs.
RE: This loss hurts because the division is so bad  
mphbullet36 : 10/23/2020 12:00 am : link
In comment 15020710 nygiants16 said:
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they were so close to havning some meaningful games


lets be honest they would "fake" meaningful games. We are a 2pt conversion away from being 0-7...the east stinks and its the only reason people have faith. Its not because the giants deserve it.

They will be embarrassed by the Bucs and then they will be 1-7.
Thomas was scary bad today.  
St. Jimmy : 10/23/2020 12:01 am : link
The Eagles were lining Barnett up over him who is a bust and were getting consistent pressure from him.
So tired of this shit  
Sean : 10/23/2020 12:01 am : link
I love the Giants. I don’t have the same passion for other NY teams like some on BBI do. I love and root for the Giants every week, but it’s always the same fucking script.
RE: RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.  
NoGainDayne : 10/23/2020 12:01 am : link
In comment 15020722 lax counsel said:
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.



Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?



This is fantastic! I see what you did there...👀


You couldn't possibly tarnish a resume THAT good
God  
holmancomedown : 10/23/2020 12:01 am : link
Engram is useless as tits on a bull ! He flat out blows. H8 this team !
RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.  
Giantfan21 : 10/23/2020 12:02 am : link
In comment 15020681 LBH15 said:
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.



Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?


Who picked Turnstile Thomas with the 4th pick of the draft ?

Who is responsible for this Defense allowing 2 TD in the last 6 minutes of the game ?

The talent on this team is atrocious and it starts with him
RE: RE: I said it in the game thread, I'll say it now.  
BigBlueBuff : 10/23/2020 12:02 am : link
In comment 15020553 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I'm 49 years old and this is the most unlikeable group of Giants players that I can ever remember watching. It's just misery.

Fuck. This. Team.



Unlikeable? No... the 2017 team says hello. Just bad? Absolutely.

Unlikeable. At least 2017 had a Hall of Famer at quarterback and JPP on the roster. This team has jack shit for talent, and not only that, the talent that they have is overrated.
RE: RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.  
LBH15 : 10/23/2020 12:02 am : link
In comment 15020711 Jints in Carolina said:
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.



Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?



who put together the roster? this team is worse than when he got here


The Giants lose a heart breaker and it’s the GM’s fault? Was he dropping the pass or Engram? Was he committing the PI in the end zone?

Come on.
Tampa is going to run the score up so bad when the Giants play them  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/23/2020 12:03 am : link
This season sucks so much. Can't anything ever turn out alright with the Giants anymore?
I'm sick of losing!
RE: I know I'll be in the minority on this view  
averagejoe : 10/23/2020 12:04 am : link
In comment 15020460 eclipz928 said:
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but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.

He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.


You are correct. Slightly ahead of him. Problem is in that situation where a first down likely seals the game you have to extend and make sure of the catch. Because he is a loser and has stone hands he did not. He is the anti-football player. Cancer Hands Engram is a loser.
It was clear as day  
ryanmkeane : 10/23/2020 12:04 am : link
that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit
The GM is responsible for the players on the field  
UberAlias : 10/23/2020 12:04 am : link
In 3 years he hasn’t moved the talent needle on a bottom of the barrel team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.  
bigbluehoya : 10/23/2020 12:05 am : link
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.



Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?



who put together the roster? this team is worse than when he got here



The Giants lose a heart breaker and it’s the GM’s fault? Was he dropping the pass or Engram? Was he committing the PI in the end zone?

Come on.


True. Last couple years have been a classic case of “good management - the players just gotta make it happen”
If Engram and Thomas are starting in 10 days  
j_rud : 10/23/2020 12:05 am : link
Judge, who I like and am still behind, will lose a lot of credibility. Thomas obviously isnt a lost cause but he needs to sit.

Engram? Get him the fuck off of this team. You cant get a 6th for him? Then cut him. Tomorrow. They gave him every possible opportunity, and he continually shits the bed. And tonight you cab easily argue that it cost them the game.
Not giving up on Thomas, but  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/23/2020 12:06 am : link
this is every game now. Thomas is very much a concern until he fixes his game, or a coach fixes it for him. He looked straight up inept out there tonight.
RE: It was clear as day  
Angel Eyes : 10/23/2020 12:06 am : link
In comment 15020777 ryanmkeane said:
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that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit

It looked like he tried a cutback with the guy matched up on him. Shouldn’t have bothered.
i honestly don't know how anyone can defend the fucking GM  
Jints in Carolina : 10/23/2020 12:07 am : link
we are worse and more devoid of talent than we he got here.
RE: If Engram and Thomas are starting in 10 days  
Giantfan21 : 10/23/2020 12:07 am : link
In comment 15020781 j_rud said:
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Judge, who I like and am still behind, will lose a lot of credibility. Thomas obviously isnt a lost cause but he needs to sit.

Engram? Get him the fuck off of this team. You cant get a 6th for him? Then cut him. Tomorrow. They gave him every possible opportunity, and he continually shits the bed. And tonight you cab easily argue that it cost them the game.


Agree i like Judge a lot but i will lose a lot of respect for him if these 2 are starting next game
I'll save everyone some time here  
NoGainDayne : 10/23/2020 12:08 am : link
LBH was doing his faux troll thing, which has been quite amusing.

The real homer troll said this about a previous game and he was mocking him.
Outside of maybe Shepard and Saquon ...  
Jim from Katonah : 10/23/2020 12:08 am : link
... who on this team do you feel kind of bonded to, who feels like a real Giant? It’s just a random group of dudes. No history, no achievement, no leader, it feels like they are starting from zero in building a winning culture.
we're basically an expansion team  
Jints in Carolina : 10/23/2020 12:09 am : link
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RE: RE: I know I'll be in the minority on this view  
eclipz928 : 10/23/2020 12:10 am : link
In comment 15020491 Matt M. said:
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but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.

He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.

That ball was perfectly thrown. It was dropped right on him and it was a great call by Garrett. Engram dropped an easy fucking catch.
You're parroting Troy Aikman. I re-watched the play - it's a make-able catch if Engram extends himself, but the ball thrown certainly wasn't perfect and the catch wouldn't have been easy. The ball went just off his finger tips.
RE: Outside of maybe Shepard and Saquon ...  
Anakim : 10/23/2020 12:10 am : link
In comment 15020813 Jim from Katonah said:
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... who on this team do you feel kind of bonded to, who feels like a real Giant? It’s just a random group of dudes. No history, no achievement, no leader, it feels like they are starting from zero in building a winning culture.


Shepard's a great kid, but he should be primarily a slot guy. He's not an outside guy. Too small. And man, we REALLY missed out on Michael Thomas.
RE: It was clear as day  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/23/2020 12:10 am : link
In comment 15020777 ryanmkeane said:
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that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit


Yeah, that was kinda my take on it too. He definitely appeared to slow down.
RE: I'll save everyone some time here  
lax counsel : 10/23/2020 12:11 am : link
In comment 15020811 NoGainDayne said:
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LBH was doing his faux troll thing, which has been quite amusing.

The real homer troll said this about a previous game and he was mocking him.


No one ever defended DG, they only said he was good in Carolina...
RE: i honestly don't know how anyone can defend the fucking GM  
BigBlueBuff : 10/23/2020 12:11 am : link
In comment 15020799 Jints in Carolina said:
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we are worse and more devoid of talent than we he got here.
No question. Ever since Coughlin left, and especially since Gettleman was hired it has been like watching a slow motion train wreck. You can see it coming but there is nothing you can do to stop it.
RE: Not giving up on Thomas, but  
Drewcon40 : 10/23/2020 12:11 am : link
In comment 15020788 Dave in Hoboken said:
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this is every game now. Thomas is very much a concern until he fixes his game, or a coach fixes it for him. He looked straight up inept out there tonight.


I totally agree Dave - did Peart get any reps? I didn’t see him.

RE: It was clear as day  
LBH15 : 10/23/2020 12:12 am : link
In comment 15020777 ryanmkeane said:
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that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit


Dude. I feel your pain. I was absolutely going to type a post to you tonight after the Giants won and tell you that you were the only one giving them a chance on BBI this week.

I feel your pain.
RE: we're basically an expansion team  
Jim from Katonah : 10/23/2020 12:12 am : link
In comment 15020818 Jints in Carolina said:
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Doesn’t it feel that way? Just anonymously shuffling off to yet another loss.
For the first time in 7 or 8 years,  
Go Terps : 10/23/2020 12:13 am : link
I feel like the arrow is pointing up. If I could sign Judge and Graham to 35 year extensions, I would. And I can live with the Daniel Jones we saw tonight. That guy can win in this league. Two things have to be corrected:

1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.

Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
Trade the losers  
Big Daddy : 10/23/2020 12:13 am : link
Starting with the TE
RE: RE: RE: I know I'll be in the minority on this view  
jvm52106 : 10/23/2020 12:14 am : link
In comment 15020820 eclipz928 said:
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but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.

He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.

That ball was perfectly thrown. It was dropped right on him and it was a great call by Garrett. Engram dropped an easy fucking catch.

You're parroting Troy Aikman. I re-watched the play - it's a make-able catch if Engram extends himself, but the ball thrown certainly wasn't perfect and the catch wouldn't have been easy. The ball went just off his finger tips.


Rewatch it again.. Fucking EE is keaning towards the sideline hoping to snag the ball and head away from the oncoming safety..He fucked up a perfectly thrown ball..
RE: RE: I'll save everyone some time here  
crick n NC : 10/23/2020 12:14 am : link
In comment 15020825 lax counsel said:
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LBH was doing his faux troll thing, which has been quite amusing.

The real homer troll said this about a previous game and he was mocking him.



No one ever defended DG, they only said he was good in Carolina...


Not sure why you guys want to continue a fight from last week.
RE: RE: Outside of maybe Shepard and Saquon ...  
Jim from Katonah : 10/23/2020 12:14 am : link
In comment 15020821 Anakim said:
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... who on this team do you feel kind of bonded to, who feels like a real Giant? It’s just a random group of dudes. No history, no achievement, no leader, it feels like they are starting from zero in building a winning culture.



Shepard's a great kid, but he should be primarily a slot guy. He's not an outside guy. Too small. And man, we REALLY missed out on Michael Thomas.


Sigh.
RE: i honestly don't know how anyone can defend the fucking GM  
LBH15 : 10/23/2020 12:17 am : link
In comment 15020799 Jints in Carolina said:
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we are worse and more devoid of talent than we he got here.


Who’s defending the GM? I am just saying this loss tonight isn’t because a Gettleman dropped the ball.
RE: For the first time in 7 or 8 years,  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/23/2020 12:17 am : link
In comment 15020848 Go Terps said:
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I feel like the arrow is pointing up. If I could sign Judge and Graham to 35 year extensions, I would. And I can live with the Daniel Jones we saw tonight. That guy can win in this league. Two things have to be corrected:

1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.

I don’t agree with everything that you say, but your season long optimism about Judge and Graham gives me optimism. I just don’t know if Mara can put his ego aside and not hire “his” Gm.

Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
Oh well  
UberAlias : 10/23/2020 12:18 am : link
Write off another season to rebuilding year. I do think if they replace the GM with someone good we’ll have something. I don’t know the candidates, but perhaps someone from Pittsburgh organization, or possibly Indi.
You GOTTA make that catch or  
morrison40 : 10/23/2020 12:18 am : link
Get out of the NFL....Next !
RE: For the first time in 7 or 8 years,  
lax counsel : 10/23/2020 12:19 am : link
In comment 15020848 Go Terps said:
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I feel like the arrow is pointing up. If I could sign Judge and Graham to 35 year extensions, I would. And I can live with the Daniel Jones we saw tonight. That guy can win in this league. Two things have to be corrected:

1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.

Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.


Agreed, it was actually exciting, and Jones made some plays to elevate his teammates, which is greatly see. Love to see it more throughout the season.
RE: Engram is such a disgrace of a draft pick  
Silver Spoon : 10/23/2020 12:19 am : link
In comment 15020616 bigbluehoya said:
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If you are going to miss in the first round, don’t miss on a fucking tight end that can’t block. You need that fucking guy to be a 700 yard 5TD player to even scratch the surface of proper value in the first round. So awful.


Thomas wants you to hold his beer.
RE: RE: i honestly don't know how anyone can defend the fucking GM  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/23/2020 12:21 am : link
In comment 15020887 LBH15 said:
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we are worse and more devoid of talent than we he got here.



Who’s defending the GM? I am just saying this loss tonight isn’t because a Gettleman dropped the ball.


Sure he has- on many of player evaluations that aided in coasting us this game.
RE: RE: Engram is such a disgrace of a draft pick  
lax counsel : 10/23/2020 12:21 am : link
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If you are going to miss in the first round, don’t miss on a fucking tight end that can’t block. You need that fucking guy to be a 700 yard 5TD player to even scratch the surface of proper value in the first round. So awful.



Thomas wants you to hold his beer.


Engram has been in the league long enough to know he’s a bust. Thomas may get there, but still a bit early.
Holy, HOLY SHIT.  
Johnny5 : 10/23/2020 12:21 am : link
I am furious about this loss... absolutely FURIOUS. 21-10 with how many minutes left and we CAN'T WIN? Is somebody PUNKING US right now?????
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