It’s just a collection of random players — compare that to Iggs with Kelce, Graham, Cox ... it’s just kind of sad that every vestige of Giants excellence is gone.
RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.
The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
No chance? We said that about Reese for four years before he was fired.
John Mara is not going to fire DG in the middle of this season... or after the season.
You're on. I think he finishes this season and then he's kaput. Mara emphasized that he expects to see improvement this season. Well, that hasn't happened.
RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.
they were so close to havning some meaningful games
Whichever team wins the NFC East will be eliminated in the first round. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that we're getting a higher pick because Lord knows we would go nowhere in the Playoffs.
RE: This loss hurts because the division is so bad
they were so close to havning some meaningful games
lets be honest they would "fake" meaningful games. We are a 2pt conversion away from being 0-7...the east stinks and its the only reason people have faith. Its not because the giants deserve it.
They will be embarrassed by the Bucs and then they will be 1-7.
I love the Giants. I don’t have the same passion for other NY teams like some on BBI do. I love and root for the Giants every week, but it’s always the same fucking script.
RE: RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.
I'm 49 years old and this is the most unlikeable group of Giants players that I can ever remember watching. It's just misery.
Fuck. This. Team.
Unlikeable? No... the 2017 team says hello. Just bad? Absolutely.
Unlikeable. At least 2017 had a Hall of Famer at quarterback and JPP on the roster. This team has jack shit for talent, and not only that, the talent that they have is overrated.
RE: RE: RE: Gettleman is done. No chance he survives this.
but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.
He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.
You are correct. Slightly ahead of him. Problem is in that situation where a first down likely seals the game you have to extend and make sure of the catch. Because he is a loser and has stone hands he did not. He is the anti-football player. Cancer Hands Engram is a loser.
that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit
The GM is responsible for the players on the field
Judge, who I like and am still behind, will lose a lot of credibility. Thomas obviously isnt a lost cause but he needs to sit.
Engram? Get him the fuck off of this team. You cant get a 6th for him? Then cut him. Tomorrow. They gave him every possible opportunity, and he continually shits the bed. And tonight you cab easily argue that it cost them the game.
this is every game now. Thomas is very much a concern until he fixes his game, or a coach fixes it for him. He looked straight up inept out there tonight.
that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit
It looked like he tried a cutback with the guy matched up on him. Shouldn’t have bothered.
i honestly don't know how anyone can defend the fucking GM
Judge, who I like and am still behind, will lose a lot of credibility. Thomas obviously isnt a lost cause but he needs to sit.
Engram? Get him the fuck off of this team. You cant get a 6th for him? Then cut him. Tomorrow. They gave him every possible opportunity, and he continually shits the bed. And tonight you cab easily argue that it cost them the game.
Agree i like Judge a lot but i will lose a lot of respect for him if these 2 are starting next game
... who on this team do you feel kind of bonded to, who feels like a real Giant? It’s just a random group of dudes. No history, no achievement, no leader, it feels like they are starting from zero in building a winning culture.
but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.
He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.
That ball was perfectly thrown. It was dropped right on him and it was a great call by Garrett. Engram dropped an easy fucking catch.
You're parroting Troy Aikman. I re-watched the play - it's a make-able catch if Engram extends himself, but the ball thrown certainly wasn't perfect and the catch wouldn't have been easy. The ball went just off his finger tips.
... who on this team do you feel kind of bonded to, who feels like a real Giant? It’s just a random group of dudes. No history, no achievement, no leader, it feels like they are starting from zero in building a winning culture.
Shepard's a great kid, but he should be primarily a slot guy. He's not an outside guy. Too small. And man, we REALLY missed out on Michael Thomas.
that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit
Yeah, that was kinda my take on it too. He definitely appeared to slow down.
we are worse and more devoid of talent than we he got here.
No question. Ever since Coughlin left, and especially since Gettleman was hired it has been like watching a slow motion train wreck. You can see it coming but there is nothing you can do to stop it.
this is every game now. Thomas is very much a concern until he fixes his game, or a coach fixes it for him. He looked straight up inept out there tonight.
I totally agree Dave - did Peart get any reps? I didn’t see him.
that Engram pussied out on that catch due to the safety coming in. Worst part was it’s not like he was that close but he would have given him a decent shot. I’ve watched this play 15 times - he just gave up on the ball because he didn’t want to get hit
Dude. I feel your pain. I was absolutely going to type a post to you tonight after the Giants won and tell you that you were the only one giving them a chance on BBI this week.
I feel like the arrow is pointing up. If I could sign Judge and Graham to 35 year extensions, I would. And I can live with the Daniel Jones we saw tonight. That guy can win in this league. Two things have to be corrected:
1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.
Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.
He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.
That ball was perfectly thrown. It was dropped right on him and it was a great call by Garrett. Engram dropped an easy fucking catch.
You're parroting Troy Aikman. I re-watched the play - it's a make-able catch if Engram extends himself, but the ball thrown certainly wasn't perfect and the catch wouldn't have been easy. The ball went just off his finger tips.
Rewatch it again.. Fucking EE is keaning towards the sideline hoping to snag the ball and head away from the oncoming safety..He fucked up a perfectly thrown ball..
... who on this team do you feel kind of bonded to, who feels like a real Giant? It’s just a random group of dudes. No history, no achievement, no leader, it feels like they are starting from zero in building a winning culture.
Shepard's a great kid, but he should be primarily a slot guy. He's not an outside guy. Too small. And man, we REALLY missed out on Michael Thomas.
Sigh.
RE: i honestly don't know how anyone can defend the fucking GM
I feel like the arrow is pointing up. If I could sign Judge and Graham to 35 year extensions, I would. And I can live with the Daniel Jones we saw tonight. That guy can win in this league. Two things have to be corrected:
1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.
I don’t agree with everything that you say, but your season long optimism about Judge and Graham gives me optimism. I just don’t know if Mara can put his ego aside and not hire “his” Gm.
Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
Write off another season to rebuilding year. I do think if they replace the GM with someone good we’ll have something. I don’t know the candidates, but perhaps someone from Pittsburgh organization, or possibly Indi.
I feel like the arrow is pointing up. If I could sign Judge and Graham to 35 year extensions, I would. And I can live with the Daniel Jones we saw tonight. That guy can win in this league. Two things have to be corrected:
1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.
Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
Agreed, it was actually exciting, and Jones made some plays to elevate his teammates, which is greatly see. Love to see it more throughout the season.
If you are going to miss in the first round, don’t miss on a fucking tight end that can’t block. You need that fucking guy to be a 700 yard 5TD player to even scratch the surface of proper value in the first round. So awful.
Thomas wants you to hold his beer.
RE: RE: i honestly don't know how anyone can defend the fucking GM
If you are going to miss in the first round, don’t miss on a fucking tight end that can’t block. You need that fucking guy to be a 700 yard 5TD player to even scratch the surface of proper value in the first round. So awful.
Thomas wants you to hold his beer.
Engram has been in the league long enough to know he’s a bust. Thomas may get there, but still a bit early.
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?
who put together the roster? this team is worse than when he got here
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
No chance? We said that about Reese for four years before he was fired.
John Mara is not going to fire DG in the middle of this season... or after the season.
You're on. I think he finishes this season and then he's kaput. Mara emphasized that he expects to see improvement this season. Well, that hasn't happened.
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?
This is fantastic! I see what you did there...👀
Whichever team wins the NFC East will be eliminated in the first round. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that we're getting a higher pick because Lord knows we would go nowhere in the Playoffs.
lets be honest they would "fake" meaningful games. We are a 2pt conversion away from being 0-7...the east stinks and its the only reason people have faith. Its not because the giants deserve it.
They will be embarrassed by the Bucs and then they will be 1-7.
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?
This is fantastic! I see what you did there...👀
You couldn't possibly tarnish a resume THAT good
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?
Who picked Turnstile Thomas with the 4th pick of the draft ?
Who is responsible for this Defense allowing 2 TD in the last 6 minutes of the game ?
The talent on this team is atrocious and it starts with him
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I'm 49 years old and this is the most unlikeable group of Giants players that I can ever remember watching. It's just misery.
Fuck. This. Team.
Unlikeable? No... the 2017 team says hello. Just bad? Absolutely.
Unlikeable. At least 2017 had a Hall of Famer at quarterback and JPP on the roster. This team has jack shit for talent, and not only that, the talent that they have is overrated.
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?
who put together the roster? this team is worse than when he got here
The Giants lose a heart breaker and it’s the GM’s fault? Was he dropping the pass or Engram? Was he committing the PI in the end zone?
Come on.
I'm sick of losing!
He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.
You are correct. Slightly ahead of him. Problem is in that situation where a first down likely seals the game you have to extend and make sure of the catch. Because he is a loser and has stone hands he did not. He is the anti-football player. Cancer Hands Engram is a loser.
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The only issue is who replaces him. It better not be someone with any Giant ties.
Wait. This łoss is indicative of the GM?
who put together the roster? this team is worse than when he got here
The Giants lose a heart breaker and it’s the GM’s fault? Was he dropping the pass or Engram? Was he committing the PI in the end zone?
Come on.
True. Last couple years have been a classic case of “good management - the players just gotta make it happen”
Engram? Get him the fuck off of this team. You cant get a 6th for him? Then cut him. Tomorrow. They gave him every possible opportunity, and he continually shits the bed. And tonight you cab easily argue that it cost them the game.
It looked like he tried a cutback with the guy matched up on him. Shouldn’t have bothered.
Engram? Get him the fuck off of this team. You cant get a 6th for him? Then cut him. Tomorrow. They gave him every possible opportunity, and he continually shits the bed. And tonight you cab easily argue that it cost them the game.
Agree i like Judge a lot but i will lose a lot of respect for him if these 2 are starting next game
The real homer troll said this about a previous game and he was mocking him.
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but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.
He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.
That ball was perfectly thrown. It was dropped right on him and it was a great call by Garrett. Engram dropped an easy fucking catch.
Shepard's a great kid, but he should be primarily a slot guy. He's not an outside guy. Too small. And man, we REALLY missed out on Michael Thomas.
Yeah, that was kinda my take on it too. He definitely appeared to slow down.
The real homer troll said this about a previous game and he was mocking him.
No one ever defended DG, they only said he was good in Carolina...
I totally agree Dave - did Peart get any reps? I didn’t see him.
Dude. I feel your pain. I was absolutely going to type a post to you tonight after the Giants won and tell you that you were the only one giving them a chance on BBI this week.
I feel your pain.
Doesn’t it feel that way? Just anonymously shuffling off to yet another loss.
1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.
Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
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but I didn't think it was a straight drop by Engram. The ball went off the tips of his fingers, and it would have been a tough grab.
He probably should have laid out for it to give himself a better chance, but I think a lot of people are coloring their view of that play based on the commentary of Aikman and their bias against Engram.
That ball was perfectly thrown. It was dropped right on him and it was a great call by Garrett. Engram dropped an easy fucking catch.
You're parroting Troy Aikman. I re-watched the play - it's a make-able catch if Engram extends himself, but the ball thrown certainly wasn't perfect and the catch wouldn't have been easy. The ball went just off his finger tips.
Rewatch it again.. Fucking EE is keaning towards the sideline hoping to snag the ball and head away from the oncoming safety..He fucked up a perfectly thrown ball..
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LBH was doing his faux troll thing, which has been quite amusing.
The real homer troll said this about a previous game and he was mocking him.
No one ever defended DG, they only said he was good in Carolina...
Not sure why you guys want to continue a fight from last week.
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... who on this team do you feel kind of bonded to, who feels like a real Giant? It’s just a random group of dudes. No history, no achievement, no leader, it feels like they are starting from zero in building a winning culture.
Shepard's a great kid, but he should be primarily a slot guy. He's not an outside guy. Too small. And man, we REALLY missed out on Michael Thomas.
Sigh.
Who’s defending the GM? I am just saying this loss tonight isn’t because a Gettleman dropped the ball.
1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.
I don’t agree with everything that you say, but your season long optimism about Judge and Graham gives me optimism. I just don’t know if Mara can put his ego aside and not hire “his” Gm.
Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
1. Got to get a GM to work side by side with Judge to acquire players Judge wants
2. Got to get an offensive coordinator that understands what Jones is and is not. Garrett is not putting him or the rest of the offense in the best position to succeed.
Tonight is the first time I felt like this since 2004. That we have direction.
Agreed, it was actually exciting, and Jones made some plays to elevate his teammates, which is greatly see. Love to see it more throughout the season.
Thomas wants you to hold his beer.
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we are worse and more devoid of talent than we he got here.
Who’s defending the GM? I am just saying this loss tonight isn’t because a Gettleman dropped the ball.
Sure he has- on many of player evaluations that aided in coasting us this game.
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If you are going to miss in the first round, don’t miss on a fucking tight end that can’t block. You need that fucking guy to be a 700 yard 5TD player to even scratch the surface of proper value in the first round. So awful.
Thomas wants you to hold his beer.
Engram has been in the league long enough to know he’s a bust. Thomas may get there, but still a bit early.