Fuck Jabril Peppers.
Peppers is not a football player. It's laughable to think that people considered him "another first round pick" in the OBJ trade.
He got beat like a rented fucking mule to (help) lose the game.
I've disliked Peppers and his fucking ego/attitude since he was going to high school down the street from me, I thought he was overrated at Michigan, and while Engram is complete ass and really has no reason to be on this roster anymore, let's not forget how utterly useless Jabrill Peppers is.
If they're gonna keep him on this roster, and try to get any positive production out of him, they might as well move him to RB. At least at that position you can go based off athleticism, since he clearly does not have the inherent instinct to play in the secondary.
Fuck this team lol
The real issue here is Engram (needs to be traded), Lewis #37, and Harper #45 (whoever the hell he is). All three of these have to go
The real issue here is Engram (needs to be traded), Lewis #37, and Harper #45 (whoever the hell he is). All three of these have to go
I thought so as well. That was just a great throw and catch between Wentz and Scott. One of those situation where you just tip your hat to the other players who get paid too...
I guarantee when the staff does their grading he'll be right behind Bradberry as being the best in this game in the DB group.
He not only was stout in run support, but he actually had two pass defenses too.
This team just lays down when it matters.
The real issue here is Engram (needs to be traded), Lewis #37, and Harper #45 (whoever the hell he is). All three of these have to go
First off, I will admit straight up that I have disliked Peppers since he was in HS and I was taking the light rail past St Peters as he talked monumental amounts of shit about Rutgers before going to Michigan. But that's not (purely) influencing my utter dislike for him.
He wasn't that good at Michigan, and he definitely was not a 1st round safety. He was not a good piece/asset/value in the OBJ trade. He came to the Giants, and immediately proved he could not play safety. They picked up his option (why?) and once again, in the big spot, he comes up short.
To me, that's the main point. Cool, Jabril Peppers played "very very well" (he didn't play very very well, maybe okay) for the first time -- and still, as usual, with the game on the line, got beat by Boston fucking Scott to lose the game.
Fuck Peppers. It's unreal that OBJ fell off a cliff and we somehow still lost that fucking trade when you factor in Baker and Peppers. OBJ is a shell of himself, yet somehow, the Giants still managed to come out on the shit end of the stick!
Eh just let him rant.
You know my blood is boiling when I'm sticking up for Sonic Youth.
Agreed. Fuck this team.
I guarantee when the staff does their grading he'll be right behind Bradberry as being the best in this game in the DB group.
He not only was stout in run support, but he actually had two pass defenses too.
Totally agree. Bradberry right now is in the hunt for being one of the best five corners in the game.
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Eh just let him rant.
You know my blood is boiling when I'm sticking up for Sonic Youth.
Agreed. Fuck this team.
Staff: Garrett and his entire offensive staff
Offensive Players: Engram, Tate, Fleming, Lewis, Zeitler (contract)
Defense: Any CB not named Bradberry and Holmes, Ebner (at least on defense)
Dont risk his health by returning punts? How about not risking your pass defense by allowing him to do anything BUT return kicks?
I guarantee when the staff does their grading he'll be right behind Bradberry as being the best in this game in the DB group.
He not only was stout in run support, but he actually had two pass defenses too.
Oh, and bc he's been fucking terrible on this team since he's been on it. You know, like the way he played a "great game" tonight and still managed to be involved in the game losing play.
What's next bro, a torrent of fucking insults?
The guy who has DG's balls on his fuckin chin is asking about Jabril Peppers lol. Fuck off, you're the biggest asshole on this board
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I seriously don't understand what you guys are looking at. The announcers even pointed out how many plays he was making. I think everyone is overreacting to the last TD pass, which he had tight coverage on but the guy made a good catch.
The real issue here is Engram (needs to be traded), Lewis #37, and Harper #45 (whoever the hell he is). All three of these have to go
This post was inspired by the last TD pass, but that is not all of the supporting evidence behind this post.
First off, I will admit straight up that I have disliked Peppers since he was in HS and I was taking the light rail past St Peters as he talked monumental amounts of shit about Rutgers before going to Michigan. But that's not (purely) influencing my utter dislike for him.
He wasn't that good at Michigan, and he definitely was not a 1st round safety. He was not a good piece/asset/value in the OBJ trade. He came to the Giants, and immediately proved he could not play safety. They picked up his option (why?) and once again, in the big spot, he comes up short.
To me, that's the main point. Cool, Jabril Peppers played "very very well" (he didn't play very very well, maybe okay) for the first time -- and still, as usual, with the game on the line, got beat by Boston fucking Scott to lose the game.
Fuck Peppers. It's unreal that OBJ fell off a cliff and we somehow still lost that fucking trade when you factor in Baker and Peppers. OBJ is a shell of himself, yet somehow, the Giants still managed to come out on the shit end of the stick!
I agree with you Sonic. I live in the Detroit area and all of the U of M fans here felt he was overrated and underperformed in college. It’s continued now into the pros. Another “athlete” like Engram. You can jump fuckin 50 feet in the air and run a 4.1 40 yard dash but if you can’t shine with pads on it doesn’t matter. That’s why guys like Cruz are special, because they didn’t put up crazy fast times or look like world beaters in training sessions but on the field they make plays and helped their team win.
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Oh I read. In fact, you should double check the other thread. I realized right after I posted this that this was a duplicate thread -- and, as I said in the other thread, Jabril Peppers sucks so much fucking ass that he deserves two threads about him.
OK that was funny.
Staff: Garrett and his entire offensive staff
Offensive Players: Engram, Tate, Fleming, Lewis, Zeitler (contract)
Defense: Any CB not named Bradberry and Holmes, Ebner (at least on defense)
you forgot breeze_94 cuz he sucks too
so be upset but be fucking rational.
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I seriously don't understand what you guys are looking at. The announcers even pointed out how many plays he was making. I think everyone is overreacting to the last TD pass, which he had tight coverage on but the guy made a good catch.
The real issue here is Engram (needs to be traded), Lewis #37, and Harper #45 (whoever the hell he is). All three of these have to go
This post was inspired by the last TD pass, but that is not all of the supporting evidence behind this post.
First off, I will admit straight up that I have disliked Peppers since he was in HS and I was taking the light rail past St Peters as he talked monumental amounts of shit about Rutgers before going to Michigan. But that's not (purely) influencing my utter dislike for him.
He wasn't that good at Michigan, and he definitely was not a 1st round safety. He was not a good piece/asset/value in the OBJ trade. He came to the Giants, and immediately proved he could not play safety. They picked up his option (why?) and once again, in the big spot, he comes up short.
To me, that's the main point. Cool, Jabril Peppers played "very very well" (he didn't play very very well, maybe okay) for the first time -- and still, as usual, with the game on the line, got beat by Boston fucking Scott to lose the game.
Fuck Peppers. It's unreal that OBJ fell off a cliff and we somehow still lost that fucking trade when you factor in Baker and Peppers. OBJ is a shell of himself, yet somehow, the Giants still managed to come out on the shit end of the stick!
I agree with you Sonic. I live in the Detroit area and all of the U of M fans here felt he was overrated and underperformed in college. It’s continued now into the pros. Another “athlete” like Engram. You can jump fuckin 50 feet in the air and run a 4.1 40 yard dash but if you can’t shine with pads on it doesn’t matter. That’s why guys like Cruz are special, because they didn’t put up crazy fast times or look like world beaters in training sessions but on the field they make plays and helped their team win.
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please clue me in on why Peppers is getting singled out?
I guarantee when the staff does their grading he'll be right behind Bradberry as being the best in this game in the DB group.
He not only was stout in run support, but he actually had two pass defenses too.
Because I don't fucking like him, I never fucking like him, he's been bad on this team, and contrary to what you think, other people can have fucking opinions on this board.
Oh, and bc he's been fucking terrible on this team since he's been on it. You know, like the way he played a "great game" tonight and still managed to be involved in the game losing play.
What's next bro, a torrent of fucking insults?
The guy who has DG's balls on his fuckin chin is asking about Jabril Peppers lol. Fuck off, you're the biggest asshole on this board
You are asking if a torrent of fucking insults is coming your way and then you type the last fucking line??
Fuck you and the decrepit horse you rode in on you piece of shit.
Watch the fucking game and either understand what the fuck you are seeing or shut the fuck up. You hate Peppers so you rant about it. What do you really want the response to be, fucking applause? Change the tampon, asswipe.
There isn’t much to say except, maybe, don’t go overboard on your “evaluation” on a a player when the other guy makes a play.
so be upset but be fucking rational.
BUT having said that - this post is not solely about one game. He's been terrible on this team, and one of the FEW time he's had a game that you would consider above average, he STILL MANAGES TO HELP LOSE THE GAME!!!!
And this guy was a hallmark of the trade we executed to send our most talented player off our team for? Beckham being far worse now is immaterial -- nobody knew it at the time. The front office thought this guy was a useful piece. He's not. Even when he's good, he loses the game.
You know that thread that says "EVAN ENGRAM IS A LOSER" -- so is Peppers.
But you know, DG's culture and shit. What a joke of a franchise we've become.
so be upset but be fucking rational.
How did he misplay the ball? It was a perfect throw to the outside shoulder of Scott.
The other team gets paid, too, you know...
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please clue me in on why Peppers is getting singled out?
I guarantee when the staff does their grading he'll be right behind Bradberry as being the best in this game in the DB group.
He not only was stout in run support, but he actually had two pass defenses too.
Because I don't fucking like him, I never fucking like him, he's been bad on this team, and contrary to what you think, other people can have fucking opinions on this board.
Oh, and bc he's been fucking terrible on this team since he's been on it. You know, like the way he played a "great game" tonight and still managed to be involved in the game losing play.
What's next bro, a torrent of fucking insults?
The guy who has DG's balls on his fuckin chin is asking about Jabril Peppers lol. Fuck off, you're the biggest asshole on this board
You are asking if a torrent of fucking insults is coming your way and then you type the last fucking line??
Fuck you and the decrepit horse you rode in on you piece of shit.
Watch the fucking game and either understand what the fuck you are seeing or shut the fuck up. You hate Peppers so you rant about it. What do you really want the response to be, fucking applause? Change the tampon, asswipe.
Blah blah blah shut the fuck up dipshit. Your act is old. I scanned your post and all I saw was "decrepit horse". Get some more relevant insults when you're posting on a message board for an NYC football team, I have no idea what you were even going for with that.
Also, just want to reiterate: go fuck yourself. You're by far the most abrasive, rudest, pigheaded poster on this board, that it's just worn thin at this point.
The only thing that's interesting about your post is trying to judge how much bbq sauce you got on under your fat rolls based on the amount of explicitives in your post.
Hey how's DG's balls taste, dumbass? Don't address me again
FUCK OFF
Sleep it off you fucking tool
Do you think I'm 400 pounds there, Chief?
No. However it makes him a serious liability in coverage.
There isn’t much to say except, maybe, don’t go overboard on your “evaluation” on a a player when the other guy makes a play.
Having said that, I think that at this point in Peppers career, we can all admit that he is not going to develop into a safety who can make plays without being a liability in the absence of a specialized role in a cohesive system with other players around him.
He does not elevate the defense, he is not an impact player in the slightest, he was not an "extra 1st round pick", and he just isn't all that good.
I mentioned it a couple times in this thread, but this is beyond that one play and this one game.
Call it a masturbatory victory lap if you will, as I'm admitting I NEVER liked this guy and always thought he was a dick who never had the drive to turn his athleticism into football talent.
We're all pissed here, so I'm just letting loose. This board is dead AF and I am usually not as loud-mouthed as I am now, but for fucks sake, I'm sure we can all agree that Peppers is not a good safety.
Peppers is a small LB good against the run. In pass coverage he has his brains in his ass. And that’s a generous description. If he’s on the roster next season, we are fucked. Royally fucked.
First round pick.
The real issue here is Engram (needs to be traded), Lewis #37, and Harper #45 (whoever the hell he is). All three of these have to go
Dont tell that to Sonic..
It'll screw up hos high brah
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I seriously don't understand what you guys are looking at. The announcers even pointed out how many plays he was making. I think everyone is overreacting to the last TD pass, which he had tight coverage on but the guy made a good catch.
The real issue here is Engram (needs to be traded), Lewis #37, and Harper #45 (whoever the hell he is). All three of these have to go
Dont tell that to Sonic..
It'll screw up hos high brah
he's sucked the entire time he's been on this team, and yet when he has a semblance of a serviceable game, he's still involved in one of the key game losing plays.
Now that's a losing player
Just sayin brah. And trust me, my high has been killed broski
Is when the ball is thrown in the air.
Otherwise he’s good to go.
Is when the ball is thrown in the air.
Otherwise he’s good to go.
+10000
He was supposed to have coverage over the top it was clear as day..
Some have to defend their boy Resume Dave
Isn’t he also playing the other safety position until xm gets back? Clearly he isn’t the coverage safety and better in the box
He did get abused in coverage earlier, but overall, I thought he played well, especially in the box.
The best thing I saw was when he was brought off the field versus Dallas after making a first down tackle on a run.
To me, he's just another Landon Collins, minus the big hits.
I like him on specials (although his one fair catch was horrible last night).....and I am surprised the Giants don't try to work him into the offense to be honest given our lack of weapons.
But the real question is, is he worth resigning? If not I'd try to trade him away honestly.
That's the play I was thinking of. Peppers completely misplayed that one. I thought his coverage on the winning TD was solid. Maybe he could have turned earlier to track the ball, but as I said, great throw - great catch. Sometimes you've just got to tip your cap.
The best thing I saw was when he was brought off the field versus Dallas after making a first down tackle on a run.
To me, he's just another Landon Collins, minus the big hits.
I like him on specials (although his one fair catch was horrible last night).....and I am surprised the Giants don't try to work him into the offense to be honest given our lack of weapons.
But the real question is, is he worth resigning? If not I'd try to trade him away honestly.
We can try to trade Jabril Peppers, but we'd have to throw in a draft choice as well. There's got to be a league where the forward pass has been discontinued. That's where he belongs.
and he has the balls to want to get some reps on offense?
This ignores the fact that Peppers is on his 4th head coach in his 4th season and the first three were with awful (I mean awfu) teams. I don't love everything Peppers does but I don't think the final chapter on him is written. And tnstincts can be developed in a stable, well-designed defensive system.
Patience.
(And, in the meantime, exactly who on the team is supposed to replace him.)
This ignores the fact that Peppers is on his 4th head coach in his 4th season and the first three were with awful (I mean awfu) teams. I don't love everything Peppers does but I don't think the final chapter on him is written. And tnstincts can be developed in a stable, well-designed defensive system.
Patience.
(And, in the meantime, exactly who on the team is supposed to replace him.)
Jabril Peppers is a huge liability whenever the ball is in the air. No amount of stable coaching is gonna change that fact. Against the run, no problema. Against the pass, just a total disaster. Needs to be gone. Package him with Engram and hope we get a 5th Round pick.