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The play that really shows Engram is a loser

cosmicj : 10/23/2020 6:54 am
I thought the tipped pass and drop in the 4th quarter were awful plays but the play that really convinced me Engram is a loser was the attempted hurdle. He had to get 4-5 yards to get the first down. A smart player makes a move, probably to the right, away from the second defender coming in fast, and hopes to break the tackle and fight his way to the first down market.

Instead, our resident brain surgeon, a guy with legendary football instincts, decides to hurdle the defender, a move that has a near zero chance of making the first down. (And it was dangerous for Engram, too.)

Then after this colossal lack of instinctiveness on a play that Failed (failed!) you see this fool snickering on the sideline. Loser.
Someone should put together  
cjac : 10/23/2020 6:58 am : link
A lowlight reel of Engrams fuck ups
Engram almost makes you miss Larry Donnell  
truebluelarry : 10/23/2020 7:03 am : link
doesn't he?
I would cut him today.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2020 7:05 am : link
He is trash.
Engram sucks  
rocco8112 : 10/23/2020 7:10 am : link
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RE: Engram almost makes you miss Larry Donnell  
rocco8112 : 10/23/2020 7:10 am : link
In comment 15021165 truebluelarry said:
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doesn't he?


amazing and true
Jerry Reese’s parting gift  
jeff57 : 10/23/2020 7:10 am : link
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Reese  
broadbandz : 10/23/2020 7:18 am : link
left a turd and didnt flush.
Boomer and Gio  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/23/2020 7:21 am : link
Are always weirdly optimistic about the Giants. I don’t know if it’s because the Fan is the flagship or what. But this morning it was all about what a great guy Engram is, how he’s the type of guy you want on your team, pass was a little overthrown etc
When he catches the ball...  
EricJ : 10/23/2020 7:22 am : link
he does not look to run upfield... he looks for the sideline every time. I cannot tell you how many times over the past couple of years he has given up an opportunity to potentially move the chains.
RE: Boomer and Gio  
Steve in Greenwich : 10/23/2020 7:23 am : link
In comment 15021179 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Are always weirdly optimistic about the Giants. I don’t know if it’s because the Fan is the flagship or what. But this morning it was all about what a great guy Engram is, how he’s the type of guy you want on your team, pass was a little overthrown etc

I turned off the show during the opening line where Boomer was saying that the pass wasn't perfect and needed to be a little bit easier for Engram. Can't stomach listening to that much bullshit to start a morning.
Soft  
greek13 : 10/23/2020 7:24 am : link
Judge won’t tolerate soft - our charmin TE is on his way out
37 Should be carrying DGs bags as all 3 leave the building
RE: Boomer and Gio  
rocco8112 : 10/23/2020 7:39 am : link
In comment 15021179 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Are always weirdly optimistic about the Giants. I don’t know if it’s because the Fan is the flagship or what. But this morning it was all about what a great guy Engram is, how he’s the type of guy you want on your team, pass was a little overthrown etc


Little over thrown?!?

Pass me that fucking pipe, perfect pass to seal a huge win.

Unreal
RE: I would cut him today.  
Victor in CT : 10/23/2020 7:39 am : link
In comment 15021166 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He is trash.


Agree. He's untradeable. All his shit from 4 years is on film.
What GM in this league is sitting  
rocco8112 : 10/23/2020 7:42 am : link
around thinking Engram is the answer for their team? If some idiot makes an offer trade him.
To add one more Engram lowlight  
rsjem1979 : 10/23/2020 7:59 am : link
On the Giants first drive of the night, Kaden Smith was called for offensive PI. In watching the play, it looked to me like Engram ran his route too shallow which forced Smith to make a more obvious "pick" rather than a rub.

If Engram runs his route at the correct depth, it's no penalty, and probably a first down (he was tackled short on 3rd and 3 anyway).

I'm so annoyed this morning.
RE: To add one more Engram lowlight  
weeg in the bronx : 10/23/2020 8:09 am : link
In comment 15021242 rsjem1979 said:
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On the Giants first drive of the night, Kaden Smith was called for offensive PI. In watching the play, it looked to me like Engram ran his route too shallow which forced Smith to make a more obvious "pick" rather than a rub.

If Engram runs his route at the correct depth, it's no penalty, and probably a first down (he was tackled short on 3rd and 3 anyway).

I'm so annoyed this morning.


Typical of engram - he runs the route at the first down line. Gets called back but its just another example of what a putz he is.
RE: Engram almost makes you miss Larry Donnell  
Bramton1 : 10/23/2020 8:20 am : link
In comment 15021165 truebluelarry said:
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doesn't he?


I'd rather have Donnell, who once caught a last second touchdown to beat the 49ers. Engram would have dropped it.
Unbelievable  
Jeffrey : 10/23/2020 8:31 am : link
Yes let's cut Engram. Let's trade him for a 5th or 6th draft choice and allow the idiot GM to make the pick. Engram is not playing well and is horribly inconsistent, but other than making an emotional fan base feel better for about 90 seconds, it is stupid to trade him now or cut him after a bad performance and get nothing in return. He is still a better receiving option than other TEs on this team and most receivers. Cut Engram but keep Smith who cannot block or run, or Tate who is collecting a check as he waits for his next team, or any of the receivers not named Shepard or Slayton?

Engram is almost certainly not the answer long term but if you want to know what you have in Jones before the next draft (and that jury is still very much out) you simply cannot take away every weapon--even one as inconsistent a Engram. Go ahead and fire away all you want but in a season going nowhere--again--jettisoning players particularly when their value is low is just not very smart--which means it is exactly the move the Giants will probably make.

The one thing you want to see from him you don't see often enough  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/23/2020 8:40 am : link
when he gets those sweeps, I want to really see him destroy pursuit angles, the guy runs a 4.4, let's see that explosive burst. Instead he runs to the sideline, looking to make his cut, dude just go. If you pile drive someone for 5 yds thats good. Instead you get nudged out for no gain. You are a TE!

When you see his burst on the route where he dropped the ball, he stacked the CB really well, I mean, I want to see that vs LBs all day long.
good catch rsjem  
mittenedman : 10/23/2020 8:58 am : link
This guy's route-running is horrific. I think it's quietly the worst part of his game. He is an endless string of missed blocks, bad routes, drops, caused INTs and stupidity. Every once in a while, he runs really fast in a straight line. Soft as a marshmellow. Has to be wrapped in bubble for camp and doesn't participate in any of the preseason games or scrimmages.

Off the top of my head, Remember the 4th and G route he screwed up. The drop on the opening drive vs. the Steelers. Fumbling the pitch on the opening drive vs. the Cowboys. Ruining the Eagles game.

Just off the top. You can't let this guy around the team anymore.
Total Bullshit  
NJLCO : 10/23/2020 9:06 am : link
Unbelievable your comments are total bullshit. 4 years of his play has produced absolutely nothing indicating a solid TE in the NFL. So your theory is he is better than anyone else that we have. I guess you never were in sales. Every sales manager that worked for me learned a valuable lesson early on in their careers. You NEVER leave a non producer in the seat just to keep it warm. That approach will leave YOU out of a job quicker than anything else. EE has NOT produced in 4 years so it time to send a message. If our other tight end played last night because EE was benched or gone would it have made a difference in the outcome? WTF It's time.
Oh man, I forgot about that play. I thought the same thing cosmic  
LBH15 : 10/23/2020 9:12 am : link
Immediately after the play happened, my son and I looked at each other with disdain at what a foolish move that was by Engram and said in concert, "what a moron".
RE: RE: Engram almost makes you miss Larry Donnell  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/23/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 15021172 rocco8112 said:
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doesn't he?



amazing and true


Makes me miss Bob Tucker and Mark Bavaro
Larry Donnel  
Black_Flag : 10/23/2020 9:33 am : link
Are you kidding? They guy was the worst TE in the league.
Engram needs to be traded  
Black_Flag : 10/23/2020 9:34 am : link
or become a role player or something but come on. I've seen E Engram make some plays. I have seen him play lights out. I have never seen Larry donnel do any of that.
They guy is in his 4th year....  
BillKo : 10/23/2020 9:37 am : link
.......and stil can't be an impact player as a former #1 choice. He can't even be average. He's below average.


He should be benched - or demoted - and put on the market. He's be a waste of money to invest a 5th year in. Someone would surely be interested in trying to turn him around.

Engram set the tone of the first drive vesus Pitt. Either had a drop or penalty, then in the endzone had zero feel how to find open space at the goal line on a pass from Jones.

He should have snatched that ball out of the air last night.
RE: Engram almost makes you miss Larry Donnell  
BillKo : 10/23/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 15021165 truebluelarry said:
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doesn't he?


I'd have to say Donnell made bigger plays.........
RE: RE: Boomer and Gio  
BillKo : 10/23/2020 9:39 am : link
In comment 15021182 Steve in Greenwich said:
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In comment 15021179 Ned In Atlanta said:


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Are always weirdly optimistic about the Giants. I don’t know if it’s because the Fan is the flagship or what. But this morning it was all about what a great guy Engram is, how he’s the type of guy you want on your team, pass was a little overthrown etc


I turned off the show during the opening line where Boomer was saying that the pass wasn't perfect and needed to be a little bit easier for Engram. Can't stomach listening to that much bullshit to start a morning.


It wasn't perfect. But NFL receivers are supposed to catch that ball.
Evan "Cancer Hands" Engram has to go  
averagejoe : 10/23/2020 9:42 am : link
He is the anti-player. He is a guy that helps you lose every week. Whatever it takes to lose the game he has it. Other teams intentionally leave him open and double dog dare the Giants to throw to him. He is the black hole where good plays go to die. I would rather see the Giants line up with 10 players than to ever see him on the field again.
I'm carrying a pitchfork chasing Engram, too ...  
Beezer : 10/23/2020 9:42 am : link
... but JFC, Larry Donnell? Dude would fall down ... on his head ... to avoid a tackle.

Little riled is expected. Hell, a LOT riled is warranted Let's not be completely insane.
come on  
Black_Flag : 10/23/2020 9:45 am : link
I guess as fans you get to say this stuff. it is ignorant.

It was a little overthrown anyway. And he made some plays last night.
RE: come on  
Angel Eyes : 10/23/2020 9:45 am : link
In comment 15021505 Black_Flag said:
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I guess as fans you get to say this stuff. it is ignorant.

It was a little overthrown anyway. And he made some plays last night.

He could have gotten there if he didn't try an inside cutback at the beginning of the route.
Show me a time when larry donnel did this  
Black_Flag : 10/23/2020 9:47 am : link
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I remember his first TD  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/23/2020 9:47 am : link
of his rookie season. Against the Lions on MNF. Wide open short pass from Eli. Engram proceeded to get an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty because he repeatedly grabbed his crotch during his celebration.

The best part was that the refs let it go until the third time he did it. Then they had to throw the flag. Of course McAdoo didn't seem too upset at the time about it.

I immediately had concerns for the young man's mental capacity.

He's simply not a NFL player. Never was, never will be.
RE: come on  
averagejoe : 10/23/2020 9:51 am : link
In comment 15021505 Black_Flag said:
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I guess as fans you get to say this stuff. it is ignorant.

It was a little overthrown anyway. And he made some plays last night.


Dude - in that situation with game on the line YOU HAVE TO CATCH THAT BALL.He did not extend to make that catch because he is a LOOZER .
Really sorry about that drop Sonny, I'll go run a lap  
ghost718 : 10/23/2020 10:39 am : link
He’s terrible...  
trueblueinpw : 10/23/2020 10:51 am : link
Has the talent to be a playmaker but not the will. The hurdle is a good example of this. Would Kittle or Kelce hurdle there or would they lower a shoulder and take the contact? Idk... but with EE he has all the skills and talent but just seems to lack the will. Blocking is another area where he’s terrible and so much of blocking is just willingness. EE just doesn’t want it.
RE: come on  
Victor in CT : 10/23/2020 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15021505 Black_Flag said:
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I guess as fans you get to say this stuff. it is ignorant.

It was a little overthrown anyway. And he made some plays last night.


Bullshit. That ball was on the money. What plays? Who cares? his 2 gaffes caused an INT and the end of the game for the Iggles.
I'm going as Engram for Halloween this year  
PatersonPlank : 10/23/2020 1:20 pm : link

RE: He’s terrible...  
PatersonPlank : 10/23/2020 1:21 pm : link
In comment 15021685 trueblueinpw said:
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Has the talent to be a playmaker but not the will. The hurdle is a good example of this. Would Kittle or Kelce hurdle there or would they lower a shoulder and take the contact? Idk... but with EE he has all the skills and talent but just seems to lack the will. Blocking is another area where he’s terrible and so much of blocking is just willingness. EE just doesn’t want it.


He doesn't have the skills. He has lousy hands and he isn't quick enough to get separation. All he really has is straight line speed.
RE: Show me a time when larry donnel did this  
BillKo : 10/23/2020 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15021510 Black_Flag said:
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Versus San Franciso, Sunday night in 2015 maybe? Game winner with the clock running out.


Your video shows garbage time with game lost. Zero pressure.

Last night was a pressure situation...........
RE: I'm going as Engram for Halloween this year  
Blue21 : 10/23/2020 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15022104 PatersonPlank said:
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Those hands should be stones
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