This is not a tanking thread, this is not a doom and gloom thread, this is what you want to see setting up next year.
I want to see Jones build off of last night, keep playing the way he did last night.
I want to see the young guys on the offensive line to grow and get better and be plqying best by the end of the season.
Defensively i want to see cobtinued improvement, i want to see when Mckinney comes back how this secondary starts to gel..
What's done is done with Reese (for the few guys he still owns on this roster) and Gettleman. The future is Joe Judge.
The following players should be worried about their starting jobs, special teams roles or even their spot on this roster.
Evan Engram, Corey Ballentine, Ryan Lewis, Madre Harper, Andrew Thomas
I’m looking for that kind of progress this year. Steal a couple games that they aren’t expected to win. Be competitive. At minimum, go 3-3 in the division, more specifically, beat Dallas/Philly at home. I’d like to see Jones build off last nights game.
Bring in more assets if possible shedding any veterans for draft picks.
This whole “tank and pick in the top 3” is garbage. There’s a reason shitty teams constantly are the same teams at the top of the draft.
This. If those rumors are true about Getty still shopping for Golladay, I’d take the keys away today. Start selling players that are not part of the future (next 2-3 years) , cause they have a very long road ahead rebuilding yet again. I’d shop Engram, Tate, Peppers (if he doesn’t fit moving forward), one of Williams and Tomlinson). Need to start selling today, and making room to bring in someone OUTSIDE the organization to be GM. How many years in a row is Mara going to continue with the sad sack empty resolutions. We are the worst team in the NFL going on 4 years now.
I’m looking for that kind of progress this year. Steal a couple games that they aren’t expected to win. Be competitive. At minimum, go 3-3 in the division, more specifically, beat Dallas/Philly at home. I’d like to see Jones build off last nights game.
Bring in more assets if possible shedding any veterans for draft picks.
This whole “tank and pick in the top 3” is garbage. There’s a reason shitty teams constantly are the same teams at the top of the draft.
How many times have the Giants won meaningless games at the end of the year and it’s led to zero impact on the following season?
Winning 3 games isn’t going to make this team better in 2021
This. If those rumors are true about Getty still shopping for Golladay, I’d take the keys away today. Start selling players that are not part of the future (next 2-3 years) , cause they have a very long road ahead rebuilding yet again. I’d shop Engram, Tate, Peppers (if he doesn’t fit moving forward), one of Williams and Tomlinson). Need to start selling today, and making room to bring in someone OUTSIDE the organization to be GM. How many years in a row is Mara going to continue with the sad sack empty resolutions. We are the worst team in the NFL going on 4 years now.
This. If those rumors are true about Getty still shopping for Golladay, I’d take the keys away today. Start selling players that are not part of the future (next 2-3 years) , cause they have a very long road ahead rebuilding yet again. I’d shop Engram, Tate, Peppers (if he doesn’t fit moving forward), one of Williams and Tomlinson). Need to start selling today, and making room to bring in someone OUTSIDE the organization to be GM. How many years in a row is Mara going to continue with the sad sack empty resolutions. We are the worst team in the NFL going on 4 years now.
Not really. It’s been pretty obvious Judge is a good coach and that it was a good higher. I’d rather have a chance to get the best possible talent for Judge than win meaningless games for morale victories.
There’s no momentum from one season to another
Get picks, save $$$ and reevaluate later.
Gettleman has to be gone and another rebuild started. The last one yielded almost nothing. Bring in someone who can work with Judge and his staff to get talent that fits what they want to do.
A meritocracy. If Peart is playing better than Thomas, put Peart in. No scholarships. Everyone should be earning their snaps. If Gallman can add something let's work him in instead of defaulting snaps to Deion Lewis.
I want to see this team close out some games. They have gotten leads in several games and they need to learn how to play with one.
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If you want Judge & Jones to be successful, wins matter. If you prefer blowing everything up, then might as well lose out.
Not really. It’s been pretty obvious Judge is a good coach and that it was a good higher. I’d rather have a chance to get the best possible talent for Judge than win meaningless games for morale victories.
There’s no momentum from one season to another
So, you’d rather go 3-13 than 6-10? If this team plays well and closed out the season 5-4, that would be worthless for Judge & Jones?
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If you want Judge & Jones to be successful, wins matter. If you prefer blowing everything up, then might as well lose out.
Not really. It’s been pretty obvious Judge is a good coach and that it was a good higher. I’d rather have a chance to get the best possible talent for Judge than win meaningless games for morale victories.
There’s no momentum from one season to another
So, you’d rather go 3-13 than 6-10? If this team plays well and closed out the season 5-4, that would be worthless for Judge & Jones?
Yea I’d rather go 3-13 than 6-10. 6-10 gets you in no mans land and let’s people keep their jobs who shouldn’t, as we’ve seen before. If the Giants ended the season 5-4 you can bet your mortgage they’re keeping Gettleman
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In comment 15021466 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 15021446 Sean said:
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If you want Judge & Jones to be successful, wins matter. If you prefer blowing everything up, then might as well lose out.
Not really. It’s been pretty obvious Judge is a good coach and that it was a good higher. I’d rather have a chance to get the best possible talent for Judge than win meaningless games for morale victories.
There’s no momentum from one season to another
So, you’d rather go 3-13 than 6-10? If this team plays well and closed out the season 5-4, that would be worthless for Judge & Jones?
Yea I’d rather go 3-13 than 6-10. 6-10 gets you in no mans land and let’s people keep their jobs who shouldn’t, as we’ve seen before. If the Giants ended the season 5-4 you can bet your mortgage they’re keeping Gettleman
I woukd agree if the team was older playing a bunch of old vets, but playing young guys you absolutely want to see wins..
Preferably cut.
I need to see Andrew Thomas demoted to the practice squad.
I need to see Matt Peart start at LT for remainder of season.
I need to turn off the TV set and never watch another Giants game for the rest of this season.
Maybe next season, too.
Play the young guys as much as possible.
Bench Thomas for a few games, as much for his own benefit as Jones's health. I certainly think he should play more this season, but right now he needs to sit.
Investigate trading just about anyone, including Engram, Tate, Zeitler, Fleming, and Hill.
They need young talented horses. Alot of em.
Progress out of Jones. Less fumbling and less long runs which are gonna get him killed.
Progress out of Thomas and some playing time for Peart and Lemieux.
Engram traded for a defensive starter.
Graham has done a good job with the defense so I feel bad for him that a few bad plays flipped the entire script on his units effort. Same as I feel for Engram on the drop. These guys are playing hard and sometimes the other team just makes plays and momentum is a bitch. From the moment that flag hit the ground after the sack that would have made it 3rd and 15 the Eagles just did no wrong.
But bringing it back to the question - Judge had a really strong game and Jones took meaningful steps forward. If those 2 establish themselves over the rest of the year it will have been a successful season regardless of anything else. More games like the first 55 minutes yesterday and that will be the case.