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Gmen88 : 10/23/2020 10:06 am
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Daniel Jones has not had the chance one time to step up in the pocket.

Actually astounding if you think about it.
Silly Phil  
GiantEgo : 10/23/2020 10:11 am : link
He's supposed to "make plays" am I right? I mean play making players make plays right?

It's all about the plays, common Phil!
No one knows more about having no OL help early in a career  
arniefez : 10/23/2020 10:14 am : link
than Phil Simms. Of course he's correct but Jones has his own issues reading defenses and feeling the rush and sliding in the pocket. I'm not sure a QB ever "learns" that.
RE: Silly Phil  
Dr. D : 10/23/2020 10:15 am : link
In comment 15021567 GiantEgo said:
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He's supposed to "make plays" am I right? I mean play making players make plays right?

It's all about the plays, common Phil!


How dare you call Phil, common!

He's pretty special to me.
Every week we face all pro DE's  
averagejoe : 10/23/2020 10:19 am : link
Every JAG DE has a career game vs Giants. Every week. For the last 5 seasons. They all look like premium all pro edge rushers. They know it may be the only sacks they get all year so they make the most of it.
He is so right  
Crazed Dogs : 10/23/2020 10:31 am : link
Jones is constantly throwing off his back foot because he has someone in his face....
I'm so tired of it  
Johnny5 : 10/23/2020 10:38 am : link
We got some pressure on Wentz, but there were so many players where he could take his time and make something happen. I can't remember a play where Jones didn't have someone in his face or hitting him a split seconds after he releases a pass. It's infuriating.
Jones  
rocco8112 : 10/23/2020 10:39 am : link
made plays with his arms and legs last night. He fell, but his team picked him up after the longest QB run in team history.

He also would have iced the game with a perfect pass to Engram, which was dropped.

He also is willing to take a lickin' and keep on tickin. He is tough and takes hit. Many hits as his o line sucks and his LT blows so far.

At this time he is the least of the Giants' many problems.
RE: Jones  
Blue21 : 10/23/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 15021641 rocco8112 said:
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made plays with his arms and legs last night. He fell, but his team picked him up after the longest QB run in team history.

He also would have iced the game with a perfect pass to Engram, which was dropped.

He also is willing to take a lickin' and keep on tickin. He is tough and takes hit. Many hits as his o line sucks and his LT blows so far.

At this time he is the least of the Giants' many problems.


+1
RE: Every week we face all pro DE's  
Spider43 : 10/23/2020 10:54 am : link
In comment 15021595 averagejoe said:
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Every JAG DE has a career game vs Giants. Every week. For the last 5 seasons. They all look like premium all pro edge rushers. They know it may be the only sacks they get all year so they make the most of it.


Yup, it's always going to be something.
RE: RE: Every week we face all pro DE's  
AcidTest : 10/23/2020 11:22 am : link
In comment 15021703 Spider43 said:
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In comment 15021595 averagejoe said:


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Every JAG DE has a career game vs Giants. Every week. For the last 5 seasons. They all look like premium all pro edge rushers. They know it may be the only sacks they get all year so they make the most of it.



Yup, it's always going to be something.


If you're an edge rusher who's going to be a FA after the season, playing the Giants could allow you to get some easy sacks and make a lot more money.
Andrew Thomas has been a massive disappointment thus far.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/23/2020 11:31 am : link
He has to improve and NOW.
Jones has..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/23/2020 11:32 am : link
been pressured on over half of his dropbacks this season and it is getting worse, not better. He was pressured on over 60% of them last night
Just think if Phil or Eli  
Carl in CT : 10/23/2020 11:42 am : link
Was QB with this line. Might be 10 sacks a game.
60% wow  
Carl in CT : 10/23/2020 11:44 am : link
I wonder what the stat is for the entire year.
By each  
Carl in CT : 10/23/2020 11:45 am : link
Team
By  
Carl in CT : 10/23/2020 11:47 am : link
Team
RE: Jones  
DonQuixote : 10/23/2020 12:32 pm : link
In comment 15021641 rocco8112 said:
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made plays with his arms and legs last night. He fell, but his team picked him up after the longest QB run in team history.

He also would have iced the game with a perfect pass to Engram, which was dropped.

He also is willing to take a lickin' and keep on tickin. He is tough and takes hit. Many hits as his o line sucks and his LT blows so far.

At this time he is the least of the Giants' many problems.


+++
RE: Jones has..  
Thegratefulhead : 10/23/2020 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15021813 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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been pressured on over half of his dropbacks this season and it is getting worse, not better. He was pressured on over 60% of them last night
I love his poise, I think he is accurate. The ball needs to stop hitting the turf. Before you go and make an excuse for the fumble that happened last night. Don't. It has happened too often for it to be a statistical anomaly. He has to clean that up. I also disagree that the pass to Engram was perfect. Engram should have caught it, I agree, but it would have been a good catch. I re-watched it a few times. Finger tips. There is a possibility he has every single thing to be a franchise QB except the absolutely mandatory feel for the pass rush. He deserves more time before we move on but at some point you have to admit that the fumbling needs to be curtailed. It is unsustainable at the current rate.
Fumble to end the game  
Payasdaddy : 10/23/2020 12:58 pm : link
Is on jones
He has to ball against his waist instead of up high close to his ear
He supposed to have worked on this all spring
Fundamentals. Trained under cutliffe too
Not a q2 but isn’t that qb 101?
Basic stuff
Phil  
Simms : 10/23/2020 1:01 pm : link
I remember the gang green defense of the Eagles crushing Phil.... Jones is not facing anything close to the defenses of his era.
Pressure stat  
Tuckrule : 10/23/2020 1:18 pm : link
39 drop backs 16 pressures

6 from Andrew Thomas. I believe he had 9 last week
^^^  
Tuckrule : 10/23/2020 1:20 pm : link
Correction

34 drop backs. 16 pressures
I've been down on Jones this season  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2020 1:24 pm : link
But I thought he played well last night.
I think Phil might be exagerrating some....  
BillKo : 10/23/2020 1:31 pm : link
....but it's totally rare that I see him drop back and step up....because he can't.

Almost all our passes are drop back and boom......throw the pass.

It's rare we have a drop back where he can scan and go thru progressions without backing up or being flushed.

Luckily his athletcism allows him some relief.......
Critics of Jones here  
joeinpa : 10/23/2020 5:07 pm : link
Some of them, stopped being objective a while ago. I think they dislike DG to the pt. they want the kid to fail rather than admit they re wrong.

I stopped paying attention to them
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