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Giants have resisted trade offers for Evan Engram

Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/23/2020 10:37 am
Not clear if Dunleavy is talking only about prior years, but this is ANOTHER report saying there were offers.

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The Giants have resisted trade offers in the past on their 2017 first-round draft pick — this year’s trade deadline is Nov. 3 — waiting for the breakthrough believed to be on the cusp if he could avoid the rash of injuries that cut short his last two seasons. Well, he’s healthy now.

Evan Engram left with ‘sucky feeling’ after disastrous Giants drop - ( New Window )
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As long as we're conversing about Engram...  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/24/2020 2:14 am : link
I tell you what irritated me about him almost as much as the balls the went off or through his hands last night.

In his post game interview, where he announced how sucky he felt, he said something like "maybe the outcome of the game would have been different" if he had caught the third down bomb from Jones.

Dude, Evan, look straight into the fooking mirror... There was NO "MAYBE" there. You make that catch, your team WINS, BRO!

Fooking take some responsibility.

Practice catching the ball incessantly, in your sleep, give up sex, meditate on the ball sticking in your hands, vosualize it 24/7, whatever it fooking takes.

But also, just take responsibility when the team's loss is a thorn crown on your head.

Not "maybe."
I hope they resist no more.  
jpkmets : 10/24/2020 3:22 am : link
Would settle for a seventh, take a sixth, and be overjoyed at a fifth. He’s a huge net negative.
I hope they resist no more.  
jpkmets : 10/24/2020 3:22 am : link
Would settle for a seventh, take a sixth, and be overjoyed at a fifth. He’s a huge net negative.
I think the play with Engram should be a player for player  
LBH15 : 10/24/2020 8:34 am : link
trade. Maybe somebody else that needs a change of scenery like he does.

Just spitballing
LBH15  
bc4life : 10/24/2020 10:36 am : link
That would make more sense, IMHO.
RE: I think the play with Engram should be a player for player  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/24/2020 10:40 am : link
In comment 15022903 LBH15 said:
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trade. Maybe somebody else that needs a change of scenery like he does.

Just spitballing


David Njoku comes to mind honestly. We desperately need a redzone threat and he's been injured and a disappointment there as well. I'd pull the trigger on that trade in a second.
the player for player idea is a good- if you look at the '17 draft  
Eric on Li : 10/24/2020 10:46 am : link
you can see some of those guys have either already been moved (Jordan Willis) or are on teams who have decisions coming up that seem unlikely to bring them back. Juju comes to mind as a player having a poor year unlikely to go back to his team due to cost whereas Engram might be affordable enough for them to bring back (he's duplicative of Ebron, but also probably better).

Kenny Golladay was in that draft class as well and Rico had him rumored to possibly be on the move.

Peppers was in that class and we talked about moving him.

Njoku is very similar to Engram so not sure I'd do that - it'd be a swap just for the sake of a swap.

Corey Davis or John Ross have both been rumored out there. Haason Reddick.

Ultimately not sure if I'd do any of those deals 1 for 1, it's very dependent on who the coaches think will fit, but I'd be open to it for any of Engram, Peppers, Tate, Zeitler.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/draft.htm - ( New Window )
RE: I think the play with Engram should be a player for player  
.McL. : 10/24/2020 10:11 pm : link
In comment 15022903 LBH15 said:
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trade. Maybe somebody else that needs a change of scenery like he does.

Just spitballing

This is the only thing that makes any sense.
Nobody is going to want him at his current salary
RE: If you are the buyer for him  
bw in dc : 10/24/2020 11:05 pm : link
In comment 15022709 .McL. said:
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What are you buying?
8 games and then what?

The right to pay him 6M for his 5th year option?
Would anybody pay him 6M per at this point?

If you don't pick up the option he is a UFA. I don't see there being any market at all for him.


If a team has multiple late round picks - like three six rounders, for example - why not roll the dice for Engram? At least he has NFL experience and maybe a change of scenery is the magic recipe...
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chopperhatch : 10/24/2020 11:18 pm : link
In comment 15023578 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15022709 .McL. said:


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What are you buying?
8 games and then what?

The right to pay him 6M for his 5th year option?
Would anybody pay him 6M per at this point?

If you don't pick up the option he is a UFA. I don't see there being any market at all for him.



If a team has multiple late round picks - like three six rounders, for example - why not roll the dice for Engram? At least he has NFL experience and maybe a change of scenery is the magic recipe...


Because you have to replace him as a player and believe it or not, a player like him DOES have quite a bit of value.

I get the drops are infuriating. But he has produced before. I get that he isnt getting open that often, but could it be that teams are targeting him and Slayton in their schemes with Shephard being out?

Giving up EE for a 6th or even a 5th I dont think is worth it. You try and get another receiving threat next year and pick up his option.

However, I wpuld trade him for John Ross straight up.
Corey Davis  
KWALL2 : 10/25/2020 12:38 am : link
Ten would never do it. They don’t need a TE. Smith is beastly. The backup is really good.

Ross? That could help both teams.
RE: Corey Davis  
LBH15 : 10/25/2020 8:03 am : link
In comment 15023619 KWALL2 said:
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Ten would never do it. They don’t need a TE. Smith is beastly. The backup is really good.

Ross? That could help both teams.



Something like this is where I was going. Player for player trade for Engram.

Imagine a bunch of teams that have a green #3 or #4 wide-out they may be willing to part with.
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