Cohen say I will move the team out of Citifield and play somewhere else for a couple of years. Then the mayor can shove it where it doesn’t shine.
There’s a lease.
Cohen has enough money to bust his horns and fight it out in court. If you don’t let my team into the stadium with me as the owner, I have to break the lease.
Cohen has enough money to bust his horns and fight it out in court. If you don’t let my team into the stadium with me as the owner, I have to break the lease.
Stop being silly. Leaving Citified is completely unfeasible for the Mets. There's no material issue around Cohen's involvement with the team, and the review is almost certainly perfunctory (perhaps being drawn out for effect on the Mayor's part). But if the City really does raise an objection, among Cohen and the Mets' options at that point, threatening to leave is not one of them.
Cohen has enough money to bust his horns and fight it out in court. If you don’t let my team into the stadium with me as the owner, I have to break the lease.
First, he’ll lose and lose big. He didn’t get where he is by making stupid financial moves.
Second, where are they going to play? Coney Island? Move the team out of New York? That should go over well with MLB owners who haven’t approved him yet.
Cohen has enough money to bust his horns and fight it out in court. If you don’t let my team into the stadium with me as the owner, I have to break the lease.
Stop being silly. Leaving Citified is completely unfeasible for the Mets. There's no material issue around Cohen's involvement with the team, and the review is almost certainly perfunctory (perhaps being drawn out for effect on the Mayor's part). But if the City really does raise an objection, among Cohen and the Mets' options at that point, threatening to leave is not one of them.
I know I am being silly and a frustrated Mets fan who wants to have decent ownership. I cannot believe that the mayor would try to block this sale.
It just sucks.
It seems like the Yankees are a total non-factor here and the Red Sox have won 4 WS titles since 2004, I think they're ok with 1986 or at least have some salve for that wound so that the mayor of NYC doesn't need to get revenge.
If the lease binds the Mets to Citifield preventing Cohen from going elsewhere (which I agree is a dumb idea), wouldnt that lease bind NYC to the Mets regardless of who owns the team unless something like a bad credit check would be a problem.
That said, i find it hard to believe that a more successful Mets franchise would be a negative for a City strapped for sales tax revenue
It seems like the Yankees are a total non-factor here and the Red Sox have won 4 WS titles since 2004, I think they're ok with 1986 or at least have some salve for that wound so that the mayor of NYC doesn't need to get revenge.
It seems like the Yankees are a total non-factor here and the Red Sox have won 4 WS titles since 2004, I think they're ok with 1986 or at least have some salve for that wound so that the mayor of NYC doesn't need to get revenge.
chill - its a joke
Sorry, a lot of frustration today.
The mayor of NYC is the biggest dickhead north of Washington.
He's all about money, and there's no way someone like him will allow to go to waste what seems like a legal loophole to extort. He'll use it and get as much as he can.
is if the Lease gives him a say over a proposed sale. I can't believe the Lease would give the Mayor veto power over a proposed owner. It must be a very narrow set of criteria that must be met before the Mayor can take issue. If Cohen passes muster with MLB owners and DOJ, I doubt the Mayor could legitimately challenge the sale.
Cohen seems like a very sharp and detail oriented businessman
How does it affect the lease at all? He just wants the publicity of it.
Agreed. But, he miscalculated how this will be received.
He is a real scum. He ran as a progressive savior who was morally straight. I stead, he has ended up quietly one of the most corrupt and crooked mayors who has done nothing for the common people and nothing to end the 2 NYs, as he promised.
There's no indication this is true. NYC is near bankruptcy and being held hostage by unions.
Yeah the unions handed over 1 billion to the Mayor's wife to aid homeless (which vanished into thin air). The unions forced Amazon to not set up shop in NY losing out on over 20k jobs in Queens. The unions spent millions of taxpayer dollars set up heroin injection sites for drugs addicts. The unions spent almost a billion dollars on the failed Renewal School program too, right? The unions also sent covid into the city to destroy small business'. The unions aren't the problem, the Politicians are
There's no indication this is true. NYC is near bankruptcy and being held hostage by unions.
Yeah the unions handed over 1 billion to the Mayor's wife to aid homeless (which vanished into thin air). The unions forced Amazon to not set up shop in NY losing out on over 20k jobs in Queens. The unions spent millions of taxpayer dollars set up heroin injection sites for drugs addicts. The unions spent almost a billion dollars on the failed Renewal School program too, right? The unions also sent covid into the city to destroy small business'. The unions aren't the problem, the Politicians are
Tommy - No, the unions aren't responsible for every problem. Nobody said they were. But, the unions DID refuse a 1 day furlough across the board, forcing the city to furlough all non union represented employees for 5 days. The UFT did negotiate for teachers to not require a medical exemption in order to not return to school buildings, causing a shortage, forcing the city to then redeploy the same employees that were just furloughed. The UFT then fought the city over a $900M retroactive raise that was the last of 5 and the city can't afford by receiving an additional raise the city won't be able to afford in 2 years and a guarantee of no layoffs through next year. So, some is all unions and some is just the UFT.
Did the city a favor by allowing the city to pay their retroactive pay over a 5 year period rather then pay it when the contract was settled like every other union gets. The city refused to pay money that was supposed to already be put aside. How did they not put thr money they knew was owed aside already, it has been 5 years that they knew this pay was coming. It's the UFTs fault that the city did not give them a raise/settle a contract for what was it, 7 years? Its easy to just say blame the unions but with the way the city runs most things (nycha for example), thank the lord for the unions protecting their employees from the money grubbing politicians
“Prohibited Person” shall mean (i) any Person (A) that is in default or in breach, beyond any applicable grace period, of its obligations under any written agreement with the Agency or the City, or (B) that directly or indirectly controls, is controlled by, or is under common control with a Person that is in default or in breach, beyond any applicable grace period, of its obligations under any written agreement with the Agency or the City, unless such default or breach has been waived in writing by the Agency or the City, as the case may be, and (ii) any Person (A) that has been convicted in a criminal proceeding for a felony or any crime involving moral turpitude or that is an organized crime figure or is reputed to have substantial business or other affiliations with an organized crime figure, or (B) that directly or indirectly controls, is controlled by, or is under common control with a Person that has been convicted in a criminal proceeding for a felony or any crime involving moral turpitude or that is an organized crime figure or is reputed to have substantial business or other affiliations with an organized crime figure.
Did the city a favor by allowing the city to pay their retroactive pay over a 5 year period rather then pay it when the contract was settled like every other union gets. The city refused to pay money that was supposed to already be put aside. How did they not put thr money they knew was owed aside already, it has been 5 years that they knew this pay was coming. It's the UFTs fault that the city did not give them a raise/settle a contract for what was it, 7 years? Its easy to just say blame the unions but with the way the city runs most things (nycha for example), thank the lord for the unions protecting their employees from the money grubbing politicians
Not exactly. This is how they negotiate every deal. If every 5 years there is retro pay, then it's basically current. NYC is shitty for trying to re-neg. But, the UFT was out of line, in my opinion, for taking that as an opportunity to negotiate a new raise and a guarantee of no layoffs, knowing full well this all means layoffs and potentially more furloughs for other employees.
I understand full well a union's first responsibility is to its members. But, I have plenty of friends in the NYC UFT and CSA chapters who are disappointed and disgusted with the way they have operated during these times. Same goes for UFT members from other chapters commenting on NYC. At some point, the greater good is more important.
expected to receive 4 or 5 no votes but likely has the 22 yes votes he needs, now down to de Blasio.
Disgusting and ridiculous that de Blasio may hold the sale in his hands. At the very least, this is a situation that should have been vetted before it got this far. But, based on the language of the deal, it is ridiculous it is even at this point.
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Jeff Wilpon held Zoom call with
@Mets
employees today. One person on call said: `It was definitely a goodbye.' Wilpon talked highs: 2015 World Series; Building CitiField and lows: not winning as much. Call lasted 15-20 mins. Wilpon named people with many years w/ club #sportsbiz
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Hard to imagine a worse owner than the Wilpons, but an insider-trading, racketeering billionaire hedge fund vulture is not great.
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One more note from that. Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
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One more note from that. Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
I really hope Cohen treats the Wilpons specifically the way they treated their minority owners. Maybe send Jeff some business cards that say Mets minority owner on them, book him a date to hang out with Mr Met (though not on a game day since the minority ownership doesn't come with any ticket plan) and provide him with validated parking.
Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
lmao, I'm sure Cohen is really sweatting that. Too bad they'll miss out on Jeffy's prodigious scouting background. Who could ever forget how he predicted greatness from Kaz Matsui.
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One more note from that. Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
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One more note from that. Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
Lease for CitiField.
Then tell him he can go tuck himself.
There’s a lease.
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Cohen say I will move the team out of Citifield and play somewhere else for a couple of years. Then the mayor can shove it where it doesn’t shine.
There’s a lease.
Cohen has enough money to bust his horns and fight it out in court. If you don’t let my team into the stadium with me as the owner, I have to break the lease.
Stop being silly. Leaving Citified is completely unfeasible for the Mets. There's no material issue around Cohen's involvement with the team, and the review is almost certainly perfunctory (perhaps being drawn out for effect on the Mayor's part). But if the City really does raise an objection, among Cohen and the Mets' options at that point, threatening to leave is not one of them.
Cohen has enough money to bust his horns and fight it out in court. If you don’t let my team into the stadium with me as the owner, I have to break the lease.
First, he’ll lose and lose big. He didn’t get where he is by making stupid financial moves.
Second, where are they going to play? Coney Island? Move the team out of New York? That should go over well with MLB owners who haven’t approved him yet.
And I agree, he's looking for a sizable donation to his foundation if he has one or some SJW cause. This seems like a shakedown if true.
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Cohen has enough money to bust his horns and fight it out in court. If you don’t let my team into the stadium with me as the owner, I have to break the lease.
Stop being silly. Leaving Citified is completely unfeasible for the Mets. There's no material issue around Cohen's involvement with the team, and the review is almost certainly perfunctory (perhaps being drawn out for effect on the Mayor's part). But if the City really does raise an objection, among Cohen and the Mets' options at that point, threatening to leave is not one of them.
I know I am being silly and a frustrated Mets fan who wants to have decent ownership. I cannot believe that the mayor would try to block this sale.
It just sucks.
It seems like the Yankees are a total non-factor here and the Red Sox have won 4 WS titles since 2004, I think they're ok with 1986 or at least have some salve for that wound so that the mayor of NYC doesn't need to get revenge.
That said, i find it hard to believe that a more successful Mets franchise would be a negative for a City strapped for sales tax revenue
It seems like the Yankees are a total non-factor here and the Red Sox have won 4 WS titles since 2004, I think they're ok with 1986 or at least have some salve for that wound so that the mayor of NYC doesn't need to get revenge.
chill - its a joke
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the sale sticking it to the Yankees?
It seems like the Yankees are a total non-factor here and the Red Sox have won 4 WS titles since 2004, I think they're ok with 1986 or at least have some salve for that wound so that the mayor of NYC doesn't need to get revenge.
chill - its a joke
Sorry, a lot of frustration today.
I think New York’ll be just fine
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He’s ruining NYC
I think New York’ll be just fine
Then tell him he can go tuck himself.
Verrrryyy Nnniiiicccce!
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A blonde 15 year old reporter who’s really 24. I hear NYC mayors love that.
Then tell him he can go tuck himself.
Verrrryyy Nnniiiicccce!
That said, he embodies just about everything Comrade douchebag hates about America - White, Male, Capitalist, Billionaire.
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He’s ruining NYC
I think New York’ll be just fine
I can’t believe I voted for him. But this is what happens when you party insiders choose the winners
He is a real scum. He ran as a progressive savior who was morally straight. I stead, he has ended up quietly one of the most corrupt and crooked mayors who has done nothing for the common people and nothing to end the 2 NYs, as he promised.
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He’s ruining NYC
I think New York’ll be just fine
There's no indication this is true. NYC is near bankruptcy and being held hostage by unions.
Yeah the unions handed over 1 billion to the Mayor's wife to aid homeless (which vanished into thin air). The unions forced Amazon to not set up shop in NY losing out on over 20k jobs in Queens. The unions spent millions of taxpayer dollars set up heroin injection sites for drugs addicts. The unions spent almost a billion dollars on the failed Renewal School program too, right? The unions also sent covid into the city to destroy small business'. The unions aren't the problem, the Politicians are
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In comment 15022692 eric2425ny said:
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He’s ruining NYC
I think New York’ll be just fine
There's no indication this is true. NYC is near bankruptcy and being held hostage by unions.
Yeah the unions handed over 1 billion to the Mayor's wife to aid homeless (which vanished into thin air). The unions forced Amazon to not set up shop in NY losing out on over 20k jobs in Queens. The unions spent millions of taxpayer dollars set up heroin injection sites for drugs addicts. The unions spent almost a billion dollars on the failed Renewal School program too, right? The unions also sent covid into the city to destroy small business'. The unions aren't the problem, the Politicians are
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I understand full well a union's first responsibility is to its members. But, I have plenty of friends in the NYC UFT and CSA chapters who are disappointed and disgusted with the way they have operated during these times. Same goes for UFT members from other chapters commenting on NYC. At some point, the greater good is more important.
Scott Soshnick
@soshnick
Jeff Wilpon held Zoom call with
@Mets
employees today. One person on call said: `It was definitely a goodbye.' Wilpon talked highs: 2015 World Series; Building CitiField and lows: not winning as much. Call lasted 15-20 mins. Wilpon named people with many years w/ club #sportsbiz
Bill Neidhardt
@BNeidhardt
Hard to imagine a worse owner than the Wilpons, but an insider-trading, racketeering billionaire hedge fund vulture is not great.
But it would be so Mets.... lol
But it would be so Mets.... lol
No, and I've maintained as such. It's going to happen.
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One more note from that. Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
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One more note from that. Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
I really hope Cohen treats the Wilpons specifically the way they treated their minority owners. Maybe send Jeff some business cards that say Mets minority owner on them, book him a date to hang out with Mr Met (though not on a game day since the minority ownership doesn't come with any ticket plan) and provide him with validated parking.
lmao, I'm sure Cohen is really sweatting that. Too bad they'll miss out on Jeffy's prodigious scouting background. Who could ever forget how he predicted greatness from Kaz Matsui.
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One more note from that. Jeff Wilpon will leave the organization when the sale closes. He has told colleagues he doesn’t want to talk to the Cohen group about any kind of involvement with Mets even as family retains limited ownership stake.
What a lame attempt at trying to save face