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GBN Draft Report: 2021 First Round Projection: #3

M.S. : 10/24/2020 10:53 am
October 21, 2020 10:05 PM

Our friends over at the Great Blue Draft Report have generated their 3rd 2021 NFL Mock Draft. Given the state of our poor New York Giants, it's NEVER too early to take a peak.

Right now, GBN has the Giants going #4 with QB Trevor Lawrence (Jets #1) and OT Penei Sewell (L.A. Chargers #2) off the Board by the time we pick. I don't see us picking lower than #2, but ya never know -- maybe we get on a real hot streak and plummet all the way down to #4.

FYI, GBN has OT and DE and the two most frequent positions selected in Round One:

OT 6
DE 5
WR 5
QB 4
CB 3
OLB 2
DT 1
FS 1
G/T 1
LB 1
OG 1
RB 1
TE 1

Alabama and Clemson lead the way with 5 and 4 players respectively:

Alabama 5
Clemson 4
Ohio State 3
LSU 2
North Dakota State 2
Oregon 2
BYU 1
Florida 1
Florida State 1
Miami 1
Michigan 1
Minnesota 1
Penn State 1
Pittsburgh 1
Purdue 1
Stanford 1
Texas 1
Virginia Tech 1
Wake Forest 1
Washington 1

One reminder -- as GBN Notes:

"...the primary objective with a mock at this time of year is not to try and predict which player which particular team will select next April. Rather... to give folks some idea... where individual players would be selected if the draft were held this week."

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I rarely watch college football  
eli4life : 10/24/2020 11:10 am : link
But I was looking down the list and the bengals I see pick the corner from Alabama. I’m assuming he’s the son of the former dolphins and I think chiefs corner Patrick Surtain. If he’s anything like his dad he will be a great pick for them.

First it was guys I watched when I was a kid having kids that come into the league now it’s guys I watched after I was married and my kids were born. It’s amazing how fast time flies
So, Danny boy get kicked to the curb?  
TC : 10/24/2020 11:17 am : link
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I’m not completely sold on Ja’marr Chase  
Vanzetti : 10/24/2020 11:19 am : link
Guys who take a year off—it just seems like sn injury waiting to happen to me

He is very strong but not so sure he will bully NFL DBs the way he does college DBs

To me, he is a guy who has to run close to the 4.40 he has supposedly clocked to be taken at #4. I see him much more as the next Hakeem Nicks rather than the next Julio Jones.

But maybe getting the next Hakeem Nicks would not be so bad
Micah ...  
Brown_Hornet : 10/24/2020 11:20 am : link
...Parsons
RE: I’m not completely sold on Ja’marr Chase  
M.S. : 10/24/2020 11:28 am : link
In comment 15023035 Vanzetti said:
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Guys who take a year off—it just seems like sn injury waiting to happen to me

He is very strong but not so sure he will bully NFL DBs the way he does college DBs

To me, he is a guy who has to run close to the 4.40 he has supposedly clocked to be taken at #4. I see him much more as the next Hakeem Nicks rather than the next Julio Jones.

But maybe getting the next Hakeem Nicks would not be so bad

Funny you mention Hakeem Nicks! That's exactly who I think of when I watch Ja'marr Chase.
RE: Micah ...  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/24/2020 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15023037 Brown_Hornet said:
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...Parsons


Everything I read about this kid... He seems to be exactly the type of person and player Joe Judge and Patrick Graham would want.

And after Lo Carter suffered his torn Achilles, Graham may fill a desperate need at SS OLB, with flexibility to play ILB, WSLB, ER...
RE: Micah ...  
Saquads26 : 10/24/2020 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15023037 Brown_Hornet said:
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...Parsons


Or Ja’Marr Chase
Premier talent  
JB_in_DC : 10/24/2020 12:34 pm : link
at a premium position. Ja'marr Chase would be a good pick. Him, Slayton, and Shepard would be a good group.


It's a real bummer we won't get to watch him or Rousseau this year though.

Maybe an organizational shift in draft philosophy will open up the possibility of a trade-down - but obviously we're a half year away from that.
If a qb needy team picking a few spots behind us  
Payasdaddy : 10/24/2020 12:53 pm : link
Nets us a #2 and we can still get a parsons, chase of surtain, count me in
Would love a stud lb, Micah project as having Er ability too?
If we have the #3 pick and Fields is on the board  
SGMen : 10/24/2020 1:25 pm : link
and teams call we must listen and hope we can draw a haul.
This off-season is about purging ALL the garbage (players, contracts, GM, FO, Scouts) and acquiring great young players (Draft, key UFA signings like with Bradberry, Martinex). We will have cap space despite Covid to re-sign whomever we want from our team and to dump contracts like Solder, Tate, Zeitler and Engram.

In my mind, if we received say a #4 for our #3 plus next year's #1 and a #2 this year, no way we pass on that kind of haul given all of our holes.

We need ER, WR, DB help the most, perhaps.
Add runnng back to the list.  
Giant John : 10/24/2020 4:29 pm : link
Saquon can’t get through a season healthy. That guy is no lunch pail running back.
RE: Add runnng back to the list.  
BigBlueinDE : 10/24/2020 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15023379 Giant John said:
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Saquon can’t get through a season healthy. That guy is no lunch pail running back.


Inclined to agree. He was an elite talent coming out of PSU, but the production on the field has not matched the hype.
RE: Micah ...  
chopperhatch : 10/24/2020 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15023037 Brown_Hornet said:
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...Parsons


I am with this too. But I dont know how high he should be drafted. I dont think he is twitchy like Jaylon Smith. But if he is stout enough to play the run, can cover and also rush the passer, he is my choice as he would make the 2nd level awfully tough to go with the line
Jamar chase is exactly who I want  
Bleedblue10 : 10/24/2020 10:32 pm : link
Gotta be able to score in this league and with Saquon back we need a true wr1 to open up our offense
RE: Jamar chase is exactly who I want  
chopperhatch : 10/24/2020 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15023570 Bleedblue10 said:
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Gotta be able to score in this league and with Saquon back we need a true wr1 to open up our offense


This is quite a deep draft at WR. But taking a size, strength, speed guy high would give us our best look at who Jones is as a QB. I dont see the Julio Jones comparisons as he isnt as big. But Hakeem Nicks I can see. You put a guy like that out there with Slayton and Shephard and Jones is out of excuses.
Micah Parsons or Patrick Surtain  
Bernie : 10/25/2020 10:06 am : link
For me, thanks!
As an FSU fan I can tell you  
BigBlueBuff : 10/25/2020 11:30 am : link
that Marvin Wilson has regressed this year. He flashes, but he doesn't look special, at all. I'd be shocked if he goes in the first TWO rounds at this point.

I say this because I'm not convinced that the due diligence has been paid to these players quite yet and the names we see today will not be there in a few months.
RE: I’m not completely sold on Ja’marr Chase  
beatrixkiddo : 10/25/2020 11:52 am : link
In comment 15023035 Vanzetti said:
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Guys who take a year off—it just seems like sn injury waiting to happen to me

He is very strong but not so sure he will bully NFL DBs the way he does college DBs

To me, he is a guy who has to run close to the 4.40 he has supposedly clocked to be taken at #4. I see him much more as the next Hakeem Nicks rather than the next Julio Jones.

But maybe getting the next Hakeem Nicks would not be so bad


Thats exactly who Chase reminds me of, but he isn't as good a run blocker as Nicks. Runs great routes and very physical and smart player. Agree about the year off should drop his stock a little.
You know what  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/25/2020 12:29 pm : link
I've been beating the drum for a ER in the First Round for three drafts now - each of my preferred choices would have been great

Bradley Chubb in 2018
Josh Allen in 2019
we were a pick late for Chase Young in 2020 but we would have already had Chubb and Allen : )

If the Giants don't go for Parsons in 2021 -- they are chasing fool's gold -- this team isn't going anywhere without an impactful Edge Rusher - that's Giants football

I would sign another vet CB in FA to play opposite Bradberry as opposed to drafting one in the 1rst round this year

Draft a WR and a DT with Round 2 and Round 3

enough of ignoring the Defensive rush - think about it -- when Eli was drafted the Giants had Strahan and Osi on the roster - and then picked up Tuck and JPP

When they picked up Jones they had bupkus at the edge -- and still do

they have Lawrence who I think is great but he's not a rusher -- they are going to give up Tomlinson who is also not a rusher so he needs to be replaced -- and Williams is going to eat the cap

no need to pick a WR in the first round in a WR rich draft -- just don't completely ignore it like we did last year

I knew the Giants were going to pick up Barkley -- and he's a great player -- but let's face it -- the Giants need a Devonta Freeman for power football not Barkley

I'm okay with Jones at QB -- but damn -- Chubb and Allen would have set us up beautifully going into next year ---

given 4 years of dismal football - what would have given you more hope -- having Chubb and Allen on the team or Jones and Barkley? My choice would be Chubb and Allen

RE: You know what  
Angel Eyes : 10/25/2020 12:54 pm : link
In comment 15023869 gidiefor said:
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I've been beating the drum for a ER in the First Round for three drafts now - each of my preferred choices would have been great

Bradley Chubb in 2018
Josh Allen in 2019
we were a pick late for Chase Young in 2020 but we would have already had Chubb and Allen : )

If the Giants don't go for Parsons in 2021 -- they are chasing fool's gold -- this team isn't going anywhere without an impactful Edge Rusher - that's Giants football

I would sign another vet CB in FA to play opposite Bradberry as opposed to drafting one in the 1rst round this year

Draft a WR and a DT with Round 2 and Round 3

enough of ignoring the Defensive rush - think about it -- when Eli was drafted the Giants had Strahan and Osi on the roster - and then picked up Tuck and JPP

When they picked up Jones they had bupkus at the edge -- and still do

they have Lawrence who I think is great but he's not a rusher -- they are going to give up Tomlinson who is also not a rusher so he needs to be replaced -- and Williams is going to eat the cap

no need to pick a WR in the first round in a WR rich draft -- just don't completely ignore it like we did last year

I knew the Giants were going to pick up Barkley -- and he's a great player -- but let's face it -- the Giants need a Devonta Freeman for power football not Barkley

I'm okay with Jones at QB -- but damn -- Chubb and Allen would have set us up beautifully going into next year ---

given 4 years of dismal football - what would have given you more hope -- having Chubb and Allen on the team or Jones and Barkley? My choice would be Chubb and Allen

Me, I just don't understand why Gettleman has ignored the edge rush for three drafts now. What's really galling is that he's been around the Giants long enough to know how well we do with one and how badly without one, yet ignores it.
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