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If we do decide Jones isn’t the solution, Fields should be given a long look if we have a top five pick (but not the first).
I’ve been back and forth on him. Finally had a chance to be a starter last year after transferring from Georgia. Put up outstanding numbers. Just not sure about his overall passing qualities. But the physical attributes are certainly there...
Haskins had the numbers too (one season of it). They run a system and have mostly faced weaker competition so they'd feast.
Also not sold on Lance. He's more of a runner so you'd have to scheme around him.
I'd watch the Buckeye CB Shaun Wade. Gotta think he goes high in the draft.
I'd watch the Buckeye CB Shaun Wade. Gotta think he goes high in the draft.
FWIW, Wade's thought of as more of a slot guy. That's where his primary experience is.
He is. He's more athletic than Haskins and is as good, if not better, of a passer.
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and usually out-talent teams by a huge margin. But I think Fields is a much better prospect and athlete than one-hit-wonder Haskins.
He is. He's more athletic than Haskins and is as good, if not better, of a passer.
People forget - not you, I know you are pretty up to speed - that Fields was a top prospect in 2018 out of high school. ESPN had him ranked #1 over Lawrence. So there is class there...
Maybe...but as you know, QBs got over-rated every year by draft slot because of demand.
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and usually out-talent teams by a huge margin. But I think Fields is a much better prospect and athlete than one-hit-wonder Haskins.
He is. He's more athletic than Haskins and is as good, if not better, of a passer.
People forget - not you, I know you are pretty up to speed - that Fields was a top prospect in 2018 out of high school. ESPN had him ranked #1 over Lawrence. So there is class there...
Yep. It was Lawrence vs. Fields in the State of Georgia. Their rivalry goes back a long way. Fields actually beat Lawrence in Trent Dilfer's QB camp and won MVP.
I respectfully disagree. If Fields can remain healthy, I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up as a franchise QB. He's a better prospect than many recent ones like Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield, Murray, DJ, Lock, etc. If not for Lawrence, I would wager that Fields would be the overwhelming favorite to be the #1 overall pick (him or Sewell).
So do most of these QBs. Trevor Lawrence plays for Clemson. Granted he doesn't have Justyn Ross this year, but he has a ton of talent around him. Kyler and Baker Mayfield had Hollywood Brown and Mark Andrews. They were protected by arguably the best O-Line in the country.
Let's be honest, every interesting QB from a top program will have that luxury. Recent case in point: Joe Burrow. That LSU was stacked...
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Fields has a ton of help around him.
Let's be honest, every interesting QB from a top program will have that luxury. Recent case in point: Joe Burrow. That LSU was stacked...
What has Burrow done in NFL to use him as a successful case study?
I am looking forward to watching Bateman tonight
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Fields has a ton of help around him.
Let's be honest, every interesting QB from a top program will have that luxury. Recent case in point: Joe Burrow. That LSU was stacked...
I mean LSU has always had talent but Burrow made that team go. They can't score this year even though Chase is there. With OSU and Fields, yes they have talent and Ryan Day's scheme. Seeing Fields hit wide open guys won't tell us anything. We need to see the tough throws when the game is on the line into tight windows. Everything in the nfl has tight windows,
For the record RU is up 14-0, man MSU must suck
I was a sucker for Rosen's mechanics and throwing skills. But I was concerned about the concussions and some issues with the shoulder.
Fields is a much, much better athlete than Rosen. And he fits the mold of the modern day QB. So I don't really see the comp...
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Fields has a ton of help around him.
Let's be honest, every interesting QB from a top program will have that luxury. Recent case in point: Joe Burrow. That LSU was stacked...
I mean LSU has always had talent but Burrow made that team go. They can't score this year even though Chase is there. With OSU and Fields, yes they have talent and Ryan Day's scheme. Seeing Fields hit wide open guys won't tell us anything. We need to see the tough throws when the game is on the line into tight windows. Everything in the nfl has tight windows,
Chase isn't playing this season
For the record RU is up 14-0, man MSU must suck
Rutgers is taking it to the Spartans. That RB Pacheco looks pretty good
Meanwhile look out for Wisconsin, the RS FR Mertz played yesterday, threw 5 TDs. Lots of potential there.
I mean LSU has always had talent but Burrow made that team go. They can't score this year even though Chase is there. With OSU and Fields, yes they have talent and Ryan Day's scheme. Seeing Fields hit wide open guys won't tell us anything. [b]We need to see the tough throws when the game is on the line into tight windows. Everything in the nfl has tight windows,/b]
Totally agree with the bold.
Yes, Burrow as the triggerman but that team was loaded everywhere - OL, WRs, TE, RBs...Just a dream team, really...
Oh, God yeah. I was raving about Howell last year as a freshman. He caught my eye early and I was all over his bandwagon. ;)
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I get it. I follow the high school recruiting game very closely - have a friend in the business - so I am typically well aware of the hype. Like Ugalelei (no idea how to spell his name) could be the "next Lawrence" for Clemson. Kid has a lot of physical attributes...
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Nice pass, but you have to admit there was no DL player within 5 yards of him and the WR had about 3 steps. This is the issue with evaluating him
Total strike...and it was a laser.
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Nice pass, but you have to admit there was no DL player within 5 yards of him and the WR had about 3 steps. This is the issue with evaluating him
I mean he had more time on that throw than Jones had added together from all his plays on Thurs night
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Nice pass, but you have to admit there was no DL player within 5 yards of him and the WR had about 3 steps. This is the issue with evaluating him
Look at this angle. Yes, he had a clean pocket, but he released the ball just as the WR was coming out of his break. Excellent anticipation.
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Not a fan, though, when he starts peaking at the rush and stops going through his reads...
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Nice pass, but you have to admit there was no DL player within 5 yards of him and the WR had about 3 steps. This is the issue with evaluating him
I mean he had more time on that throw than Jones had added together from all his plays on Thurs night
Yes
He’s very smooth as a passer.
I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Fields or even Trey Lance if the Giants loved either one but I think it's wiser to focus on other positions like ER, WR, CB, etc.
Fields threw the ball just as the WR was coming out of his break. It was excellent ball placement.
I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Fields or even Trey Lance if the Giants loved either one but I think it's wiser to focus on other positions like ER, WR, CB, etc.
For sure, but if you have the chance to take Lawrence or Fields, who are simply better QB prospects than Jones is and was, you seize the opportunity.
I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Fields or even Trey Lance if the Giants loved either one but I think it's wiser to focus on other positions like ER, WR, CB, etc.
IMO Trey Lance is a project. Personally I wouldn't touch him in the top rounds