was no way to know in 2019 whether the Giants could or would have drafted Herbert in 2020. We obviously didn't know what our draft position would be in 2020, and Herbert could have been hurt or had a lousy season in 2019. That doesn't mean we should have drafted Jones at #6. (I wanted to trade #37 for Rosen.) But it does mean that the reasons for not doing so can't include wanting to wait to draft Herbert in 2020.
Remember also that the Giants preferred Herbert to Jones. The irony is that Herbert might not have been available at #6 if he had entered the 2019 draft.
Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
I’m happy to see Brady prove he can do it without Bill. It’s ridiculous how many times over the years I’ve read on this site that Bill made Brady. Brady carried some extremely weak offensive casts for years, now he’s killing it with that talented group in Tampa. 43 years old and throwing absolute dimes today. Bucs look very good, if Brown is still Brown then that offense will be scary.
was no way to know in 2019 whether the Giants could or would have drafted Herbert in 2020. We obviously didn't know what our draft position would be in 2020, and Herbert could have been hurt or had a lousy season in 2019. That doesn't mean we should have drafted Jones at #6. (I wanted to trade #37 for Rosen.) But it does mean that the reasons for not doing so can't include wanting to wait to draft Herbert in 2020.
Remember also that the Giants preferred Herbert to Jones. The irony is that Herbert might not have been available at #6 if he had entered the 2019 draft.
Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
Herbert is more talented at this stage than Jones. He's more accurate, has better awareness, plays with great rhythm , and he is physically imposing.
I’m happy to see Brady prove he can do it without Bill. It’s ridiculous how many times over the years I’ve read on this site that Bill made Brady. Brady carried some extremely weak offensive casts for years, now he’s killing it with that talented group in Tampa. 43 years old and throwing absolute dimes today. Bucs look very good, if Brown is still Brown then that offense will be scary.
Come on man. Brady joined a team with likely the best defense in the NFL and weapons all over the place on offense. Oh and just in case that’s not enough, let’s add Antonio Brown!
I’m sure Bill would do ok with THAT team, no? Brady picked the best possible destination, and rightfully so, but which team did you think would be better this season? Brady has a damn Pro Bowl roster.
I’m happy to see Brady prove he can do it without Bill. It’s ridiculous how many times over the years I’ve read on this site that Bill made Brady. Brady carried some extremely weak offensive casts for years, now he’s killing it with that talented group in Tampa. 43 years old and throwing absolute dimes today. Bucs look very good, if Brown is still Brown then that offense will be scary.
Come on man. Brady joined a team with likely the best defense in the NFL and weapons all over the place on offense. Oh and just in case that’s not enough, let’s add Antonio Brown!
I’m sure Bill would do ok with THAT team, no? Brady picked the best possible destination, and rightfully so, but which team did you think would be better this season? Brady has a damn Pro Bowl roster.
Not to mention, how many Pats opted out before this season again? They are playwright a bunch of backups
Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
And Herbert is a lot more talented than Jones.
Then he probably should’ve won his first start a lot sooner and beaten a good team too. Rookie QBs beating bad teams doesn’t mean anything... so I’ve been told.
But the amount of credit Brady received with the Pats has generally been less than he deserves on this site. Bill is the best coach ever but people made it seem like Brady was replaceable and Bill was by far the main reason for their success. I’ve just always found that to be bullshit since so much their success had to do with Brady carrying untalented offensive units over the years. Just glad to see Brady do well on his own.
Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
And Herbert is a lot more talented than Jones.
Then he probably should’ve won his first start a lot sooner and beaten a good team too. Rookie QBs beating bad teams doesn’t mean anything... so I’ve been told.
He isn’t a FG kicker. They had New Orleans beat until the kicker choked.
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I'm just sick of people saying covid is the reason why this team is a war crime on offense and Jones looks lost because of 'no offseason'.
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Completely mismanaged the rebuild. This roster should be much further along.
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that would be nice
Remember also that the Giants preferred Herbert to Jones. The irony is that Herbert might not have been available at #6 if he had entered the 2019 draft.
Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
Too much to ask when the Chiefs are in the division and the Raiders are doing well. Right now though that draft pick is vindicated.
Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
And Herbert is a lot more talented than Jones.
Remember also that the Giants preferred Herbert to Jones. The irony is that Herbert might not have been available at #6 if he had entered the 2019 draft.
Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
Herbert is more talented at this stage than Jones. He's more accurate, has better awareness, plays with great rhythm , and he is physically imposing.
Come on man. Brady joined a team with likely the best defense in the NFL and weapons all over the place on offense. Oh and just in case that’s not enough, let’s add Antonio Brown!
I’m sure Bill would do ok with THAT team, no? Brady picked the best possible destination, and rightfully so, but which team did you think would be better this season? Brady has a damn Pro Bowl roster.
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I’m happy to see Brady prove he can do it without Bill. It’s ridiculous how many times over the years I’ve read on this site that Bill made Brady. Brady carried some extremely weak offensive casts for years, now he’s killing it with that talented group in Tampa. 43 years old and throwing absolute dimes today. Bucs look very good, if Brown is still Brown then that offense will be scary.
Come on man. Brady joined a team with likely the best defense in the NFL and weapons all over the place on offense. Oh and just in case that’s not enough, let’s add Antonio Brown!
I’m sure Bill would do ok with THAT team, no? Brady picked the best possible destination, and rightfully so, but which team did you think would be better this season? Brady has a damn Pro Bowl roster.
Not to mention, how many Pats opted out before this season again? They are playwright a bunch of backups
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Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
And Herbert is a lot more talented than Jones.
Then he probably should’ve won his first start a lot sooner and beaten a good team too. Rookie QBs beating bad teams doesn’t mean anything... so I’ve been told.
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Herbert is also playing with a lot more talent than Jones.
And Herbert is a lot more talented than Jones.
Then he probably should’ve won his first start a lot sooner and beaten a good team too. Rookie QBs beating bad teams doesn’t mean anything... so I’ve been told.
He isn’t a FG kicker. They had New Orleans beat until the kicker choked.
They don’t? Nowhere near the best defense? Nowhere near? What the hell have you been watching?
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