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How did we lose to Dallas?

Walnut : 10/25/2020 4:06 pm
My god, they are awful
Giants  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/25/2020 4:13 pm : link
fans are STILL living in denial.

It's unbelievable.
Because the Giants have the worst roster in the NFC  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2020 4:13 pm : link
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Ryan  
section125 : 10/25/2020 4:14 pm : link
Lewis....as example of a bad roster. Yes
Typical Giants that the  
St. Jimmy : 10/25/2020 4:14 pm : link
Cowboys went in the shitter right after they played them. Rally after Dak gets hurt and then come apart at the seams.
Because  
GF1080 : 10/25/2020 4:15 pm : link
the Giants are awful as well?
It depresses me  
Ben in Tampa : 10/25/2020 4:18 pm : link
If the Giants had even slightly better talent than they have, they’d probably be .500 and in first place. The roster is so so bad though.
Because the Giants have absolutely horrible players at key positions  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/25/2020 4:21 pm : link
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...  
Mdgiantsfan : 10/25/2020 4:22 pm : link
And WTF fans are saying how did we lose to the Giants 😂
RE: ...  
FStubbs : 10/25/2020 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15024179 Mdgiantsfan said:
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And WTF fans are saying how did we lose to the Giants 😂


They only lost to us the last time because of Riverboat Ron.
Dallas isn't winning another game...  
bw in dc : 10/25/2020 4:23 pm : link
If they are smart, they sell off at the deadline.

Starting with Zeke.
The better question is, how do we always beat WAS?  
Sean : 10/25/2020 4:24 pm : link
They beat Philly & Dallas.
RE: The better question is, how do we always beat WAS?  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2020 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15024183 Sean said:
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They beat Philly & Dallas.


Same thing happened in the late '80s-early '90s. Giants always beat the Skins, Skins always beat the Eagles, Eagles always beat the Giants.
RE: Giants  
mphbullet36 : 10/25/2020 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15024160 Eric from BBI said:
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fans are STILL living in denial.

It's unbelievable.


seriously for as bad as Dallas is they still have more talent then us. It's pretty simple how we lost. Now we just need to lose to Washington to finally end this maybe we can division lunicy by some fans.
Dak still had 2 legs for the majority of the game  
Eric on Li : 10/25/2020 4:26 pm : link
that helped.
RE: Typical Giants that the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/25/2020 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15024167 St. Jimmy said:
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Cowboys went in the shitter right after they played them. Rally after Dak gets hurt and then come apart at the seams.


What's your excuse going to be when Dallas sweeps us?
several bad teams in the league  
bc4life : 10/25/2020 4:31 pm : link
Washington and Giants are among them
RE: Dallas isn't winning another game...  
chopperhatch : 10/25/2020 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15024181 bw in dc said:
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If they are smart, they sell off at the deadline.

Starting with Zeke.


Thats a beefy contract. Who takes him? Seattle? Buffalo? Dont know if I can think of others.
2 Positions  
Samiam : 10/25/2020 4:33 pm : link
Either Baker or Beal instead of Ryan Lewis. Or if they sign Cockrell. Also, if McKinney doesn’t get hurt. The defense is not that bad except for a sieve at 1 or 2 positions (which makes the defense that bad).
As if Baker and Beal are any good  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2020 4:35 pm : link
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Trading Elliott would result in an approx $15mm dead cap hit  
cosmicj : 10/25/2020 4:36 pm : link
It looks like the Cowboys could absorb it. That would be a gutsy move, as he is only 25.
Easy. Whenever a game is tight late,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/25/2020 4:37 pm : link
opponents go to their trusty collection of “Throw to whoever isn’t covered by James Bradberry” plays.
I seem to recall  
dlauster : 10/25/2020 4:40 pm : link
A certain fumble being returned for a touchdown....
Two TDs called back by  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/25/2020 4:42 pm : link
Giants' penalties?
If reality hasn't hit by now...  
BamaBlue : 10/25/2020 4:46 pm : link
it never will. The Giants are bottom feeders, terrible, crappy. Good teams lose games, but bad teams give them away.
The Giants would have a better record if.......  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/25/2020 4:48 pm : link
Daniel Jones had some players who could actually catch the ball! I am sick of watching that bum Evan Engram drop the ball or let it go through his hands. He sucks!
The Giants should have won against Chicago,L.A. Rams,Dallass, and the fucking Eagles.
Because  
noro9 : 10/25/2020 4:54 pm : link
We suck
RE: RE: Dallas isn't winning another game...  
bw in dc : 10/25/2020 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15024191 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 15024181 bw in dc said:


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If they are smart, they sell off at the deadline.

Starting with Zeke.



Thats a beefy contract. Who takes him? Seattle? Buffalo? Dont know if I can think of others.


Good question. Maybe Indy. Maybe Miami.
They scored more points  
jeff57 : 10/25/2020 4:56 pm : link
?
Dallas/Philly same reason  
Bruner4329 : 10/25/2020 5:02 pm : link
We lost to Dallas for the same reason we lost to Philly. Our defense for years has proven unable to stop anyone at the end of games. Heck they didn't stop Washington either as they gave up a late TD. Sure they stopped 2 point conversion but still gave up a TD late.
RE: RE: Giants  
joeinpa : 10/25/2020 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15024186 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 15024160 Eric from BBI said:


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fans are STILL living in denial.

It's unbelievable.



seriously for as bad as Dallas is they still have more talent then us. It's pretty simple how we lost. Now we just need to lose to Washington to finally end this maybe we can division lunicy by some fans.


Why does the rooting interest of other fans annoy you?

It s football, it s entertainment; for fun. What skin is it off your nose If being close to the division lead at 1-6 makes it more interesting for some fans.

No one is making the case the Giants are any Kind of good.

Really you root the way you want to, let them do it their way. Really none of your concern.

No one is making the case
Because we failed to  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 10/25/2020 5:07 pm : link
clean a couple of things up!
Because they  
cjac : 10/25/2020 5:18 pm : link
Are a better football team
Dallas has FOUR skill position players better than us...  
islander1 : 10/25/2020 6:12 pm : link
it's comical just how bad they are.

Even with their line, they shouldn't be THIS bad.
I think the Giants are going to have a hard time beating Washington  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/25/2020 6:18 pm : link
again or the Cowboys for that matter -- Cincinnati the only other winnable game is a toss up in my opinion

It is a very strong possibility that the Giants will go winless the rest of the season -- I just don't think the Giants have the horses
Burrow posted 409 yards and 3TDs today.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/25/2020 6:20 pm : link
"Covid offseason"
So Dallas beats us, then we beat WFT and WFT creams Dallas.  
Ira : 10/25/2020 6:48 pm : link
Things like this happen in football every now and then and some people feel they have an explanation. Not really.
Dallas has a lot of issues  
joe48 : 10/25/2020 6:49 pm : link
Jerry Jones meddling as GM .Stephen Jones gave big contracts to Cooper,Smith, Lawrence and Zeke. They have big holes in their defense and have to figure out whether to pay Dak. Dak cannot carry the team. He needs good pieces around him. Culture has always been an issue. McCarthy was carried by Rodgers.
We could easily be 3-0 in the NFC East right now  
PatersonPlank : 10/25/2020 7:17 pm : link
Of course we can beat all these teams
RE: Burrow posted 409 yards and 3TDs today.  
bw in dc : 10/25/2020 7:22 pm : link
In comment 15024325 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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"Covid offseason"


If Tua is good, this has the early signs of a great QB class.

Because we suck more?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/25/2020 7:24 pm : link
Just spitballing here.
RE: Because the Giants have the worst roster in the NFC  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 10/25/2020 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15024161 Greg from LI said:
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Actually the jests roster is probably worse. The only good thing you can say about them is Evan Engram is not on their roster.
Team matchups are weird.  
Giant John : 10/25/2020 8:05 pm : link
But the Giants do suck.
I believe  
Giant John : 10/25/2020 8:07 pm : link
The Bengals will kick the Giants ass. 37-17.
RE: RE: Because the Giants have the worst roster in the NFC  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2020 9:02 pm : link
In comment 15024397 jeffusedtobeonwebtv said:
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Actually the jests roster is probably worse. The only good thing you can say about them is Evan Engram is not on their roster.


I said the NFC
RE: We could easily be 3-0 in the NFC East right now  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/25/2020 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15024386 PatersonPlank said:
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Of course we can beat all these teams


How do you figure -- the Cowboys have horses on Offense - and we don't have a backfield -- -- no real horses on offense on the Giants -- keeping our defense on the field for too long all game

The Eagles have a QB and horses on Offense -- same problem

Washington has a good defense - with real pass rushers and a weak offense -- but the Giants still don't have an offense - with no pass rushers on defense

You think the Giants can beat these guys - with what -- too many holes - and not enough horses -- no one on the Giants offense scares anybody -- we have a very good ILB - a bunch of no names at OLB - no safeties - 1 CB and a good rotation of DTs
RE: RE: Typical Giants that the  
St. Jimmy : 10/25/2020 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15024189 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15024167 St. Jimmy said:


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Cowboys went in the shitter right after they played them. Rally after Dak gets hurt and then come apart at the seams.



What's your excuse going to be when Dallas sweeps us?
Giants don't need excuses. They are what they are. Dallas looks like the 2003 Giants the last two games.
RE: RE: Dallas isn't winning another game...  
section125 : 10/25/2020 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15024191 chopperhatch said:
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If they are smart, they sell off at the deadline.

Starting with Zeke.



Thats a beefy contract. Who takes him? Seattle? Buffalo? Dont know if I can think of others. [/quote

What contract? He's on a Franchise Tag. He is a FA after the season.
Giants  
JonC : 10/25/2020 10:36 pm : link
are going to remain in the mix for worst team in the NFL. The kicker is so will Dallas ... wouldn't it suck if they got #1 overall.
Because history has a way of repeating itself  
Sec 103 : 10/26/2020 8:23 am : link
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RE: Giants  
Harvest Blend : 10/26/2020 9:33 am : link
In comment 15024160 Eric from BBI said:
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fans are STILL living in denial.

It's unbelievable.


Sort of amazing, isn't it?
RE: RE: Giants  
Now Mike in MD : 10/26/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 15024876 Harvest Blend said:
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In comment 15024160 Eric from BBI said:


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fans are STILL living in denial.

It's unbelievable.



Sort of amazing, isn't it?


I'm not in denial. The thing that kills me is that since the Giants game, Dalton was absolutely awful. Can't hit even the most basic throws. But he comes into the Giants game and drops 2 absolute dimes on us. Since then, can't complete a 5 yard pass.
RE: RE: RE: Giants  
BamaBlue : 10/26/2020 9:59 am : link
In comment 15024882 Now Mike in MD said:
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In comment 15024876 Harvest Blend said:

I'm not in denial. The thing that kills me is that since the Giants game, Dalton was absolutely awful. Can't hit even the most basic throws. But he comes into the Giants game and drops 2 absolute dimes on us. Since then, can't complete a 5 yard pass.


That's what a pass rush will accomplish... without one, the Giants are an old hen ripe for plucking...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Giants  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/26/2020 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15024902 BamaBlue said:
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In comment 15024882 Now Mike in MD said:


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In comment 15024876 Harvest Blend said:

I'm not in denial. The thing that kills me is that since the Giants game, Dalton was absolutely awful. Can't hit even the most basic throws. But he comes into the Giants game and drops 2 absolute dimes on us. Since then, can't complete a 5 yard pass.



That's what a pass rush will accomplish... without one, the Giants are an old hen ripe for plucking...


Exactamundo !
RE: Giants  
Thegratefulhead : 10/26/2020 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15024592 JonC said:
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are going to remain in the mix for worst team in the NFL. The kicker is so will Dallas ... wouldn't it suck if they got #1 overall.
The Jets will not win a game.
RE: Burrow posted 409 yards and 3TDs today.  
Eric on Li : 10/26/2020 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15024325 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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"Covid offseason"


Recent evidence sort of suggests the 2nd year may be more of a potential pitfall for QB's than their rookie years for whatever reason. Mayfield, Jones, and Lock each came off the bench on fire year one and appeared to regress in year 2.

Not saying that's predictive of how Herbter or Burrow (or Tua) will end up going forward just that we were very similarly excited about our guy throwing for 350 and 5 tds last year.
RE: RE: Because the Giants have the worst roster in the NFC  
uther99 : 10/26/2020 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15024397 jeffusedtobeonwebtv said:
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Actually the jests roster is probably worse. The only good thing you can say about them is Evan Engram is not on their roster.


Don't know if that was intentional, but "jests" is funny
RE: I think the Giants are going to have a hard time beating Washington  
SGMen : 10/26/2020 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15024324 gidiefor said:
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again or the Cowboys for that matter -- Cincinnati the only other winnable game is a toss up in my opinion

It is a very strong possibility that the Giants will go winless the rest of the season -- I just don't think the Giants have the horses
I'm in agreement. We may finish 2-14 or 3-13, a Top 4 pick for sure. I don't see the Jets winning a game so they get T. Lawrence.

Reality is we just don't have the horses. I just want to see less "mistakes" from Jones who is forced to throw within 2.6 seconds according to stats I saw posted, 2nd worst in the league. I think D. Jones is a solid QB though, but he needs some help.
i will die on this hill but  
Platos : 10/26/2020 6:04 pm : link
the refs hosed us good.

the "pick"? horseshit

the illegal shift? if that was against us the refs would've pulled the holder's pants down and started blowing him in front of everyone after marking 6 on the board.

also the no call on the hold at the end of the game...

really our offenses inability to sustain drives and keep our D fresh doesn't help but thats just 3 things that contributed. they owe us a TD.
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