that would ever happen. Sure, the Jets stink now but New York offers more marketing opportunities than anywhere else outside of LA. He could be the next Joe Namath.
if he really didn't want to go the Jets. That said, I don't know why he wouldn't. If he could lead the Jets into becoming contenders, he would be a king.
I think P. Manning did that when the Jets had the first overall pick in '97...he went back to Knoxville. I don't know if that was because the Jets had the #1 pick or he just wanted another year at Tennessee however.
Jets have won games over the years, made the playoffs with a few different coaches, played in two AFC title games - they haven't been quite the hopeless franchise they're made out to be. Lawrence and Becton could be two building blocks at premium positions, plus a ton of cap space, a surplus of draft picks and a new coach. The Pats dynasty is over too, so the division is up for grabs every year. They could sell him on that if they need to.
the exact same thing recently. He SHOULD decline to play for Jets. That's 4 years in purgatory. I wouldn't worry too much about how classy I'd look - that's too much and everybody gets it.
Hey, if/when Lawrence goes to Jets, what becomes of Darnold?
& used it. And can you blame either Elway or Eli? Both teams that took them (Colts & Chargers) were complete laughingstocks at the time & horribly managed.
& used it. And can you blame either Elway or Eli? Both teams that took them (Colts & Chargers) were complete laughingstocks at the time & horribly managed.
Agreed. And incidentally, neither of those franchises even stayed in the same city during the respective QB's careers. The Colts left the next year. That is how much disarray those franchises were in at the time.
The Jets are famous for sucking. This is not a one bad year thing. He could certainly request they trade pick. He will go number one and get paid either way. Darnold has very little value with only one yr remaining on his rookie deal and with his horrible play. Jets will be lucky to get a three for him and will have to pick QB in draft.
Still spouting that nonsense to suggest the NFL is fixed, eh?
If you think the NFL is going to arrange it so that Lawrence ends up in Atlanta because it "makes too much sense", then you're suggesting the NFL is going to fix games to ensure that ATL ends up with the top pick. There's no other way to interpret it.
So if you think the NFL fixes games, why do you even watch? (Serious question.)
Trevor Lawrence can look at the Jets and what they have done with Darnold. They've failed to develop him or equip him with the tools around him to be a success.
Having said that, I don't agree that there is hardly a market for Darnold. You could put him in a ready-to-go offense like the Colts and he would be fine. He promises to be more than just a back-up quarterback. I could see him being a fit in any of Denver, Minnesota, Chicago, New England, Washington. They could even groom him as a successor in Pittsburgh to Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh aren't ever going to get a high draft pick, so imagine they could get Darnold on the cheap if the Jets trade him.
this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
I didn't like it when Elway and Eli did it. I prefer a player get in the league through the process, whether you like the draft or not, and earn your stripes; and when it's time to hit free agency then go where you want...
I think guys should have every right to choose their spot, especially
this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
I didn't like it when Elway and Eli did it. I prefer a player get in the league through the process, whether you like the draft or not, and earn your stripes; and when it's time to hit free agency then go where you want...
The problem with that is, if an overall #1 QB ends up in the wrong organization it could ruin his career.
A player has to look out for himself and his family. Elway, Eli and others simply used levarge to get a better outcome. The Colts and later the Chargers could have chosen to exercise THEIR leverage and called the player's bluff. They chose to trade them instead.
I get it. So why have the draft? In essence, you want every college player who is NFL eligible to be true free agents and sign wherever they can negotiate the best deal. Because you can't just allow QBs to have this luxury...
I'm not opposed to something like this. I also don't like like having a cap system. Teams should be able to spend whatever they can afford and want to risk.
But the league wants competitive balance. And there are rules and processes in place to try to achieve that. So those should be adhered to until changed.
this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
Taking off my big blue blinders... yes.
I don't agree with your assessment as I think draft-eligible players should be allowed to use whatever leverage is at their disposal.
Having said that, I actually applaud your objective, non-biased opinion regarding a Giants' player. That's a rare attribute for a BBIers.
Basing Eli around here is stock and trade. What I don't get is why the same courtesy ins't extended to Jones? Go back and watch Eli in last year's Dolphins game. Same supposedly crappy O line and "supporting cast". He had more time to throw and it had nothing to do with Saquon. It had to do with him. A Qb that can open up the field and throw 30 + yard passes multiple times a game. Jones makes one good throw a year to Tate for a TD and you'd think it was the second coming round here.
Football fans (and sports fans) have seen for decades that where a player ends up has a big impact on how their career turns out. Perhaps no situation is this more true than for a quarterback. Most players don't have leverage because they are seniors, there aren't international leagues, or they play positions with higher risk of injury. So they are forced to go where they are drafted.
The NFL instituted a rule that players have to wait 3 years before entering the NFL because they don't want to pay for the extra player development required. The NFL had a rule that effectively said, "last year, Trevor Lawrence wasn't ready for the NFL." Now the NFL is going to get up in arms if a players decides on his terms that a specific franchise in the NFL isn't properly prepared or functional enough for him?
On top of that, Lawrence would be taking a risk to do this. He is passing up on a year of professional earnings on the back end, delaying free agency, he could get injured at Clemson and drop in the draft like Tua, he could have a "down" year and (like Justin Herbert) go from the top pick, to the third QB taken in the draft.
Not sure I would look at it that black and white....but I also not naive enough to think....things are all happenstance.
But with that, Atlanta is currently drafting 2nd....certainly within reach to end up one....or near enough to make a deal.
Lawrence would be valued higher to Atlanta...than the Jets, imo.
So I can see things like getting worked out.
At the end of the day....the NFL is a business.....BIG entertainment business.
I love it when posters suggest that fans are naïve because just because they do NOT think that NFL games are fixed. It’s funny though that they never offer any proof of their conspiracy theory, other than some sort of “follow the money” B.S.
Sure the NFL is entertainment, but it's not the WWE.
In order to arrange it so that ATL gets the overall #1, they would have to conspire to do so. They would have to pay off multiple refs, and/or players and coaches to make it happen. These refs, players and coaches would be risking their careers by taking money. And the NFL would be risking their billion-dollar reputation and to what end? So that Lawrence can play in the country’s 37th largest city instead of the media capital of the world, NYC with the Jets or Giants????
Absolutely absurd!
You’re still suggesting the NFL will fix games to ensure that ATL gets Lawrence and of course you never answered my question...
If you think the NFL fixes games, why do you watch?
And just as an aside, whichever team ends up with the #1 overall pick, especially the Jets, they are not going to trade Lawrence, regardless of what is offered. There’s a big difference between trading the best QB in a given year and trading the rights to a potentially special player like Lawrence.
Then again I don't think Mr. Manning didn't want Eli going to the Chargers because NY is such a big media market. They had a t the time a better team and a better front office that was going to be winning games. Where as the Chargers were going to end up playing in an Los Angeles soccer stadium 16 years later after not winning anything.
Point being why the hell would he want to go to the Giants anyway?
Not sure I would look at it that black and white....but I also not naive enough to think....things are all happenstance.
But with that, Atlanta is currently drafting 2nd....certainly within reach to end up one....or near enough to make a deal.
Lawrence would be valued higher to Atlanta...than the Jets, imo.
So I can see things like getting worked out.
At the end of the day....the NFL is a business.....BIG entertainment business.
I love it when posters suggest that fans are naïve because just because they do NOT think that NFL games are fixed. It’s funny though that they never offer any proof of their conspiracy theory, other than some sort of “follow the money” B.S.
Sure the NFL is entertainment, but it's not the WWE.
In order to arrange it so that ATL gets the overall #1, they would have to conspire to do so. They would have to pay off multiple refs, and/or players and coaches to make it happen. These refs, players and coaches would be risking their careers by taking money. And the NFL would be risking their billion-dollar reputation and to what end? So that Lawrence can play in the country’s 37th largest city instead of the media capital of the world, NYC with the Jets or Giants????
Absolutely absurd!
You’re still suggesting the NFL will fix games to ensure that ATL gets Lawrence and of course you never answered my question...
If you think the NFL fixes games, why do you watch?
And just as an aside, whichever team ends up with the #1 overall pick, especially the Jets, they are not going to trade Lawrence, regardless of what is offered. There’s a big difference between trading the best QB in a given year and trading the rights to a potentially special player like Lawrence.
I mean that is true. back then you knew you were getting either Big ben, Rivers or Eli if you were picking high and looking for a QB. All were pretty much equally good.
IIRC Peyton chose to return to college rather than play for the Jets.
Eli's situation was different. The Chargers were in an organizational war between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith. And Schottenheimer made it known to Eli's camp that Smith and the front office preferred Rivers. Eli's reaction was "well, if they prefer Rivers, I'd rather play somewhere else". Smith leaked it to the media and that's where things spiraled until Eli ended up in New York.
IIRC Peyton chose to return to college rather than play for the Jets.
Eli's situation was different. The Chargers were in an organizational war between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith. And Schottenheimer made it known to Eli's camp that Smith and the front office preferred Rivers. Eli's reaction was "well, if they prefer Rivers, I'd rather play somewhere else". Smith leaked it to the media and that's where things spiraled until Eli ended up in New York.
That's a rumor on Peyton, but he's never mentioned it. I think he wanted to win the Heisman and win a NC for Rocky Top. And he didn't run away from the Colts when they drafted him. They were a complete mess with Irsay as their crazy owner. Peyton so embraced the challenge of going to the Colts that he told Polian that if he didn't draft him he looked forward to kicking his ass every time he had a chance to play them...
If AJ Smith preferred Rivers, why didn't he just draft him with the #1 pick?
IIRC Peyton chose to return to college rather than play for the Jets.
Eli's situation was different. The Chargers were in an organizational war between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith. And Schottenheimer made it known to Eli's camp that Smith and the front office preferred Rivers. Eli's reaction was "well, if they prefer Rivers, I'd rather play somewhere else". Smith leaked it to the media and that's where things spiraled until Eli ended up in New York.
That's a rumor on Peyton, but he's never mentioned it. I think he wanted to win the Heisman and win a NC for Rocky Top. And he didn't run away from the Colts when they drafted him. They were a complete mess with Irsay as their crazy owner. Peyton so embraced the challenge of going to the Colts that he told Polian that if he didn't draft him he looked forward to kicking his ass every time he had a chance to play them...
If AJ Smith preferred Rivers, why didn't he just draft him with the #1 pick?
He was in an organizational war with Schottenheimer.
I get it. So why have the draft? In essence, you want every college player who is NFL eligible to be true free agents and sign wherever they can negotiate the best deal. Because you can't just allow QBs to have this luxury...
I never suggested that any or all NFL Draft-eligible players entering the league should be “true free agents and sign wherever they can negotiate the best deal”.
The NFL has a right to institute a draft and assign player’s rights to the team that chooses them. No one expects them to give up that right.
But players have rights too. ALL players entering the NFL (not just QBs or top picks) have a right to refuse to report to the team that chooses them if they feel it would be detrimental to their careers, and use any leverage that they have to be traded to another team. Obviously the top players have more leverage than players who have been rated as less talented, but it's the same with the top talent in any profession.
It’s a financial risk for a player to refuse to report because an owner with a big ego might tell them to stuff it. In which case the player could not only miss a year of salary, they would also delay their second contract by one year.
I don’t see the NFL or any of their teams giving up whatever leverage they have. Not sure why you expect players to do so.
New York market, team with a huge, invested fanbase that hasn’t won in 50 years. What an opportunity. Gase will be out the door so no concerns there.
It’s a great landing spot.
great landing spot? Lets not get carried away. If the Jets are a great landing spot then you're saying there isn't a bad NFL landing spot. Where is that bad landing spot if it isn't the Jets?
we don't even have to come up with excuses or reasons why Eli jilted the Chargers. It shouldn't matter. If you're good enough coming out of college where you can at least try and dictate which team drafts you, there is nothing wrong with trying. You earned the clout. Use it. If it blows up in your face oh well, that's on the player.
If Eli didn't want to play in SD because he wanted to avoid some ex girlfriend or because the pizza sucks out there, he has the right to try and dictate things.
Owners and teams can literally ruin someone's career but I guess that's just fine. Owners earned the right to do whatever the fuck they want but some 21 year old kid hasn't I take it? Fuck that noise.
Why would he turn down the Jets and stay in school?
we don't even have to come up with excuses or reasons why Eli jilted the Chargers. It shouldn't matter. If you're good enough coming out of college where you can at least try and dictate which team drafts you, there is nothing wrong with trying. You earned the clout. Use it. If it blows up in your face oh well, that's on the player.
If Eli didn't want to play in SD because he wanted to avoid some ex girlfriend or because the pizza sucks out there, he has the right to try and dictate things.
Owners and teams can literally ruin someone's career but I guess that's just fine. Owners earned the right to do whatever the fuck they want but some 21 year old kid hasn't I take it? Fuck that noise.
exactly. Why does anybody care what kid coming out of college tries to do. Maybe they overplay their hand, maybe they get away with it. I couldn't care less.
New York market, team with a huge, invested fanbase that hasn’t won in 50 years. What an opportunity. Gase will be out the door so no concerns there.
It’s a great landing spot.
Payton Manning could have gone to the jets. They had the first pick when he was a junior, and he would have gone first. He chose to go back to college instead.
I suppose his career earnings and chances to do advertisements really suffered from not being in the NY market. LOL
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
I doubt he would do that. Shitty teams get the #1 pick, just the way it is.
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this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
Taking off my big blue blinders... yes.
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this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
Taking off my big blue blinders... yes.
Maybe my blinders are still on but I think Eli more than made up for it since that happened.
Hey, if/when Lawrence goes to Jets, what becomes of Darnold?
Were Eli and Elway wrong for doing that? I think they both made the correct decision for their careers.
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this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
Taking off my big blue blinders... yes.
I don't agree with your assessment as I think draft-eligible players should be allowed to use whatever leverage is at their disposal.
Having said that, I actually applaud your objective, non-biased opinion regarding a Giants' player. That's a rare attribute for a BBIers.
Agreed. And incidentally, neither of those franchises even stayed in the same city during the respective QB's careers. The Colts left the next year. That is how much disarray those franchises were in at the time.
Still spouting that nonsense to suggest the NFL is fixed, eh?
If you think the NFL is going to arrange it so that Lawrence ends up in Atlanta because it "makes too much sense", then you're suggesting the NFL is going to fix games to ensure that ATL ends up with the top pick. There's no other way to interpret it.
So if you think the NFL fixes games, why do you even watch? (Serious question.)
Having said that, I don't agree that there is hardly a market for Darnold. You could put him in a ready-to-go offense like the Colts and he would be fine. He promises to be more than just a back-up quarterback. I could see him being a fit in any of Denver, Minnesota, Chicago, New England, Washington. They could even groom him as a successor in Pittsburgh to Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh aren't ever going to get a high draft pick, so imagine they could get Darnold on the cheap if the Jets trade him.
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this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
I didn't like it when Elway and Eli did it. I prefer a player get in the league through the process, whether you like the draft or not, and earn your stripes; and when it's time to hit free agency then go where you want...
But with that, Atlanta is currently drafting 2nd....certainly within reach to end up one....or near enough to make a deal.
Lawrence would be valued higher to Atlanta...than the Jets, imo.
So I can see things like getting worked out.
At the end of the day....the NFL is a business.....BIG entertainment business.
So you are opposed to the draft, which is a different, larger argument.
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this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
I didn't like it when Elway and Eli did it. I prefer a player get in the league through the process, whether you like the draft or not, and earn your stripes; and when it's time to hit free agency then go where you want...
The problem with that is, if an overall #1 QB ends up in the wrong organization it could ruin his career.
A player has to look out for himself and his family. Elway, Eli and others simply used levarge to get a better outcome. The Colts and later the Chargers could have chosen to exercise THEIR leverage and called the player's bluff. They chose to trade them instead.
But the league wants competitive balance. And there are rules and processes in place to try to achieve that. So those should be adhered to until changed.
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this kid is a class act. It would be out of character for him to pull an Elway/Manning.
So you're suggesting that Elway and Manning were classless?
Taking off my big blue blinders... yes.
I don't agree with your assessment as I think draft-eligible players should be allowed to use whatever leverage is at their disposal.
Having said that, I actually applaud your objective, non-biased opinion regarding a Giants' player. That's a rare attribute for a BBIers.
Basing Eli around here is stock and trade. What I don't get is why the same courtesy ins't extended to Jones? Go back and watch Eli in last year's Dolphins game. Same supposedly crappy O line and "supporting cast". He had more time to throw and it had nothing to do with Saquon. It had to do with him. A Qb that can open up the field and throw 30 + yard passes multiple times a game. Jones makes one good throw a year to Tate for a TD and you'd think it was the second coming round here.
The NFL instituted a rule that players have to wait 3 years before entering the NFL because they don't want to pay for the extra player development required. The NFL had a rule that effectively said, "last year, Trevor Lawrence wasn't ready for the NFL." Now the NFL is going to get up in arms if a players decides on his terms that a specific franchise in the NFL isn't properly prepared or functional enough for him?
On top of that, Lawrence would be taking a risk to do this. He is passing up on a year of professional earnings on the back end, delaying free agency, he could get injured at Clemson and drop in the draft like Tua, he could have a "down" year and (like Justin Herbert) go from the top pick, to the third QB taken in the draft.
there is 0% chance he would refuse to go to the Jets
But with that, Atlanta is currently drafting 2nd....certainly within reach to end up one....or near enough to make a deal.
Lawrence would be valued higher to Atlanta...than the Jets, imo.
So I can see things like getting worked out.
At the end of the day....the NFL is a business.....BIG entertainment business.
I love it when posters suggest that fans are naïve because just because they do NOT think that NFL games are fixed. It’s funny though that they never offer any proof of their conspiracy theory, other than some sort of “follow the money” B.S.
Sure the NFL is entertainment, but it's not the WWE.
In order to arrange it so that ATL gets the overall #1, they would have to conspire to do so. They would have to pay off multiple refs, and/or players and coaches to make it happen. These refs, players and coaches would be risking their careers by taking money. And the NFL would be risking their billion-dollar reputation and to what end? So that Lawrence can play in the country’s 37th largest city instead of the media capital of the world, NYC with the Jets or Giants????
Absolutely absurd!
You’re still suggesting the NFL will fix games to ensure that ATL gets Lawrence and of course you never answered my question...
If you think the NFL fixes games, why do you watch?
And just as an aside, whichever team ends up with the #1 overall pick, especially the Jets, they are not going to trade Lawrence, regardless of what is offered. There’s a big difference between trading the best QB in a given year and trading the rights to a potentially special player like Lawrence.
Then again I don't think Mr. Manning didn't want Eli going to the Chargers because NY is such a big media market. They had a t the time a better team and a better front office that was going to be winning games. Where as the Chargers were going to end up playing in an Los Angeles soccer stadium 16 years later after not winning anything.
Point being why the hell would he want to go to the Giants anyway?
It’s a great landing spot.
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Not sure I would look at it that black and white....but I also not naive enough to think....things are all happenstance.
But with that, Atlanta is currently drafting 2nd....certainly within reach to end up one....or near enough to make a deal.
Lawrence would be valued higher to Atlanta...than the Jets, imo.
So I can see things like getting worked out.
At the end of the day....the NFL is a business.....BIG entertainment business.
I love it when posters suggest that fans are naïve because just because they do NOT think that NFL games are fixed. It’s funny though that they never offer any proof of their conspiracy theory, other than some sort of “follow the money” B.S.
Sure the NFL is entertainment, but it's not the WWE.
In order to arrange it so that ATL gets the overall #1, they would have to conspire to do so. They would have to pay off multiple refs, and/or players and coaches to make it happen. These refs, players and coaches would be risking their careers by taking money. And the NFL would be risking their billion-dollar reputation and to what end? So that Lawrence can play in the country’s 37th largest city instead of the media capital of the world, NYC with the Jets or Giants????
Absolutely absurd!
You’re still suggesting the NFL will fix games to ensure that ATL gets Lawrence and of course you never answered my question...
If you think the NFL fixes games, why do you watch?
And just as an aside, whichever team ends up with the #1 overall pick, especially the Jets, they are not going to trade Lawrence, regardless of what is offered. There’s a big difference between trading the best QB in a given year and trading the rights to a potentially special player like Lawrence.
I mean that is true. back then you knew you were getting either Big ben, Rivers or Eli if you were picking high and looking for a QB. All were pretty much equally good.
Eli's situation was different. The Chargers were in an organizational war between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith. And Schottenheimer made it known to Eli's camp that Smith and the front office preferred Rivers. Eli's reaction was "well, if they prefer Rivers, I'd rather play somewhere else". Smith leaked it to the media and that's where things spiraled until Eli ended up in New York.
Eli's situation was different. The Chargers were in an organizational war between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith. And Schottenheimer made it known to Eli's camp that Smith and the front office preferred Rivers. Eli's reaction was "well, if they prefer Rivers, I'd rather play somewhere else". Smith leaked it to the media and that's where things spiraled until Eli ended up in New York.
That's a rumor on Peyton, but he's never mentioned it. I think he wanted to win the Heisman and win a NC for Rocky Top. And he didn't run away from the Colts when they drafted him. They were a complete mess with Irsay as their crazy owner. Peyton so embraced the challenge of going to the Colts that he told Polian that if he didn't draft him he looked forward to kicking his ass every time he had a chance to play them...
If AJ Smith preferred Rivers, why didn't he just draft him with the #1 pick?
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IIRC Peyton chose to return to college rather than play for the Jets.
Eli's situation was different. The Chargers were in an organizational war between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith. And Schottenheimer made it known to Eli's camp that Smith and the front office preferred Rivers. Eli's reaction was "well, if they prefer Rivers, I'd rather play somewhere else". Smith leaked it to the media and that's where things spiraled until Eli ended up in New York.
That's a rumor on Peyton, but he's never mentioned it. I think he wanted to win the Heisman and win a NC for Rocky Top. And he didn't run away from the Colts when they drafted him. They were a complete mess with Irsay as their crazy owner. Peyton so embraced the challenge of going to the Colts that he told Polian that if he didn't draft him he looked forward to kicking his ass every time he had a chance to play them...
If AJ Smith preferred Rivers, why didn't he just draft him with the #1 pick?
He was in an organizational war with Schottenheimer.
If they get Lawrence, the Giants will be the junior team in NY for the next 10-15 years.
They're guaranteed the first pick at this point, so it's really on whether Lawrence wants to be a Jet or not.
I never suggested that any or all NFL Draft-eligible players entering the league should be “true free agents and sign wherever they can negotiate the best deal”.
The NFL has a right to institute a draft and assign player’s rights to the team that chooses them. No one expects them to give up that right.
But players have rights too. ALL players entering the NFL (not just QBs or top picks) have a right to refuse to report to the team that chooses them if they feel it would be detrimental to their careers, and use any leverage that they have to be traded to another team. Obviously the top players have more leverage than players who have been rated as less talented, but it's the same with the top talent in any profession.
It’s a financial risk for a player to refuse to report because an owner with a big ego might tell them to stuff it. In which case the player could not only miss a year of salary, they would also delay their second contract by one year.
I don’t see the NFL or any of their teams giving up whatever leverage they have. Not sure why you expect players to do so.
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if they get him. They haven't had a really good qb since like Favre I guess?
If they get Lawrence, the Giants will be the junior team in NY for the next 10-15 years.
They're guaranteed the first pick at this point, so it's really on whether Lawrence wants to be a Jet or not.
Guess what they were the Jr. team until they won again in 2011. They were the Jr team before that as well back when they had Favre and the like.
It is really just being a nerd / nerd mentality. Like everyone has to do the same things.
No one told Bill Gates to stay in college
Some of you are weird.
It’s a great landing spot.
great landing spot? Lets not get carried away. If the Jets are a great landing spot then you're saying there isn't a bad NFL landing spot. Where is that bad landing spot if it isn't the Jets?
If Eli didn't want to play in SD because he wanted to avoid some ex girlfriend or because the pizza sucks out there, he has the right to try and dictate things.
Owners and teams can literally ruin someone's career but I guess that's just fine. Owners earned the right to do whatever the fuck they want but some 21 year old kid hasn't I take it? Fuck that noise.
If Eli didn't want to play in SD because he wanted to avoid some ex girlfriend or because the pizza sucks out there, he has the right to try and dictate things.
Owners and teams can literally ruin someone's career but I guess that's just fine. Owners earned the right to do whatever the fuck they want but some 21 year old kid hasn't I take it? Fuck that noise.
exactly. Why does anybody care what kid coming out of college tries to do. Maybe they overplay their hand, maybe they get away with it. I couldn't care less.
It’s a great landing spot.
Payton Manning could have gone to the jets. They had the first pick when he was a junior, and he would have gone first. He chose to go back to college instead.
I suppose his career earnings and chances to do advertisements really suffered from not being in the NY market. LOL