I have tentative plans to fly to Albany, rent a car, and drive to Southern Vermont. I live in Maryland which is currently on the restricted travel list for New York State. Will I be allowed to do this without potentially being fined? I don't like breaking rules but I won't be staying in NY. My research left me more confused. Has anyone traveled in a similar way?
Assuming NYS isn't your final destination, I don't think it applies. And I have no idea how it would be enforced.
The cynic in me says the only reason it is in place is to blame any increases in tranmsission on 'outsiders'.
And I think the case rate in NJ is high enough that it qualifies for a NY ban yet it is not banned? The messaging is all over the place?
If you do chose to dine in a restaurant in NY, again respect others and yourself and the bug itself, but no one is checking anything.
Protect yourself and protect others with masks, thorough and frequent hand washing, and hand sanitizer when that is all that's available.
I spoke with a State trooper in Vermont....Vermont was "requiring " anyone coming from NY (which is where I drive from PA).....and he explained.
They have no recourse in VT but neither does NY.....no fines, no warning, nothing can be done...no way to enforce rule.
The cynic in me says the only reason it is in place is to blame any increases in tranmsission on 'outsiders'.
And I think the case rate in NJ is high enough that it qualifies for a NY ban yet it is not banned? The messaging is all over the place?
because lots of people from connecticut, jersey or pa work in nyc there exempt from the ban
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i dont even see how its enforceable, are they literally stopping every vehicle at the border with out of state plates and forcing them to quarantine? This isn't hawaii, an out of state quarantine is nearly impossible to enforce.
The cynic in me says the only reason it is in place is to blame any increases in tranmsission on 'outsiders'.
And I think the case rate in NJ is high enough that it qualifies for a NY ban yet it is not banned? The messaging is all over the place?
because lots of people from connecticut, jersey or pa work in nyc there exempt from the ban
which makes zero sense. you can't come into NY from a state with high case rate, but if you are from a NJ county with a high case rate and work in the City, that's ok.
That's not how disease transmission works which is why the whole banning states thing was ridiculous from the start.
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i dont even see how its enforceable, are they literally stopping every vehicle at the border with out of state plates and forcing them to quarantine? This isn't hawaii, an out of state quarantine is nearly impossible to enforce.
The cynic in me says the only reason it is in place is to blame any increases in tranmsission on 'outsiders'.
And I think the case rate in NJ is high enough that it qualifies for a NY ban yet it is not banned? The messaging is all over the place?
because lots of people from connecticut, jersey or pa work in nyc there exempt from the ban
which makes zero sense. you can't come into NY from a state with high case rate, but if you are from a NJ county with a high case rate and work in the City, that's ok.
That's not how disease transmission works which is why the whole banning states thing was ridiculous from the start.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that. Initially the surrounding states sort of mirrored NY with lower rates compared to other states (e.g., Florida and the south/southwest). It made sense be helped back then. But, since schools started up and there was a resurgence, the other states grew at a greater rate. Now, Cuomo has to balance practicality, economy, and infection rates which is not an easy thing and, I think, breaks the plan.
NY travel refs - ( New Window )
And, not intending to be prissy, but I don't think it matters if they enforce or can enforce it, either in VT or NY. It's a question of believing in public safety/public health. Violating the travel restrictions is not really any different than being one of those guys who refuses to wear a mask.
NY travel refs - ( New Window )
Thank you, that's exactly the info I was looking for.
And, not intending to be prissy, but I don't think it matters if they enforce or can enforce it, either in VT or NY. It's a question of believing in public safety/public health. Violating the travel restrictions is not really any different than being one of those guys who refuses to wear a mask.
I get what you're saying. I follow all of the protocols and have tested COVID negative in the last few weeks. I work in the healthcare industry. I have to make the decision whether to make a stink about it or do what I am being asked to do.
And, not intending to be prissy, but I don't think it matters if they enforce or can enforce it, either in VT or NY. It's a question of believing in public safety/public health. Violating the travel restrictions is not really any different than being one of those guys who refuses to wear a mask.
IMHO flaunting the quarantine restrictions is in fact very, very different from flaunting the regulation - or simply common sense - of wearing a mask, washing hands, and maintaining social distancing.
In fact these two sets of actions are worlds apart, if you consider the actual results fomented by either one.
At least that's what I have seen throughout this damn pandemic.
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And, not intending to be prissy, but I don't think it matters if they enforce or can enforce it, either in VT or NY. It's a question of believing in public safety/public health. Violating the travel restrictions is not really any different than being one of those guys who refuses to wear a mask.
IMHO flaunting the quarantine restrictions is in fact very, very different from flaunting the regulation - or simply common sense - of wearing a mask, washing hands, and maintaining social distancing.
In fact these two sets of actions are worlds apart, if you consider the actual results fomented by either one.
At least that's what I have seen throughout this damn pandemic.
I don't see that at all. Both are real world ways of reducing spread. Both are (or can be) mandates. IMO, flouting both are basically doing what you want to do because it suits you, regardless of anything else.