the play where his defender pushed him back and he lost his balance because he squatted back and got knocked on his ass? I mean, there were a couple so surprised you didn't include at least one
the play where his defender pushed him back and he lost his balance because he squatted back and got knocked on his ass? I mean, there were a couple so surprised you didn't include at least one
This is taken from a 2 minute video of his highlights in this game. If you have the full game on tape, direct me to it.
But please show me a clip of Thomas playing like that from 2020. Hint: you won't.
And yes, I get it. He's 21. It's only 7 games. It'd be foolish to write him off a bust. That said, he's been awful & to say otherwise is ignore reality.
...he is carrying a lot of weight on that frame and that holds potential for injury. We aren't wishing that on him but that is a concern. He looks better than Thomas at the moment but let's give it a year or two.
I didn't think I had to preface the thread with a disclaimer
the play where his defender pushed him back and he lost his balance because he squatted back and got knocked on his ass? I mean, there were a couple so surprised you didn't include at least one
This is taken from a 2 minute video of his highlights in this game. If you have the full game on tape, direct me to it.
why would I dvr that shitshow? I got to watch it live and that was painful enough. Even through not even paying attention It wasn't hard to find a bunch of plays were his lack of balance was an issue
I would be embarassed if a 350lbs human couldnt knock a dt on his ass that was engaged with someone else
For the last time: still way too early to judge either player
Thomas needs technique work in pass protection. No question there, but there is no doubt in my mind he will be a solid run blocker. Perhaps Thomas is our RT and Peart our LT in 2021? I'd be happy if both became solid players.
Not having a full off-season really hurt the Giants.
it would be great to be able to do this with one of Gettleman's five first round picks in three years (including 3 in the top 6).
But you can't.
Come on man, no need for hyperbole, Barkley and Jones have NFL highlight reels. Just for different reasons may not wind up as the best picks in their respective spots.
it would be great to be able to do this with one of Gettleman's five first round picks in three years (including 3 in the top 6).
But you can't.
Come on man, no need for hyperbole, Barkley and Jones have NFL highlight reels. Just for different reasons may not wind up as the best picks in their respective spots.
Exactly. Some of this shit is comical. I’m 40 years old . Giants have won 4 Super Bowls in my lifetime. These dummkopfs are fellating the Jets and Cardinals. Jets haven’t won since Namath, and the Cardinals in 70 years or so, the longest drought in any major sport.
The criticism of Barkley is precisely that he makes the highlight plays but has other weaknesses, yet here someone is complaining about how no Giants have any highlights like the fat guy blocking. Have you ever watched Barkley play?
I think GoTerps was a little over his skis on that last
That you can find a few plays where a player makes good plays?
The point is with Becton you at least see flashes of the potential to be great. You can legitimately make the argument that if he learns and develops you have a perennial all-pro LT on your hands.
Where’s the potential with Thomas outside of being the next Flowers?
post. That said, I get his frustration. We've been watching trash for far too long.
I want talking about paying a highlight clip. I was talking about just feeling good about any of the five of them. And why would we?
So you can't put together a highlight clip of Jones, Barkley and Lawrence?? You can't feel good about any of them?? And using the logic you do, why the fuck would Jets fans be feeling good, afterall, a high draft pick plays and they still lose.
Isn't that the song and dance that you do on the dead horse every fucking day?
Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
But no feel good moments for you at all?
Not really, no. It's been three years of irrelevance and bad football. The first good feeling has been Judge, who actually might be able to point is back in the direction of actual professional football.
Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
But no feel good moments for you at all?
Not really, no. It's been three years of irrelevance and bad football. The first good feeling has been Judge, who actually might be able to point is back in the direction of actual professional football.
That makes me sad, actually. Even in the morass of bad losses and overall disappointment, I've seen moments of tremendous individual plays from both Saquon and DJ that make me feel good. I thought that was true for everyone; small moments of joy in darkness and all that jazz.
The dumbasses on the board that called him Ereck Flowers 2.0
Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
But no feel good moments for you at all?
Not really, no. It's been three years of irrelevance and bad football. The first good feeling has been Judge, who actually might be able to point is back in the direction of actual professional football.
That makes me sad, actually. Even in the morass of bad losses and overall disappointment, I've seen moments of tremendous individual plays from both Saquon and DJ that make me feel good. I thought that was true for everyone; small moments of joy in darkness and all that jazz.
It makes me sad too. Watching the Giants used to be a lot of fun.
FMiC - how's it feel to have spent three years being the white knight for an arrogant failure at GM? It's not often someone is as wrong for as long on something that big as you've been. I can understand you grasping at straws now.
Look at the board today. Nearly every fucking thread has references to the GM being an abject failure. Prior to the GM, it was Eli.
Everything has become an over the top mob beating. And the foolishness is acting as if just replacing the GM is the cure, just like replacing Eli was the cure.
Some of you guys spend a great deal of time posting every fucking day about how terrible the team you follow is. And then proudly beat your chests that you've been "right". It's so warped that if people aren't trashing the team daily, they are called "defenders".
Spending so much time on a FAN site mocking people who aren't screaming like a banshee daily seems pretty fucking rewarding, no? What do you get for bitching for several fucking years? The joy of watching a losing football team!
I respect both of your opinions and enjoy both of your posts. I have supported Gettleman through this whole “rebuild” up until this season which I think we have in common FMIC. I agree with GoTerps on this one. I mean I’m not saying all of the guys the Giants have drafted are trash, but we haven’t really made much progress here the last few years. It’s getting pretty pathetic. Remember, the Browns were coming off an 0-16 season the year we drafted Barkley. Now they are looking like a potential playoff team and we look like we’ll be picking in the top 5 again. That’s piss poor GM work. We should be working our way towards middle of the pack at this point.
Spending so much time on a FAN site mocking people who aren't screaming like a banshee daily seems pretty fucking rewarding, no? What do you get for bitching for several fucking years? The joy of watching a losing football team!
But please show me a clip of Thomas playing like that from 2020. Hint: you won't.
And yes, I get it. He's 21. It's only 7 games. It'd be foolish to write him off a bust. That said, he's been awful & to say otherwise is ignore reality.
it would be great to be able to do this with one of Gettleman's five first round picks in three years (including 3 in the top 6).
But you can't.
Come on man, no need for hyperbole, Barkley and Jones have NFL highlight reels. Just for different reasons may not wind up as the best picks in their respective spots.
Exactly. Some of this shit is comical. I’m 40 years old . Giants have won 4 Super Bowls in my lifetime. These dummkopfs are fellating the Jets and Cardinals. Jets haven’t won since Namath, and the Cardinals in 70 years or so, the longest drought in any major sport.
The criticism of Barkley is precisely that he makes the highlight plays but has other weaknesses, yet here someone is complaining about how no Giants have any highlights like the fat guy blocking. Have you ever watched Barkley play?
Now this is hyperbole. No one is “fellating” the Jets. But it is extremely hard to see these other round one tackles playing so much better than ours, when we had the pick of the liter. And with Thomas, it’s not just a couple of isolated plays, it’s fairly constant. Are you seeing different?
It's a lot harder to do so for Thomas, unfortunately.
Here's one point, of many that you can take from this:
Sometimes "pro ready" and "safe" isn't actually thus.
This is taken from a 2 minute video of his highlights in this game. If you have the full game on tape, direct me to it.
And yes, I get it. He's 21. It's only 7 games. It'd be foolish to write him off a bust. That said, he's been awful & to say otherwise is ignore reality.
But you can't.
I don't think I've seen Thomas make plays like that in blue at all.
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the play where his defender pushed him back and he lost his balance because he squatted back and got knocked on his ass? I mean, there were a couple so surprised you didn't include at least one
This is taken from a 2 minute video of his highlights in this game. If you have the full game on tape, direct me to it.
why would I dvr that shitshow? I got to watch it live and that was painful enough. Even through not even paying attention It wasn't hard to find a bunch of plays were his lack of balance was an issue
I would be embarassed if a 350lbs human couldnt knock a dt on his ass that was engaged with someone else
Not having a full off-season really hurt the Giants.
But you can't.
Come on man, no need for hyperbole, Barkley and Jones have NFL highlight reels. Just for different reasons may not wind up as the best picks in their respective spots.
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it would be great to be able to do this with one of Gettleman's five first round picks in three years (including 3 in the top 6).
But you can't.
Come on man, no need for hyperbole, Barkley and Jones have NFL highlight reels. Just for different reasons may not wind up as the best picks in their respective spots.
Exactly. Some of this shit is comical. I’m 40 years old . Giants have won 4 Super Bowls in my lifetime. These dummkopfs are fellating the Jets and Cardinals. Jets haven’t won since Namath, and the Cardinals in 70 years or so, the longest drought in any major sport.
The criticism of Barkley is precisely that he makes the highlight plays but has other weaknesses, yet here someone is complaining about how no Giants have any highlights like the fat guy blocking. Have you ever watched Barkley play?
This is fucking silly. Its been 7 games amd we all knew that the learning curve for rookies would be rough. How soon we gorget.
The point is with Becton you at least see flashes of the potential to be great. You can legitimately make the argument that if he learns and develops you have a perennial all-pro LT on your hands.
Where’s the potential with Thomas outside of being the next Flowers?
This is fucking silly. Its been 7 games amd we all knew that the learning curve for rookies would be rough. How soon we gorget.
It is 100% irrelevant which ones of us wanted Becton over thomas.
If we're at the point where we can't discuss tackle play at all unless it's andrew thomas, what's the point of having a discussion board?
They're in the same draft class, they're all rookies playing under the same offseason circumstances. They're going to be compared, like it or not.
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are becoming worse than the draft time new posters. I can count on one hand how many people wanted Becton over Thomas.
This is fucking silly. Its been 7 games amd we all knew that the learning curve for rookies would be rough. How soon we gorget.
It is 100% irrelevant which ones of us wanted Becton over thomas.
If we're at the point where we can't discuss tackle play at all unless it's andrew thomas, what's the point of having a discussion board?
They're in the same draft class, they're all rookies playing under the same offseason circumstances. They're going to be compared, like it or not.
Its not irrelevant. Its tedious to see the same topic brought up on a daily basis.
I want talking about paying a highlight clip. I was talking about just feeling good about any of the five of them. And why would we?
If it's muscle. Jonathan Ogden played at 345 (6'9") played 11 years - 11 times Pro Bowl, 9 times ALL Pro
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post. That said, I get his frustration. We've been watching trash for far too long.
I want talking about paying a highlight clip. I was talking about just feeling good about any of the five of them. And why would we?
Overall or moments? Because you can't deny that their have been feel good moments.
And, you're feeling good about the Jets last 3 #1's as compared to NY's in toto? I actually would prefer the Giants' myself.
You forgot what site you're on!
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that he wasn't perfect.
You forgot what site you're on!
Not really. The whole point was the implied and trite "Thomas sucks" and everybody understood that without a need to preface anything.
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
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Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
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post. That said, I get his frustration. We've been watching trash for far too long.
I want talking about paying a highlight clip. I was talking about just feeling good about any of the five of them. And why would we?
So you can't put together a highlight clip of Jones, Barkley and Lawrence?? You can't feel good about any of them?? And using the logic you do, why the fuck would Jets fans be feeling good, afterall, a high draft pick plays and they still lose.
Isn't that the song and dance that you do on the dead horse every fucking day?
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Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
You sure do move goalposts around a lot.
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Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
But no feel good moments for you at all?
Not really, no. It's been three years of irrelevance and bad football. The first good feeling has been Judge, who actually might be able to point is back in the direction of actual professional football.
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Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
But no feel good moments for you at all?
Not really, no. It's been three years of irrelevance and bad football. The first good feeling has been Judge, who actually might be able to point is back in the direction of actual professional football.
That makes me sad, actually. Even in the morass of bad losses and overall disappointment, I've seen moments of tremendous individual plays from both Saquon and DJ that make me feel good. I thought that was true for everyone; small moments of joy in darkness and all that jazz.
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Now I’ve seen it all. A few good plays from Becton and Go Terps actually forgets that Saquon Barkley is on the Giants
Barkley hasn't made any difference from day one, and his best days from a health and cost perspective are over.
But no feel good moments for you at all?
Not really, no. It's been three years of irrelevance and bad football. The first good feeling has been Judge, who actually might be able to point is back in the direction of actual professional football.
That makes me sad, actually. Even in the morass of bad losses and overall disappointment, I've seen moments of tremendous individual plays from both Saquon and DJ that make me feel good. I thought that was true for everyone; small moments of joy in darkness and all that jazz.
It makes me sad too. Watching the Giants used to be a lot of fun.
FMiC - how's it feel to have spent three years being the white knight for an arrogant failure at GM? It's not often someone is as wrong for as long on something that big as you've been. I can understand you grasping at straws now.
Look at the board today. Nearly every fucking thread has references to the GM being an abject failure. Prior to the GM, it was Eli.
Everything has become an over the top mob beating. And the foolishness is acting as if just replacing the GM is the cure, just like replacing Eli was the cure.
Some of you guys spend a great deal of time posting every fucking day about how terrible the team you follow is. And then proudly beat your chests that you've been "right". It's so warped that if people aren't trashing the team daily, they are called "defenders".
Spending so much time on a FAN site mocking people who aren't screaming like a banshee daily seems pretty fucking rewarding, no? What do you get for bitching for several fucking years? The joy of watching a losing football team!
Yay you!
Spending so much time on a FAN site mocking people who aren't screaming like a banshee daily seems pretty fucking rewarding, no? What do you get for bitching for several fucking years? The joy of watching a losing football team!
That's the irony!
Hey Googs, um when have I spent years bitching about the team??
And yes, I get it. He's 21. It's only 7 games. It'd be foolish to write him off a bust. That said, he's been awful & to say otherwise is ignore reality.
Plus 1
True. Nice to see him tossing NFL guys around like boys, too.
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it would be great to be able to do this with one of Gettleman's five first round picks in three years (including 3 in the top 6).
But you can't.
Come on man, no need for hyperbole, Barkley and Jones have NFL highlight reels. Just for different reasons may not wind up as the best picks in their respective spots.
Exactly. Some of this shit is comical. I’m 40 years old . Giants have won 4 Super Bowls in my lifetime. These dummkopfs are fellating the Jets and Cardinals. Jets haven’t won since Namath, and the Cardinals in 70 years or so, the longest drought in any major sport.
The criticism of Barkley is precisely that he makes the highlight plays but has other weaknesses, yet here someone is complaining about how no Giants have any highlights like the fat guy blocking. Have you ever watched Barkley play?
Now this is hyperbole. No one is “fellating” the Jets. But it is extremely hard to see these other round one tackles playing so much better than ours, when we had the pick of the liter. And with Thomas, it’s not just a couple of isolated plays, it’s fairly constant. Are you seeing different?
Gettleman was 11-5 in his last year before he wore out his welcome in your backyard.
In three years here so far, the teams he has built have ten wins. Ten.
So absolutely replacing the GM is the cure.