Russel 14 interceptions 16 fumbles
Jones 19 interceptions 23 fumbles
I like the kid, I really do. I think he can play in this league but god damn he’s a turnover machine. I don’t know if this is gonna be fixable. He shows us glimpses of brilliance but you’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Gun to my head, I don’t think he’s the guy to lead us back to the promise land. I hope he proves me wrong!
@DanSchneierNFL
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Before you give up on Daniel Jones, did you know the #Giants have PFF's dead last (Andrew Thomas) and second-to-last (Cam Fleming) graded OTs in pass pro (of 57 OTs who qualify)?
They combine to allow 57 pressures in 7 games.
The #Browns entire Oline has allowed 40 pressures.
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Dan Duggan
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This, from the Giants, is ... something: In the NFL’s 101-season history, more than 1,800 players have 75 or more rushing attempts. Only one player among them has a per-carry average of at least 7.6 yards. That player is Daniel Jones.
And we have an OC that doesn't design the offense around that strength.
Excuses and all.
Jones reached a top speed of 21 MPH the other night, which eclipses Lamar Jackson's best, and better than ANY QB in the NFL since 2018.
The next part is from Giants.com:
Lamar Jackson (Baltimore) - 1,552
Kyler Murray (Arizona) - 981
Josh Allen (Buffalo) - 714
Russell Wilson (Seattle) - 579
Daniel Jones (Giants) - 575
Jones leads the Giants with 296 rushing yards on 31 carries, a 9.5-yard average that is the highest by an NFL quarterback with that many attempts since 1992, when Pro Football Hall of Famer Steve Young averaged 9.6 yards (297 yards through 31 carries) for the San Francisco 49ers. The last NFL player to maintain such a high average at this statistical juncture was wide receiver Tavon Austin, who gained 303 yards on his first 31 carries (9.8-yard avg.) for the 2015 St. Louis Rams.
More from Giants.com:
Fran Tarkenton (1967-68) - 41
Charlie Conerly (1948-49) - 36
Y.A. Tittle (1961-62) - 33
Earl Morrall (1965-66) - 29
Daniel Jones (2019-20) - 29
A lot more statistical tidbits here on Giants.com if you're interested:
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Excuses and all.
I don't think Jones sucks. I think he's got some good and some bad, is unlikely to ever be great, and thus the team should be looking to maximize what's left of the asset and move on.
As for the OC, he sucks.
I don't think the Alex Smith comp is correct. Perhaps that is his upside, but Smith is a disciplined, accurate QB who doesn't get easily flustered. Right now Jones is none of those things. Right now Jones is very poor with flashes of good play and is more similar to Trubisky, Mariota or Osweiler, imo. He needs to take a step up to be compared to actual, successful QBs.
Agree. His ceiling is Alex Smith or Ryan Tannehill. Ironically, I think Jones is exactly what Getty had in mind when he talked about QB hell. There’s people here who say Jones flashes greatness and I just don’t see that. I see Jones make some nice throws every game but, most guys in the NFL do too.
That's been established early. We've moved beyond that.
No worries, I'm going to start a new thread to get off this one. I don't want those stats buried.
yea what Britt said. Jamarcus is an epic bust and he's on a short list of busts that big. Now we're comparing Jones to Alex Smith and Justin Herbert.
Too bad it generated revenue for the website and got people talking. I guess I can stop positing and this place can be as quiet as a funeral home. I was always told Giants fans are a box and wine type crowd and this place really shows that.
Okay then.
These stats are extremely relevant and very much NOT in isolation as people seem to want to do.
Okay then.
Yet your fat ass is still here chirping away at me. Again.
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Generated revenue??
Okay then.
Yet your fat ass is still here chirping away at me. Again.
Just giving my two cents, Pal.
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JaMarcus Russell is one of the biggest busts in NFL history. Jones, for all his faults, is a million times better than Russell.
Too bad it generated revenue for the website and got people talking. I guess I can stop positing and this place can be as quiet as a funeral home. I was always told Giants fans are a box and wine type crowd and this place really shows that.
Go ahead, stop posting, if you can’t handle criticism. We’ll all just have to struggle to get by without you
Users consistently portray this year as if players were not able to do anything.
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WTF has happened to this board....
Oh, stop. This team has 10 wins over the past three seasons and some fans keep defending them.
You're what happened to this board.
Boom!!!
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WTF has happened to this board....
The real problem is that we now have a full generation of posters who learned their football from playing Madden then honed their skills in Fantasy Leagues ... The virus has them ‘working from home’ with too much time on their hands so when they’re done playing with themselves they dream up shit like this.
I can almost guarantee that I'm older than you. I'm definitely smarter than you. And you're a dipshit xenophobe that shouldn't be making generalizations about anyone.
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WTF has happened to this board....
Oh, stop. This team has 10 wins over the past three seasons and some fans keep defending them.
You're what happened to this board.
Look my butthurt stalker is back...LOL
You might want to learn some common turns of phrase before you start the namecalling. You might even want to try to hold your own in a debate with me before you start calling me a staker. But nice job trying to punch above your weight.
Maybe start with some Dr. Seuss books first?
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In comment 15025882 montanagiant said:
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WTF has happened to this board....
Oh, stop. This team has 10 wins over the past three seasons and some fans keep defending them.
You're what happened to this board.
Look my butthurt stalker is back...LOL
You might want to learn some common turns of phrase before you start the namecalling. You might even want to try to hold your own in a debate with me before you start calling me a staker. But nice job trying to punch above your weight.
Maybe start with some Dr. Seuss books first?
Go fuck yourself loser, Last time I debated you you got your ass handed to you by myself and multiple others with some idiotic argument you had months ago, and then you ran away like a little bitch because your fragile ego couldn't handle it.
Ever since then you run around taking potshots and running away again when I call out your childish acts. Do us all a favor and stop letting your insecure ego rule how you post on here. You're not the self-called expert you think you are. You're just another couch sitting putz like all of us without any special insight into what the Giants are doing.
If it is so vital to you to think you're important on here then you need much more help than what BBI can provide.
Now go away little boy.