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NFT: FF 10/27 Half way point to the playoffs

superspynyg : 10/27/2020 8:40 am
How are you all doing?

Thanks to Murray, Lockett and KC Def I blew out my opponent this week 170-65 for my 7th win. I am in first by by 2 games and have 40 points more than the next guy.

I am pretty much a lock for the playoffs. Plus I get CMC back next week.

my question going forward do you think of Mike Thomas going forward? WIll he be a fantasy value going forward of is this a lost season?
Thomas  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 8:55 am : link
and CmC should have about the same risk, no? Didn't both suffer high ankle sprains?

I’m not 100%  
beatrixkiddo : 10/27/2020 9:19 am : link
Sure on Thomas. Yes he is a beast of a player, but I think there are some behind the scenes things going on there and I don’t know what to expect. He appears upset with the team/coaching staff, not sure how that will affect him when he gets back.

I’ve been trying to sell one of my RBs for an upgrade at WR but am surprised no one is entertaining anything worthwhile. Some teams in my league have literally nothing at the position. I’m in a 12 team PPR league and have (Jones, Sanders, Taylor, Robinson, and Swift) been trying to sell one of Robinson or Swift to pair a better WR next to Julio maybe no one wants to give me an edge? Idk. It’s frustrating, although having that depth paid off this past week as I had to play Swift and Robins on who carried me to a win. Gonna just have to hope Green, Parker and AB can produce rest of way and Julio stays healthy.
I dont think they are at the same degree  
superspynyg : 10/27/2020 9:22 am : link
Thomas could have come back two weeks ago but punched his teammate then hurt his hamstring.

Looking for the long term. want to upgrade my wrs for playoffs.

Also looking at Julio.
As a Thomas owner I am fucking concerned. He fell to me in my draft  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/27/2020 9:23 am : link
and was stoked I was able to get him. Now Brees' diminishing arm strength is hitting the point where he's no longer a good QB. He still can throw in the box so I"m hoping whenever Thomas and the team can clean up their behind the scene issues he propels me to the fantasy panthatheon.
Currently 1st place at 6-1  
Mike in NY : 10/27/2020 9:54 am : link
2nd overall in points scored despite getting nothing from my 1st Round pick (Michael Thomas). Currently 3 games ahead of 7th Place (6 teams make playoffs)

My opponent had Justin Herbert, who accounted for nearly half of his points last week. I had Kyler Murray and Joe Burrow (Superflex league) to counteract that. Have two difficult weeks coming up as Murray and Burrow have their bye weeks in Weeks 8 and 9 respectively and my Week 8 opponent leads the league in points scored. Dalton getting concussed and losing his OL did not help as I will not be able to play a QB in my Superflex spot. 11 players scored above 30 points last week, 8 of them were QB's. The other 3 were Lockett, D. Adams, and Jeff Wilson Jr. 4 scored above 40 points, Lockett being the only non-QB.

Currently looking for at least one WR that can offer a little more consistency than Mike Williams if Thomas is going to miss more time and my other WR not on a bye, Devante Parker, has a crappy match-up Week 8 and it is unknown how the switch to Tua will change his production. I have 2 players I can drop (Williams and the K I picked up to cover for my regular one who was on a bye). Available at WR position are Brandon Aiyuk (with a nice match-up against Seattle), Sterling Shepard, Corey Davis, T.Y. Hilton, and Rashard Higgins. If I don't feel comfortable about Carlos Hyde's health I also have JaMychal Hasty available at RB (though with Conner, Swift, Ronald Jones II, and David Montgomery do I really need another RB).
Thomas is a huge ??? the rest of the season  
UConn4523 : 10/27/2020 10:05 am : link
something just isn't right there. Maybe they get passed it and he has a good 2H, but i'd operate under the assumption that he's going to either not play or have duds every other game.
I'm treading water at 4-3  
Someguy1978 : 10/27/2020 10:25 am : link
Losing Ekeler, Chubb and now Beckham has really hurt me. I have decent WR receiver depth, but my RBs depth is really thin.
My two most important leagues  
allstarjim : 10/27/2020 11:59 am : link
I improved to 5-2 in my keeper league, so right there in a playoff spot. This was the dream team, I have now lost Dak, Saquon, and Drake now (I question if he will be usable at all for the rest of this season), and worse yet, Zeke Elliott is a mess with a possible start of some guy named Dinucci next week. I don't even think I can start him unless Dalton is cleared and plays, and maybe not even then.

I'm doing well at WR with Hopkins, A.J. Brown, and Metcalf, and was fortunate to grab Tannehill with Bridgewater backing him up for now.

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do you think of Mike Thomas going forward? WIll he be a fantasy value going forward of is this a lost season?


In comment 15025955 pjcas18 said:
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and CmC should have about the same risk, no? Didn't both suffer high ankle sprains?


As for Michael Thomas, I'm hanging on and hanging in. I also drafted him in my other league in the first round. Sounds like he's recovered from the ankle sprain, but is now dealing with a hamstring. In this league, I did improve to 3-4 with a big win over Ronnie (somehow, Ronnie's Mahomes-Kelce connection fell flat this week and I am incredibly lucky), and now just 1 game out of a playoff spot with a logjam of teams at 4-3 (I am now 3-4).

Back to Thomas, if we are talking next year, I still like him. If Brees retires at the end of this season, something I think is very possible, they could easily bring back Jameis Winston, who would very likely re-sign with the Saints, and he'll only throw something on the order of 6000 yards in that dome (with 40 INTs but who cares, lol).
So  
allstarjim : 10/27/2020 12:25 pm : link
RB dilemma:

Here is what I have now: Zeke, Drake, Darrell Henderson, Mike Davis, Dobbins, and Saquon Barkley (IR).

Right?

Davis MIGHT be giving me one more final start in a nice matchup versus the Dolphins on Thursday night (please Matt Rhule, you don't want to throw CMC back in there on a short week!)

Then, I'm without Drake, without Davis, and Zeke is a big question mark. That leaves Darrell Henderson and J.K. Dobbins. FML.

Moreover, I was in talks to trade Zeke for Kamara (the Kamara owner can't keep him again). Due to the absolute suckitude of the Cowboys' situation and ineffectiveness of Zeke the last couple of weeks, that's definitely out the window, I wouldn't even bring it up right now.

The choices on the wire: The choices on the wire are Tevin Coleman, Wayne Gallman, Zack Moss, and Damien Harris.

Mark Ingram/Gus Edwards are both available but I just hate that backfield right now. I'm only hanging on to Dobbins to be a keeper for next year because I think he can be a superstar.

I think the clear add is Coleman, and with waiver priority 4 there is no guarantee I get him, and if I do, still hard to trust him with McKinnon there and Hasty impressing.

Harris looks pretty good, right? Gallman could have value if Freeman misses time, not sure about the severity of that ankle injury from last Thursday. Moss can't be trusted at all with Josh Allen being the TD vulture he is.

Sucks, I am 5-2 in this league, with a roster to start the season on paper that looked like an absolute juggernaut.
Man, I hate to gloat  
beatrixkiddo : 10/27/2020 12:54 pm : link
But I just made one of those trades that im never a benefactor of that tend to piss everyone in a league off. Just traded Swift and Slayton for ARob. My team is fucking stacked now, I don’t see how I don’t run away with the title. I love my player matchups FOS too.

QB: Herbert
WR: Jones, ARob, Green, Parker, AB
RB: Jones, Taylor, Sanders, Robinson
TE: Fant and Gesicki
Def: Bears
K: Gano
RE: Man, I hate to gloat  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15026253 beatrixkiddo said:
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But I just made one of those trades that im never a benefactor of that tend to piss everyone in a league off. Just traded Swift and Slayton for ARob. My team is fucking stacked now, I don’t see how I don’t run away with the title. I love my player matchups FOS too.

QB: Herbert
WR: Jones, ARob, Green, Parker, AB
RB: Jones, Taylor, Sanders, Robinson
TE: Fant and Gesicki
Def: Bears
K: Gano


Nice team, don't love Herbert (too small a sample IMO to trust him in the playoffs), your TE's are meh and your WR's are inconsistent/health risks

I'd trade a RB for either Kelce or Kittle or a #1 WR.

RE: RE: Man, I hate to gloat  
beatrixkiddo : 10/27/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 15026260 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15026253 beatrixkiddo said:


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But I just made one of those trades that im never a benefactor of that tend to piss everyone in a league off. Just traded Swift and Slayton for ARob. My team is fucking stacked now, I don’t see how I don’t run away with the title. I love my player matchups FOS too.

QB: Herbert
WR: Jones, ARob, Green, Parker, AB
RB: Jones, Taylor, Sanders, Robinson
TE: Fant and Gesicki
Def: Bears
K: Gano



Nice team, don't love Herbert (too small a sample IMO to trust him in the playoffs), your TE's are meh and your WR's are inconsistent/health risks

I'd trade a RB for either Kelce or Kittle or a #1 WR.


For 12 teams PPR, there isn’t a team with the depth I have now. Yeah TE I could improve but at what cost now, my RB depth has carried me so far. Last week I had to play my #4 and 5 RBs (Robinson and Swift) and they carried me to a win. Wouldn’t mind trading a WR for WR to anyone but so few teams want to deal with me cause I stand above them in the rankings. Was trying to grab K Allen but the owner won’t budge. Think I can work with what I have, AB is a real wildcard too. ROS schedules look really nice for a lot of my players. I’m higher on Herbert than most, kid looks tremendous and that team has to throw quite a bit. I don’t see that stopping. Maybe when Sanders returns and I can see him stay healthy I can shop Robinson for a top TE, idk Having all these workhorse RBs has paid dividends so far.
Your RB  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 1:18 pm : link
depth has carried you, but when not on bye weeks you are leaving RB quality on the bench. Unless you're worried about injury that's a waste.

I have a similar team with less RB depth, no WR1, but I like my TE and QB better.

I rode Boston Scott to a win this week, doesn't mean it's in my best interest to keep him rostered (obviously different due to injury, but you get the point).

QB: Mahomes
RB: Jacobs, Taylor, Sanders, J-Rob, Moss, Scott
WR: Allen, Moore, McLaurin, Fuller, Claypool, Fulgham, Mims
TE: Andrews, Engram
K: Koo
D/ST: Rams
RE: Your RB  
beatrixkiddo : 10/27/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15026269 pjcas18 said:
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depth has carried you, but when not on bye weeks you are leaving RB quality on the bench. Unless you're worried about injury that's a waste.

I have a similar team with less RB depth, no WR1, but I like my TE and QB better.

I rode Boston Scott to a win this week, doesn't mean it's in my best interest to keep him rostered (obviously different due to injury, but you get the point).

QB: Mahomes
RB: Jacobs, Taylor, Sanders, J-Rob, Moss, Scott
WR: Allen, Moore, McLaurin, Fuller, Claypool, Fulgham, Mims
TE: Andrews, Engram
K: Koo
D/ST: Rams


I know what you mean. Believe me I’ve been trying to shop players for weeks but no one would trade anything of value, workhorse RBs are the premium position, and no one was offering comparable value at WR for me to pull the trigger, until now.

I am totally fine keeping the 3 I have cause injuries are inevitable and picking the best 3 to play each week, they all have such great floors with the volume they get it just makes it so easy. WR I can now do the same and have a little insurance incase Julio re-injures or something. Would love a top flight TE but the teams that have them are very stubborn. That’s another position that is very volatile.
Post was too long before  
allstarjim : 10/27/2020 1:53 pm : link
Assuming I'm going to have to bench Zeke this week, and with Drake now out for several weeks and who may not have a job when he returns, I now have the following RBs:

Mike Davis (one more start, if any, before McCaffrey is back), Darrell Henderson, J.K. Dobbins, and the aforementioned Zeke.

What do I do with this on the wire: Tevin Coleman, Wayne Gallman, Zack Moss, James White and Damien Harris.

This is a standard league.

It's Coleman as the priority add, Damien Harris next? Do I even blow my priority on Harris? I'm thinking no.
Is Sony Michel  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 1:54 pm : link
on your waiver wire? How long is he out? If he's coming back and on waivers may be a good add.
He is on waivers  
allstarjim : 10/27/2020 2:27 pm : link
I'm going to try to sneak him on after he (hopefully) clears waivers and put him onto my COVID list. It would really suck if someone adds him before I can do that.
I benched Lockett for Will Fuller  
Heisenberg : 10/27/2020 2:34 pm : link
Luckily, I still won. Feels like I deserved to lose letting that incredible box score be on the bench.
Also  
allstarjim : 10/27/2020 2:38 pm : link
Assuming you guys have extra IR spots in your league for COVID, I have a situation and wondering if any of you are seeing similar things in your leagues.

So IR spots were increased, but we only have 1 IR spot to be used for non-COVID players. Still, a few times I have noticed people stashing two players on IR, neither with COVID, and using the new roster opening for a player.

This is something we discussed and I warned the league about (I am commish). Last week, an owner dropped Cooper Kupp, and another owner added him via waivers. I don't know if there were other claims or not, but seems probable.

This player had previously added Antonio Brown, and unbeknownst to me at the time, had added him to the RES spot as he is still on the suspended list, where he already has Austin Ekeler.

So the add for Kupp was made in a roster spot that shouldn't have been available to him without making an additional corresponding roster move.

Thank goodness he did not play Kupp this week and it hasn't caused any impact to a matchup, but today I took unprecedented action using my commish powers (I had previously warned I could do this). I dropped Kupp from his team, putting him back on waivers, and moved Brown off of the RES spot and back onto his roster.

I did text him but no reply, guy is my brother-in-law, lol. Ironically, weeks ago we had a vote to increase RES spot usage for any reason from 1 to 2 and the vote failed, and he voted AGAINST!

Anyway, I have never used my commish power to make a roster move on another team before, but felt that in this case, it was the only decision to be made. Anyone else feel differently? Was this an appropriate use of commish power?

FWIW, he is 2-5 in that league, so maybe that softens the blow that he is unlikely to make the playoff this year, regardless.
Who knows  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 3:44 pm : link
about stat corrections?

I lost this week by .25 points.

What are the grounds for stat change and when?

This is my 3rd loss, so I'm 4 - 3, 2nd most points now, and two of my losses were by less than 1 pt and in all three losses I had players on my bench that would have won the week for me. This week it was DJ Moore who was on my bench in favor of McLaurin, Keenan Allen, and Will Fuller.

RE: Who knows  
allstarjim : 10/27/2020 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15026380 pjcas18 said:
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about stat corrections?

I lost this week by .25 points.

What are the grounds for stat change and when?

This is my 3rd loss, so I'm 4 - 3, 2nd most points now, and two of my losses were by less than 1 pt and in all three losses I had players on my bench that would have won the week for me. This week it was DJ Moore who was on my bench in favor of McLaurin, Keenan Allen, and Will Fuller.


They should come out Wednesday or Thursday. If a stat correction applies to your matchup, many times it will be a 1-yard adjustment, amounting to a .1 pt difference in most leagues. The chances are very low your score will change unless you are inside of .1 pts diffferential, and even then the chances are pretty low.

Most this year was the addition of a sack earlier this season from 1 to 2 for the Minnesota Vikings DEF, resulting in a full point adjustment. Probably nobody had the Vikings defense then, though, lol.

I did see a few adjustments this year on the order of .2, a 2 yard scoring adjustment, but again, pretty rare.
Great I won't hold  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 5:04 pm : link
out hope. In fact I had none, down 19.25 points and only the Rams D left and they put up 19.

I just need a sack taken away from CLE (who had 4 sacks) or a sack added to the Rams (also 4 sacks).

Would you make this trade?

I get:
Austin Ekelar and Antonio Brown
I trade:
Denzel Mims, Zack Moss and a 4th round pick

I don't need the two players I'd trade but the two I'd get would be lottery tickets for the playoffs.

The owner is 2 - 5 and looking at next year.
RE: Great I won't hold  
Mike in NY : 10/27/2020 5:35 pm : link
In comment 15026470 pjcas18 said:
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out hope. In fact I had none, down 19.25 points and only the Rams D left and they put up 19.

I just need a sack taken away from CLE (who had 4 sacks) or a sack added to the Rams (also 4 sacks).

Would you make this trade?

I get:
Austin Ekelar and Antonio Brown
I trade:
Denzel Mims, Zack Moss and a 4th round pick

I don't need the two players I'd trade but the two I'd get would be lottery tickets for the playoffs.

The owner is 2 - 5 and looking at next year.


Keeper league? How would it handle if you had one extra draft pick? Some leagues that I know have that ability require same number of picks on each side (so usually someone will chuck in final pick).
Oh yeah  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 5:36 pm : link
I'd have to get a pick back from him - I just assumed a late round pick.

All pick trades have to even out and we can only trade up to 4 picks.
and yes  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 5:36 pm : link
keeper league. two keepers, must be drafted after round 4.
RE: and yes  
Mike in NY : 10/27/2020 5:41 pm : link
In comment 15026511 pjcas18 said:
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keeper league. two keepers, must be drafted after round 4.


Would you be keeping either of those 2? If Round 4 prevents you from keeping a player whereas Round 5 gives you keeper rights I am more inclined to gamble. That being said, I would look at who went between Round 4 and Round 5 pick this year to see if any worth missing out on.
RE: RE: and yes  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2020 6:04 pm : link
In comment 15026514 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15026511 pjcas18 said:


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keeper league. two keepers, must be drafted after round 4.



Would you be keeping either of those 2? If Round 4 prevents you from keeping a player whereas Round 5 gives you keeper rights I am more inclined to gamble. That being said, I would look at who went between Round 4 and Round 5 pick this year to see if any worth missing out on.


No, right now I'm probably keeping Chase Claypool (16th round - if he keeps proving worthy) and maybe Keenan Allen (5th round) or Terry McLaurin (7th round) or Will Fuller in the 10th round.

RE: Great I won't hold  
allstarjim : 10/28/2020 12:05 am : link
In comment 15026470 pjcas18 said:
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out hope. In fact I had none, down 19.25 points and only the Rams D left and they put up 19.

I just need a sack taken away from CLE (who had 4 sacks) or a sack added to the Rams (also 4 sacks).

Would you make this trade?

I get:
Austin Ekelar and Antonio Brown
I trade:
Denzel Mims, Zack Moss and a 4th round pick

I don't need the two players I'd trade but the two I'd get would be lottery tickets for the playoffs.

The owner is 2 - 5 and looking at next year.


Hard to say, but a returning Ekeler could result in a championship. I'd counter for a 5th going back but I'd accept the trade as offered.
I am 4-3 and borderline making the playoffs...  
EricJ : 10/28/2020 7:00 am : link
I need to win this weekend because the team I am playing is one game ahead of me. If I beat him, I will rank ahead due to total points scored.

I have been crushed by injuries and somehow have been able to patch together some wins. Lost Chubb, Mixon for a few games and now OBJ. I have been without Michael Thomas and now Godwin. My bench for this weekend would beat most teams in the league. See below

My starting lineup this weekend

QB Allen
RB Gio Bernard, James White
WR Robert Woods, Crowder
Flex Scotty Miller
TE Hunter Henry

My Bench

QB Minshew
RB Chubb, Mixon, Chase Edmonds, Hyde
WR Michael Thomas, Godwin (just dropped OBJ)
TE Jonnu Smith

I really hope Hyde can start on Sunday. Then, I can insert him in for James White. Malcolm Brown is on waivers but he cannot be trusted.

Currently stuck with shitty Engram as my TE  
Heisenberg : 10/29/2020 2:27 pm : link
I have Jacobs, James Robinson, David Johnson, Darrell Henderson and D'Andre Swift

Would you trade Swift for Mark Andrews?
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