like: Give us your best prospect and some players who aren't total garbage for a bad contract with a veteran who'll be done by the time the Knicks are contenders.
I don't even want Russell Westbrook unless he comes with a first-round pick. And even then only if the Knicks don't have to give up much.
And just like that they finally understand the NBA
Likely an abbreviated season with no fans and limited travel, which means a ton of games against Brooklyn, Boston, Toronto, Miami and Philly. We have no chance to be competitive - might as well punt.
is going to built with the draft picks and trades, and maybe a free agent later. I expect Leon and Wes to leave a max slot for 2021 just in case, but kudos to them if they accept reality. Good news is - unlike Steve Mills - our new regime will know what is realistic and what is not on the FA front.
I'll believe it when I see it. Weren't the Knicks relegated? I thought they were playing the in the G League this year. :-)
Seriously - hard core fan since the Howard Komives years. How many other Knicks fans around here go back that far. The NBA was like a 6th rate sport in those days - horse racing and boxing were much bigger.
Are multi year deals - westbrook, john wall, Chris Paul, tobias harris and blake Griffin. I wouldn’t want any of those. If walls contract was same length as Paul I would consider if it meant getting bradley beal and didn’t cost as much
and the Wiz were going to give you Beal you would take on that contract, lol. Im sure the Wiz would be dying to make that move. If im getting Bradley Beal i dont care how long Wall's contract is.
Also there are TONS of bad contracts in the NBA. Maybe not huge and bad like the players you mentioned but tons of guys making way more then they should. I dont think we need to be looking at it like we have to get lottery picks or bradley beal's to take on a bad contract. You can get future firsts, lottery ticket younger players, etc.. for taking on an ehh contract for a year or two.
Westbrook - I think (hope) he is not a possibility for all the reasons we are painfully aware of.
CP3 - While we cannot rule this out, we wouldn't get assets for taking on his contract (rather we would likely part with at least a Dallas #1).
Tobias Harris - quite an onerous contract. The compensation to NYK would have to be significant. I don't see this happening.
Porzingis - just kidding.
Mike Conley - strikes me as a real possibility. Would the 23rd pick be reasonable compensation for absorbing 1 year, $31mm? If so, I'd do this in a minute.
Andrew Wiggins - I suspect Thibs would have a valued dissenting opinion on this guy. What a shame that this player goes thru the motions despite all that talent. If Thibs had a surprising belief that AW could increase his work ethic and develop some team first attitude, they could really execute a great trade offer i.e. 8 + Frank for 2 + AW, but alas I don't believe a word of what I am typing about this as a possibility.
Others of possible interest: Hield, Horford, Barnes, Fornier, Gordon, Turner, Lavine
it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How does Kira compare to De'Aaron Fox? I know they both have unbelievable speed on the court. I ask because Scott Perry was the one who drafted Fox so I wonder if he sees something similar in Lewis.
it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How does Kira compare to De'Aaron Fox? I know they both have unbelievable speed on the court. I ask because Scott Perry was the one who drafted Fox so I wonder if he sees something similar in Lewis.
That's a great question. I view Fox as more explosive especially beating people off the dribble and finishing at the rim. He's also lefty which has his advantages. Lewis reminds me of Kenny Anderson in the way he moves. Incredibly fast but long and smooth in achieving that speed. He is also a far better shooter than either Fox or Anderson. Much like Fox, Lewis will need to add muscle weight.
it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
Kira is the guy I want in the draft too. He is the one that most fits the mold of recent players that were picked towards the middle/back half of the lottery and ended up being young stars. If there is going to be a guy like Booker, Murray, SGA in this draft then Lewis to me is most likely.
it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How does Kira compare to De'Aaron Fox? I know they both have unbelievable speed on the court. I ask because Scott Perry was the one who drafted Fox so I wonder if he sees something similar in Lewis.
He's definitely not as good a prospect as Fox, who went 5th in a much better draft. Not nearly as strong a leaper, but they have similar frames and Lewis is just as fast in a straight line. Fox hasn't really developed as a distributor though, and Lewis already is at 6 assists per game despite having a far inferior supporting cast than Fox did at Kentucky.
space for years going back to the early days of Phil, but whatever. I do wonder if this is just a half-assed smokescreen, i.e. signaling to OKC that CP3 is not our only plan....or to agents of players we might be targeting.
The best team possible through the draft, then add pieces that fit through free agency, if a star becomes available at the right time then strike, but build a core team at least, chasing star players has not worked, the Knicks built a nice team then chased Carmelo and destroyed the core of the team for one player, and never recovered. There are 2 players that were worthy of doing that for, Lebron and Jordan. There are no shortcuts.
it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How would you feel about this roster:
PG: CP3, Kira Lewis @8, Jared Harper
SG: Desmond Bane @27, Frank Ntilikina, Reggie Bullock
SF: RJ Barrett, Iggy Brazdeikas, Robert Woodard @38
PF: Julius Randle (whose warts are mitigated with the actual lead guards), Harry Giles 1 year 8mm deal, Kenny Wooten
C: Mitchell Robinson, Taj Gibson, Willie Cauley Stein 1 year 5mm deal
it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How would you feel about this roster:
PG: CP3, Kira Lewis @8, Jared Harper
SG: Desmond Bane @27, Frank Ntilikina, Reggie Bullock
SF: RJ Barrett, Iggy Brazdeikas, Robert Woodard @38
PF: Julius Randle (whose warts are mitigated with the actual lead guards), Harry Giles 1 year 8mm deal, Kenny Wooten
C: Mitchell Robinson, Taj Gibson, Willie Cauley Stein 1 year 5mm deal
I think that's a huge step in the right direction. Would love to move Randle in a Paul deal to clear some more cap, but not sure if that's doable.
want to "be good" soon, which I actually agree with. They have a a superstar and a solid little core. You don't want Young looking to leave and #6 in a bad draft isn't exactly a major asset. If someone is willing to give up a good player to add to that I think it makes sense for them. Their record is deceiving given the roster.
Or even if he is, is there a superstar you want to build your team around less? Extremely ball dominant, needs to run the offense, poor defender, takes wild shots. He is basically the argument against taking LaMelo if you think that's LaMelo's ceiling.
Or even if he is, is there a superstar you want to build your team around less? Extremely ball dominant, needs to run the offense, poor defender, takes wild shots. He is basically the argument against taking LaMelo if you think that's LaMelo's ceiling.
He's flawed but I think the same could have been said about Booker the first few seasons. Is Booker a superstar? To me, that's a yes pretty easily. Young 23.9 PER this year (with very litle help), through 2 NBA seasons 23.6, 9.3 assists, 4.3 rebounds. His shot % improved across the board. He wouldn't be my first pick in building a team but he's going into his age 23 season...coming off a season where he averaged 30! and 9. So yes, he's a superstar unless your superstar range is only the tier 1 like Lebron and Leonard.
That's my point. Bilas had Okoro as his pick for Golden State at 2. Whether people agree with him, it shows how this draft is a weird one and someone like Lewis could go as high as 5 or 6 or as late as 14-15 and nobody will be shocked.
because the rest of the team is ehh except collins. An ELITE shooter like young can fit with anyone which really helps you build a team. If he isnt a superstar he is pretty close.
because the rest of the team is ehh except collins. An ELITE shooter like young can fit with anyone which really helps you build a team. If he isnt a superstar he is pretty close.
I don't think that's WHY he's ball dominant. I think that's just his playstyle.
The counting stats are great, always will be. But he's a poor defender and I could see him struggling to fit into a more free flowing offense. My only point is that out of all of the guys that are considered on his tier, he's probably the one I would want the least.
I always thought we'd be better positioned to helping a team get CP3, for example, than getting CP3. You could see a scenario where the Knicks take Horford and assets to facilitate CP3 to PHI, for example.
this is great news. We have at best a #2 and #3, at BEST. No shot without a legit #1 player we get a big FA signing and we need to just amass picks and assets to maximize our chances there. Signing free agents that increase our wins but not to even being respectable is by far the dumbest way to go, and something we have pursued almost exclusively for as long as I can remember
RE: The Knicks are well suited to be enablers for big trades this year
I always thought we'd be better positioned to helping a team get CP3, for example, than getting CP3. You could see a scenario where the Knicks take Horford and assets to facilitate CP3 to PHI, for example.
Hard to see a scenario where Horford makes sense, regardless of the assets coming back to us. He's already 34....and still has 2 years at big money guaranteed with a partial guarantee in year three.
Yeah the argument seems centered around this year though, possible they could take on a salary that clears up 2021 room too that is a more appealing deal. Teams definitely like to get more out in front of these deals sometimes so they aren't ransomed at the least minute
Rockets hire Stephen Silas as head coach, per Woj.
But I just don't see a huge market for this. Maybe they are a 3rd team to facilitate a trade or a team looking to duck the luxury tax. But the whole league knows how valuable picks now are and how good the 2021 draft is. Sadly there was a huge market for this last offseason that the Knicks passed on.
Just look what Memphis did. Took on Iguodola for a 2024 1st from GSW and then flipped him for Justice Winslow. Would you trade Bobby Portis for Winslow and that 1st round pick?
But I just don't see a huge market for this. Maybe they are a 3rd team to facilitate a trade or a team looking to duck the luxury tax. But the whole league knows how valuable picks now are and how good the 2021 draft is. Sadly there was a huge market for this last offseason that the Knicks passed on.
Just look what Memphis did. Took on Iguodola for a 2024 1st from GSW and then flipped him for Justice Winslow. Would you trade Bobby Portis for Winslow and that 1st round pick?
their "strategy" last summer of loading up on vets on short term deals last summer was first guessed as dumb by a bunch of us here. Mills simply had no business running a team. We're not the Lakers where stars will flock here regardless of how inept the team is run. Let's hope the new regime is willing to be creative with cap space.
love to find a way to get into the back half of the lotto.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
love to find a way to get into the back half of the lotto.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
I think there is a 0% chance you get the 15th pick for DSJ. He's been a complete disaster. They almost certainly are hoping he's a depreciated asset they looked into for a 2nd rounder or another disappointing player swap.
love to find a way to get into the back half of the lotto.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
I think there is a 0% chance you get the 15th pick for DSJ. He's been a complete disaster. They almost certainly are hoping he's a depreciated asset they looked into for a 2nd rounder or another disappointing player swap.
It would be funny if the Bucks sent back the first rounder they got for Brogdon.
Fully expect Oladipo to be a Buck. Lots of noise there. If I were them I would be targeting CP3.
Sounds like Gobert is getting shopped heavily. It will seemingly have to be a win now team that thinks he puts them over the top. But he's on an expiring. Would you have any interest for the Knicks?
love to find a way to get into the back half of the lotto.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
I think there is a 0% chance you get the 15th pick for DSJ. He's been a complete disaster. They almost certainly are hoping he's a depreciated asset they looked into for a 2nd rounder or another disappointing player swap.
I'd take a Magic practice jersey and a ham sandwich for DSJ. Awful player. All that athletic ability and all he is is a dunk contest guy. Terrible shot, facilitator, defender, teammate.
Give me 2 things 1) athletes. I can teach to play defense. 2) shooters. You have to be able to shoot the basketball. That’s it. If you can’t do both, move on to the next guy.
but I would love a 50-game season for the Knicks. Throw the young guys out there to develop and it’ll be over in the blink of an eye. Get right to the 2021 draft and see what kind of young talent we have.
but I would love a 50-game season for the Knicks. Throw the young guys out there to develop and it’ll be over in the blink of an eye. Get right to the 2021 draft and see what kind of young talent we have.
50 game season would rollback the cap way to much..
If players insist on MLK day start, the nba will only offer a 50 game season because the tv partners do not want to get in the way of the olympics
unless something changes drastically in the next few months, I’d be shocked if the Olympics went on. The networks could screw themselves if that’s their stance
I don't even want Russell Westbrook unless he comes with a first-round pick. And even then only if the Knicks don't have to give up much.
For what? No Free Agent is signing here
Seriously - hard core fan since the Howard Komives years. How many other Knicks fans around here go back that far. The NBA was like a 6th rate sport in those days - horse racing and boxing were much bigger.
Also there are TONS of bad contracts in the NBA. Maybe not huge and bad like the players you mentioned but tons of guys making way more then they should. I dont think we need to be looking at it like we have to get lottery picks or bradley beal's to take on a bad contract. You can get future firsts, lottery ticket younger players, etc.. for taking on an ehh contract for a year or two.
Haha well done
CP3 - While we cannot rule this out, we wouldn't get assets for taking on his contract (rather we would likely part with at least a Dallas #1).
Tobias Harris - quite an onerous contract. The compensation to NYK would have to be significant. I don't see this happening.
Porzingis - just kidding.
Mike Conley - strikes me as a real possibility. Would the 23rd pick be reasonable compensation for absorbing 1 year, $31mm? If so, I'd do this in a minute.
Andrew Wiggins - I suspect Thibs would have a valued dissenting opinion on this guy. What a shame that this player goes thru the motions despite all that talent. If Thibs had a surprising belief that AW could increase his work ethic and develop some team first attitude, they could really execute a great trade offer i.e. 8 + Frank for 2 + AW, but alas I don't believe a word of what I am typing about this as a possibility.
Others of possible interest: Hield, Horford, Barnes, Fornier, Gordon, Turner, Lavine
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How does Kira compare to De'Aaron Fox? I know they both have unbelievable speed on the court. I ask because Scott Perry was the one who drafted Fox so I wonder if he sees something similar in Lewis.
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it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How does Kira compare to De'Aaron Fox? I know they both have unbelievable speed on the court. I ask because Scott Perry was the one who drafted Fox so I wonder if he sees something similar in Lewis.
That's a great question. I view Fox as more explosive especially beating people off the dribble and finishing at the rim. He's also lefty which has his advantages. Lewis reminds me of Kenny Anderson in the way he moves. Incredibly fast but long and smooth in achieving that speed. He is also a far better shooter than either Fox or Anderson. Much like Fox, Lewis will need to add muscle weight.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
Kira is the guy I want in the draft too. He is the one that most fits the mold of recent players that were picked towards the middle/back half of the lottery and ended up being young stars. If there is going to be a guy like Booker, Murray, SGA in this draft then Lewis to me is most likely.
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it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How does Kira compare to De'Aaron Fox? I know they both have unbelievable speed on the court. I ask because Scott Perry was the one who drafted Fox so I wonder if he sees something similar in Lewis.
He's definitely not as good a prospect as Fox, who went 5th in a much better draft. Not nearly as strong a leaper, but they have similar frames and Lewis is just as fast in a straight line. Fox hasn't really developed as a distributor though, and Lewis already is at 6 assists per game despite having a far inferior supporting cast than Fox did at Kentucky.
In fact he shot 43.5% on spot up opportunities from 3 last year, which is a great indicator, and 36% overall. Fox shot .246 in his year at Kentucky.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How would you feel about this roster:
PG: CP3, Kira Lewis @8, Jared Harper
SG: Desmond Bane @27, Frank Ntilikina, Reggie Bullock
SF: RJ Barrett, Iggy Brazdeikas, Robert Woodard @38
PF: Julius Randle (whose warts are mitigated with the actual lead guards), Harry Giles 1 year 8mm deal, Kenny Wooten
C: Mitchell Robinson, Taj Gibson, Willie Cauley Stein 1 year 5mm deal
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it earlier, but I couldn't care less about the 2021 FA class. No one is coming here with Barrett and Robinson as the core.
Would much rather make smart trades, draft well and there will be an opportunity down the line to strike.
I think trading for Paul is still a step in the right direction, and if it only takes Knox + a Dallas 1st to do it, that's a no brainer to me.
I also have come full circle and think I want Kira Lewis in the draft. Probably the best PG athlete, highly productive, still young, a two way player, a plus shooter and has just a ton of translatable skills.
How would you feel about this roster:
PG: CP3, Kira Lewis @8, Jared Harper
SG: Desmond Bane @27, Frank Ntilikina, Reggie Bullock
SF: RJ Barrett, Iggy Brazdeikas, Robert Woodard @38
PF: Julius Randle (whose warts are mitigated with the actual lead guards), Harry Giles 1 year 8mm deal, Kenny Wooten
C: Mitchell Robinson, Taj Gibson, Willie Cauley Stein 1 year 5mm deal
I think that's a huge step in the right direction. Would love to move Randle in a Paul deal to clear some more cap, but not sure if that's doable.
When options may be declined or picked up?
Free agency? I suspect its shortly following the draft.
Draft is Nov 18
When options may be declined or picked up?
Free agency? I suspect its shortly following the draft.
Draft is Nov 18
There was a report yesterday free agency would start 48 hours after the draft ends...
December 1st start of training camps..
Trades can start once the cap is set, hoping by end of the week..
No way Knicks take Lewis or Maxey at 8
Maybe if available at 27
Neither one of these guys are top 10 talents
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have worked out Lewis. I expect the pick to be Lewis or Maxey if Hayes isn't there.
No way Knicks take Lewis or Maxey at 8
Maybe if available at 27
Neither one of these guys are top 10 talents
Prepare to be proven wrong. Kira Lewis is going lottery and the guys available 8-14 are all viewed as roughly similar talents. Depends on who you ask.
4th, 8th, 7th and 15th... so....
Or even if he is, is there a superstar you want to build your team around less? Extremely ball dominant, needs to run the offense, poor defender, takes wild shots. He is basically the argument against taking LaMelo if you think that's LaMelo's ceiling.
Most of these guys the fans talk about scare me to death
Or even if he is, is there a superstar you want to build your team around less? Extremely ball dominant, needs to run the offense, poor defender, takes wild shots. He is basically the argument against taking LaMelo if you think that's LaMelo's ceiling.
He's flawed but I think the same could have been said about Booker the first few seasons. Is Booker a superstar? To me, that's a yes pretty easily. Young 23.9 PER this year (with very litle help), through 2 NBA seasons 23.6, 9.3 assists, 4.3 rebounds. His shot % improved across the board. He wouldn't be my first pick in building a team but he's going into his age 23 season...coming off a season where he averaged 30! and 9. So yes, he's a superstar unless your superstar range is only the tier 1 like Lebron and Leonard.
That's my point. Bilas had Okoro as his pick for Golden State at 2. Whether people agree with him, it shows how this draft is a weird one and someone like Lewis could go as high as 5 or 6 or as late as 14-15 and nobody will be shocked.
I don't think that's WHY he's ball dominant. I think that's just his playstyle.
The counting stats are great, always will be. But he's a poor defender and I could see him struggling to fit into a more free flowing offense. My only point is that out of all of the guys that are considered on his tier, he's probably the one I would want the least.
Hard to see a scenario where Horford makes sense, regardless of the assets coming back to us. He's already 34....and still has 2 years at big money guaranteed with a partial guarantee in year three.
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Yeah the argument seems centered around this year though, possible they could take on a salary that clears up 2021 room too that is a more appealing deal. Teams definitely like to get more out in front of these deals sometimes so they aren't ransomed at the least minute
Morey is trading Embiid before Simmons
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have worked out Lewis. I expect the pick to be Lewis or Maxey if Hayes isn't there.
No way Knicks take Lewis or Maxey at 8
Maybe if available at 27
Neither one of these guys are top 10 talents
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Just look what Memphis did. Took on Iguodola for a 2024 1st from GSW and then flipped him for Justice Winslow. Would you trade Bobby Portis for Winslow and that 1st round pick?
Just look what Memphis did. Took on Iguodola for a 2024 1st from GSW and then flipped him for Justice Winslow. Would you trade Bobby Portis for Winslow and that 1st round pick?
their "strategy" last summer of loading up on vets on short term deals last summer was first guessed as dumb by a bunch of us here. Mills simply had no business running a team. We're not the Lakers where stars will flock here regardless of how inept the team is run. Let's hope the new regime is willing to be creative with cap space.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
I think there is a 0% chance you get the 15th pick for DSJ. He's been a complete disaster. They almost certainly are hoping he's a depreciated asset they looked into for a 2nd rounder or another disappointing player swap.
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love to find a way to get into the back half of the lotto.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
I think there is a 0% chance you get the 15th pick for DSJ. He's been a complete disaster. They almost certainly are hoping he's a depreciated asset they looked into for a 2nd rounder or another disappointing player swap.
I think you're probably right. Maybe DSJ and 27
Fully expect Oladipo to be a Buck. Lots of noise there. If I were them I would be targeting CP3.
Sounds like Gobert is getting shopped heavily. It will seemingly have to be a win now team that thinks he puts them over the top. But he's on an expiring. Would you have any interest for the Knicks?
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love to find a way to get into the back half of the lotto.
If we take Kira Lewis at 8, I bet we could nab one of Vassell or Nesmith at 13 14 or 15. There was some talk of the Magic being interested in DSJ. I'd do DSJ for 15 right now.
I think there is a 0% chance you get the 15th pick for DSJ. He's been a complete disaster. They almost certainly are hoping he's a depreciated asset they looked into for a 2nd rounder or another disappointing player swap.
I'd take a Magic practice jersey and a ham sandwich for DSJ. Awful player. All that athletic ability and all he is is a dunk contest guy. Terrible shot, facilitator, defender, teammate.
Killian Hays (KH)
Tyrese Halliburton (TH)
Cole Anthony (CA)
Kira Lewis (KL)
Tyrese Maxey (TM)
I'd rank them as follows:
-Size/length: LB, TH, KH, KL, TM, CA
-Speed: KL, CA, TM, TH, LB, KH
-Quickness: CA, KL, TM, LB, KH, TH
-Jumping ability: CA, KL, KH, LB, TH, TM
-Shooting: KL, TH, CA, TM, KH, LB
-Offensive instincts: KH, LB, TH, KL, TM, CA
-Defensive instincts: TH, CA, TM, KH, KL, LB
-Passing acumen: LB, KH, TH, KL, CA, TM
-Intangibles: TH, TM, KL, KH, LB, CA
Average 1 if top in all categories, 6 if last in all:
KL = 2.89
TH = 3.00
CA = 3.56
KH = 3.67
LB = 3.78
TM = 4.11
That's a very flawed aggregate analysis. In truth, I'd rank the 6 guys as follows:
KH
KL
LB
TH
CA
TM
Apparently he's come off as aloof and lacking much personality vs. jerky.
50 game season would rollback the cap way to much..