Assuming this will be the final year of the Dave Gettleman era is it fair to think a new GM will sell Saquon to the highest bidder and get more draft picks for a rebuild?
I know it sucks but this roster is in need of a lot of talent and the only way that happens is hitting on picks. I think paying Barkley a huge contract after next season is not going to help this franchise long term.
What are we thinking? Have we seen Saquons last game in blue?
I think they keep him but I'd say it's doubtful he gets a 2nd contract unless he goes ballistic. Likely he will be replaced with a cheaper option.
Wouldn't the Giants be a contender if he did that?
Aside from him this is a starless team.
The Giants organisation will not bail on him due to that horrible injury, so I doubt he'll be traded.....ever.
I would float some trial balloons right now to see if there is any interest. And if you get someone to bite with a reasonable offer - not sure what that is, btw - then you pull that trigger.
If he's mostly recovered and is back to at least 95% of SB, circa 2018, then you unload him in 2021 - like Terps said.
But there is risk in the unknown and what the rebuilt SB is going to look like...
What is playing against him is that there a lot of teams who view the position like many of us do here: RBs grow on trees. So why give up picks/cash when you can just walk over to the nearby RB Store and find a few...
I think they keep him but I'd say it's doubtful he gets a 2nd contract unless he goes ballistic. Likely he will be replaced with a cheaper option.
His value can absolutely get lower - there's a chance (I don't think it's a good chance) but there's a chance he's not anywhere near the same explosive player he was prior to the injury.
In that line of thinking -his value may actually never be higher than it is now.
Now that's a plan.
Fire Gettleman now. Hope Atlanta hires Gettleman. And off to the ATL SB goes... ;)
Ha, meant next year and the year after. I guess subconsciously I've moved on from this year....
hahahahah - that's probably a fact.
Truth lies somewhere in the middle.
With that said,who knows what's going with Saquon,he might be more celebrity than football player these days.
Aside from him this is a starless team.
The Giants organisation will not bail on him due to that horrible injury, so I doubt he'll be traded.....ever.
What kind of response is that?
You know the Packers, Patriots, Seahawks, and Chiefs can't play every Monday night.
yes not doing anything like setting ego aside and own up to mistakes and instead double down on them is a Giants thing to do. By the looks of things the Jets will be the #1 franchise in NY again soon. (and for many years to come.)
I don't know the answer - but, the correct answer is a key to expediting progress moving forward.
Aside from him this is a starless team.
The Giants organisation will not bail on him due to that horrible injury, so I doubt he'll be traded.....ever.
marquee
Truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I agree. And timing is everything especially when buying/selling.
You're an angry dude.
But, the OL is a bit of a puzzle to me - especially in light of some recent critiques of Thomas' development.
This is what should happen. Also, look for a RB to be drafted as well around Rd 3.
Just need a decent GM to arrange both.
But, the OL is a bit of a puzzle to me - especially in light of some recent critiques of Thomas' development.
bc, I agree with your strategy, I'm looking ER at the top and need at least one WR from early in the draft. Given how young the roster is, I'd think they pick up another OL or two. Plus, prospects to push the OGs, a C, and DB depth.
The 2020 draft shows how difficult it can be to find difference makers at LB.
Truth lies somewhere in the middle.
^This.
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If it were to happen it would be after next season when he has had a full season to showcase
This is what should happen. Also, look for a RB to be drafted as well around Rd 3.
Just need a decent GM to arrange both.
As is our wont, we still need a lot. And only having five picks isn't going to getting us closer to solving that "a lot" problem.
That's why we need to have a clearance sale...
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I'm thinking the answer lies in upgrading LB corps re: pass rushers in the draft (Rousseau?). That and some wr talent. That's going to happen in the draft. That and making a decision about Tomlinson or Williams.
But, the OL is a bit of a puzzle to me - especially in light of some recent critiques of Thomas' development.
bc, I agree with your strategy, I'm looking ER at the top and need at least one WR from early in the draft. Given how young the roster is, I'd think they pick up another OL or two. Plus, prospects to push the OGs, a C, and DB depth.
The 2020 draft shows how difficult it can be to find difference makers at LB.
... OL prospects to push the OGs, a C ...
Aside from him this is a starless team.
The Giants organisation will not bail on him due to that horrible injury, so I doubt he'll be traded.....ever.
I was wondering why the NFL schedulers opted to showcase the Giants twice this year.
Well, those who prescribe to the don't use premium assets on a tailback aren't going away on this one. Extending his contract after he's healthy will extend their frustration.
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And free up that money toward the cap. They won't anyway. They'll just pretend they can still win w/ these guys and so will everyone else. Despite all evidence to the contrary.
You're an angry dude.
You forgot irretrievably stupid
Yup. Regardless of your opinion if the pick itself, he’s still going to be here. And I’d be shocked if he didn’t get a second contract too. Teams don’t take a RB at #2 and then not pay him. That decision is made clear by drafting him at #2.
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If it were to happen it would be after next season when he has had a full season to showcase
This is what should happen. Also, look for a RB to be drafted as well around Rd 3.
Just need a decent GM to arrange both.
As is our wont, we still need a lot. And only having five picks isn't going to getting us closer to solving that "a lot" problem.
That's why we need to have a clearance sale...
Should be dealing away (almost) anybody. Have no idea what they are waiting on.
Smells like a GM acting like a desperate moron yet again.
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extremely funny to me how half of BBI has already bailed on Saquon Barkley. You guys are out of your minds.
Well, those who prescribe to the don't use premium assets on a tailback aren't going away on this one. Extending his contract after he's healthy will extend their frustration.
Ya' think?
It was never about the talent. If there is no such thing as a salary cap, it's a no brainer pick. But RB is so de-valued over the years that barkley was instantly one of the top 5 paid RBs in the league upon being drafted.
We have seen what he can do, we have also seen what he can't do behind a shit offesnive line. The challenge with a RB is that they need a line to be succesful where if you spend top 5 picks on DE, CB, LB, these positions are more naturally set-up where the player by themselves can have an impact without supporting pieces.
Teams that have good lines or offesnive philosophies have taken a plug and play appraoch at RB which allows them spend resources elsewhere which has a better net effect on making the team better.
I would love to see what Barkely can do with the talent that Zeke had around him a few years ago, but you have to ask yourself, does giving Barkely a big second contract help the team as much if those dollars can be used for other positions and we have a lesser talent at RB. Is the sum of the parts greater than the individual RB drop-off? That's what it has always been about.
Right, Saquon is a game-changer. Just need the QB to play better, several new pieces on the OLO, a TE that can catch and some younger receivers.
Anything else on the offense needed to help Barkley show his game changing ability in your view?