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2021 FA Spotrac Who do you want?

Thegratefulhead : 10/28/2020 12:58 pm
I want our ERs to come from the draft. I want them to grab a few, like they did in 2020 for the OL. I want the best ER in the draft with our first pick unless DJ bombs the rest of the year, then I want Lawrence or Fields. Really warming up to Fields.

I see a few WR and TEs that would make sense at the right price. Jones is accurate, focus on hands. Hunter Henry would cost more than I would like but he can fucking block and catch. I like that in a TE and it has been MISSING here for a while. JuJu would look good in Blue and should not get OBJ money.

Anyway, what are your thoughts?
2021 Free Agents - ( New Window )
Henry  
UGADawgs7 : 10/28/2020 1:07 pm : link
As good as he is, his injuries are very worrisome.
RE: Henry  
Thegratefulhead : 10/28/2020 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15027297 UGADawgs7 said:
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As good as he is, his injuries are very worrisome.
Maybe that will keep the price tag from being ridiculous.
If we don't have the 1st pick  
HoodieGelo : 10/28/2020 1:43 pm : link
Micah Parsons is #1 on my wishlist.
In regards to the actual post  
HoodieGelo : 10/28/2020 1:46 pm : link
though, I agree I like Henry
...  
Capt. Don : 10/28/2020 2:00 pm : link
Chris Godwin (I like Golladay much better but I think he will be re-signed)
Jonnu Smith
Chidobe Awuzie
Bud Dupree/Leonard Floyd (1 year deal)
Hassan Reddick
re-sign...  
Capt. Don : 10/28/2020 2:07 pm : link
Logan Ryan
Dalvin Tomlinson
Fackrell if Reddick isnt signed.
Austin Johnson
Graham Gano
Gallman
RE: re-sign...  
LBH15 : 10/28/2020 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15027360 Capt. Don said:
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Logan Ryan
Dalvin Tomlinson
Fackrell if Reddick isnt signed.
Austin Johnson
Graham Gano
Gallman


I am good with this list too.
.  
jerseygiant : 10/28/2020 2:11 pm : link
RB: Jamaal Williams

WR: Keelan Cole/Demarcus Robinson + Draft one in 2nd or 3rd

DL: Dalvin + Reclamation project (Charles Harris/Taco Charlton)

LB: Bud Dupree (if not him, Shaq Barrett) + Fackrell + Jayon Brown

DB: Logan Ryan + Mike Hilton

Draft -- Sewell/Parsons in the 1st, WR and CB in 2nd and 3rd
RE: .  
Thegratefulhead : 10/28/2020 2:28 pm : link
In comment 15027365 jerseygiant said:
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RB: Jamaal Williams

WR: Keelan Cole/Demarcus Robinson + Draft one in 2nd or 3rd

DL: Dalvin + Reclamation project (Charles Harris/Taco Charlton)

LB: Bud Dupree (if not him, Shaq Barrett) + Fackrell + Jayon Brown

DB: Logan Ryan + Mike Hilton

Draft -- Sewell/Parsons in the 1st, WR and CB in 2nd and 3rd
Not bad at all
No A level expenses  
Go Terps : 10/28/2020 2:38 pm : link
I'd look at

- KR Cordarelle Patterson
- WR Curtis Samuel
- TE Gerald Everett
- DT Austin Johnson (retain)
- CB Crevon LeBlanc
- QB Nick Mullens
- QB Tyrod Taylor
- QB Josh Dobbs
Cam Robinson  
Platos : 10/28/2020 3:00 pm : link
maybe he's better suited at guard? could be cheap too
RE: No A level expenses  
Thegratefulhead : 10/28/2020 3:16 pm : link
In comment 15027389 Go Terps said:
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I'd look at

- KR Cordarelle Patterson
- WR Curtis Samuel
- TE Gerald Everett
- DT Austin Johnson (retain)
- CB Crevon LeBlanc
- QB Nick Mullens
- QB Tyrod Taylor
- QB Josh Dobbs
I am solid on the top 4. I like Mullens too. I almost included Patterson. The guy makes plays. Retain Johnson:YUP
RE: Cam Robinson  
Thegratefulhead : 10/28/2020 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15027410 Platos said:
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maybe he's better suited at guard? could be cheap too
I missed him and yes he could be a mauler at guard.
Awuzie  
Reb8thVA : 10/28/2020 3:23 pm : link
and any other quality wide out.


Build through the draft from there
I'd look at...  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 4:04 pm : link
WRs: Alan Lazard (a bit of a break out in GB going on) Kendrick Bourne (big target, tough), and Nelson Agholor (seen some very nice players with the Raiders...maybe the lights are going on finally...).

Corner: Kevin King - big fan of his out of Washington, which has become a "Corner U" for prospects. I think Green Bay has one of the better corner pairs in the NFL along Alexander.

T: Always been a fan of Ronnie Staley. May command be dollars, but I think he's a top 5-8 T in the league.

C/G: Austin Blythe

RBs: Malcolm Brown and Philip Lindsey. Lindsey is sneaky good, but may want a bigger role somewhere else. Brown is a tough short yardage guy.
I cant imagine anything less likely than...  
Capt. Don : 10/28/2020 4:07 pm : link
Ronnie Stanley being available.
I know...  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 4:13 pm : link
just dreaming a bit... ;)
We need a #2 CB  
MtDizzle : 10/28/2020 4:15 pm : link
to play along JB. Sherman is long in the tooth and DJ Hayden is underwhelming. I don’t see many options. First and foremost The Giants need a pass rush and waves of them.
RE: No A level expenses  
NoGainDayne : 10/28/2020 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15027389 Go Terps said:
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I'd look at

- KR Cordarelle Patterson
- WR Curtis Samuel
- TE Gerald Everett
- DT Austin Johnson (retain)
- CB Crevon LeBlanc
- QB Nick Mullens
- QB Tyrod Taylor
- QB Josh Dobbs


Like this list but I would not bring in a backup unless you can get one of these guys on a real bargain (i'd say $6M or less)

IMO you take a QB this year in the draft, any team that isn't developing a backup on a rookie contract IMO is not using their assets well. Love what Philly did this year with Hurts. Especially if you can work them into certain formations right away and they offer different skills than your current QB it's a great use of draft capital IMO.
We have five picks...  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 4:32 pm : link
in the 2021 draft. If Jones is deemed the guy - still - you can't use any of those five on a QB. NFW.
RE: I know...  
Capt. Don : 10/28/2020 4:34 pm : link
In comment 15027487 bw in dc said:
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just dreaming a bit... ;)


From your keyboard to God's ears - I would be all in.
RE: I'd look at...  
Thegratefulhead : 10/28/2020 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15027458 bw in dc said:
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WRs: Alan Lazard (a bit of a break out in GB going on) Kendrick Bourne (big target, tough), and Nelson Agholor (seen some very nice players with the Raiders...maybe the lights are going on finally...).

Corner: Kevin King - big fan of his out of Washington, which has become a "Corner U" for prospects. I think Green Bay has one of the better corner pairs in the NFL along Alexander.

T: Always been a fan of Ronnie Staley. May command be dollars, but I think he's a top 5-8 T in the league.

C/G: Austin Blythe

RBs: Malcolm Brown and Philip Lindsey. Lindsey is sneaky good, but may want a bigger role somewhere else. Brown is a tough short yardage guy.
Love Ronnie, can't see us doing that yet. Lindsey is very good. Like him as a player.
bw well I don't think Jones is the guy  
NoGainDayne : 10/28/2020 4:38 pm : link
hence my suggestion.

QB might not make sense where we pick but i'd rather give a guy a chance that has some shot at being QB of the future than someone we just have as a backup.

IMO the only time you should spend resources on a backup QB is if you have a great QB on a lower priced deal and have super bowl aspirations ala Nick Foles
RE: I cant imagine anything less likely than...  
LBH15 : 10/28/2020 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15027465 Capt. Don said:
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Ronnie Stanley being available.


not a chance
Gerald Everett and Haason Reddick would be nice  
adamg : 10/28/2020 4:40 pm : link
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RE: bw well I don't think Jones is the guy  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15027517 NoGainDayne said:
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hence my suggestion.

QB might not make sense where we pick but i'd rather give a guy a chance that has some shot at being QB of the future than someone we just have as a backup.

IMO the only time you should spend resources on a backup QB is if you have a great QB on a lower priced deal and have super bowl aspirations ala Nick Foles


I get it. Just sizing it up if the brass thinks Jones is that guy...which I think is fairly guaranteed with this bunch.
Jones  
Thegratefulhead : 10/28/2020 4:50 pm : link
I am not sure yet. I am very skeptical of anyone that claims they have seen enough of Jones to know. He is in a new system in his second year in the NFL, has been pressured more than any other QB, bottom 5 of the NFL receiving core and lost his best offensive player early. I am concerned by the fumbling. I will judge him on the last 8 games of 2020. You should too.

I certainly think Lawrence and Fields have more upside. If we only win 2 games I could get behind drafting a new QB. Jones needs to show some growth in the second half of this year.
RE: Jones  
NoGainDayne : 10/28/2020 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15027529 Thegratefulhead said:
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I am not sure yet. I am very skeptical of anyone that claims they have seen enough of Jones to know. He is in a new system in his second year in the NFL, has been pressured more than any other QB, bottom 5 of the NFL receiving core and lost his best offensive player early. I am concerned by the fumbling. I will judge him on the last 8 games of 2020. You should too.

I certainly think Lawrence and Fields have more upside. If we only win 2 games I could get behind drafting a new QB. Jones needs to show some growth in the second half of this year.


I actually agree that you have to see more. If we can take Lawrence I think we've seen enough to say move on from Jones. Lance is very intriguing too, I'm not as sold on Fields but that's the kind of thing that much like Josh Allen you'd want the Giants to have some insight on if he can be a star in the NFL even if as fans we can't see.

Which is why I think a healthy middle ground is bringing in a QB in ~3rd round to compete with Jones. I'm not sure what handing the job over to Tyrod Taylor does for us next season.
Here is my list  
rasbutant : 10/28/2020 5:00 pm : link
Leonard Williams 17m/yr 5 years?
Anthony Harris 15m/yr 3 years?
Hunter Henry 9m/yr 3-5years?
Dalvin Tomlinson 9m/yr 5 years?

If they will come back on the cheap...
Logan Ryan
Fackrell
Austin Johnson
Graham Gano

Also on my list, but can't sign everyone...
Haason Reddick 11m/yr
Bud Dupree 17m/yr?? 20m/yr???

I would look for a #2 CB, but without knowing the price tag its pointless to make a list. Everything is game here, a Ross Cockrell type signing to trading with Miami for Howard.

Oh and if somehow they became available I'd find a way to splurge for....LT Alejandro Villanueva or Ronnie Stanley or even Cam Robinson.

Not sure who, Giants need to grab a WR or two  
X : 10/28/2020 6:07 pm : link
along with a blocking TE, OLB,and OL

Juju is going to make a lot of $
The key to the Giants rebuild: develop our youth, jettison garbage  
SGMen : 10/28/2020 6:34 pm : link
First, we need to be sure by season's end that our starting OL is on the roster:

Thomas-Hernandez-Gates-Lemiuex-Peart

Bye-bye Solder, Zeitler & perhaps Fleming

Second, it goes without saying that D. Jones must be the clear cut QB of the future.
Third, we need an ER cause this defense is closer than most think IF the young DB's develop: McKinney, Holmes.
Fourth, we need a WR cause Tate is gone; Shepard is always hurt; and, we have no young guys outside of Slayton.
Fifth, regardless of where we draft in the Top 5, we must pick a guy who can play and play well. Same for the 2nd round.

I believe we will see a roster purge with a new GM but the same staff.
RE: Not sure who, Giants need to grab a WR or two  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 7:02 pm : link
In comment 15027578 X said:
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along with a blocking TE, OLB,and OL

Juju is going to make a lot of $


Juju seems to have lost some of mojo since Brown left. A lot easier to be the #2 when the #1 has HoFame skills.

I say he's not worth big dollars. He's got 32 receptions this year for 8.7YPC. BFD.
Lavonte David  
ghost718 : 10/28/2020 7:25 pm : link
Re-sign Williams

maybe

Damontae Kazee
Xavier Woods
Dan Feeney
Marcus Maye
RE: We have five picks...  
Bruner4329 : 10/28/2020 8:38 pm : link
In comment 15027509 bw in dc said:
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in the 2021 draft. If Jones is deemed the guy - still - you can't use any of those five on a QB. NFW.

No we have 6. grabbed another with Arizona trade this week.
I'm not bringing a QB in to be a backup  
Go Terps : 10/28/2020 10:23 pm : link
Time to create some competition. No more scholarships.
RE: RE: We have five picks...  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15027762 Bruner4329 said:
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In comment 15027509 bw in dc said:


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in the 2021 draft. If Jones is deemed the guy - still - you can't use any of those five on a QB. NFW.


No we have 6. grabbed another with Arizona trade this week.


I stand corrected - you are right.
RE: re-sign...  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/29/2020 10:22 am : link
In comment 15027360 Capt. Don said:
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Logan Ryan
Dalvin Tomlinson
Fackrell if Reddick isnt signed.
Austin Johnson
Graham Gano
Gallman


Tomlinson or L. Williams...
Gallman if he continues like last Thurs night,
L. Ryan is cost sensitive, but love to bring him back if possible.

Adrian Colbert has played well
Kreiter the LS has been perfect, need him and Gano as a team
Austin Johnson definitely!

Golladay is intriguing as an FA acquisition.
RE: If we don't have the 1st pick  
jrthomps2006 : 10/29/2020 9:36 pm : link
In comment 15027335 HoodieGelo said:
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Micah Parsons is #1 on my wishlist.


I love him. Dynamic playmaker that’s all over the field and can rush the passer.
RE: RE: If we don't have the 1st pick  
bw in dc : 10/29/2020 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15028732 jrthomps2006 said:
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In comment 15027335 HoodieGelo said:


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Micah Parsons is #1 on my wishlist.



I love him. Dynamic playmaker that’s all over the field and can rush the passer.


I'm a PSU fan and second that. Parsons is the real deal. I think his skills are ideal for today's game where you have to really run sideline to sideline and be a great tackler.

Top ten prospect for sure...and very likely top five.
If the QBs are as advertised  
AcesUp : 10/29/2020 10:02 pm : link
And the Giants don't have access to Lawrence...trade down.

I'd target Robinson or Golladay. Both perfectly compliment Slayton and Shephard and I wouldn't classify either as products of an explosive offense. They're safe with a ceiling imo. It's ok to shop the top of the market when it fits, these guys fit.
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