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Per Raanan, Giants discuss Kenny Golladay with Lions

The Dude : 10/28/2020 7:13 pm
Not sure how much stock you put into Jordan Raanan confirming something, but per twitter ( I don’t listen to his podcast), confirms at the very least a discussion was had.

Unless Giants are trading their own expiring players straight up, i don’t see this rebuilding team trading for a future high priced WR. Zero chance any picks should be involved and much like LW last year, why give up assets for someone you can pay in FA. i can only see this happening if A) Lions have no intention of paying Kenny and B) Ironically, LW would have to be involved..or maybe Zeitler/Peppers or other players whose names have popped up in rumors.
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This  
UGADawgs7 : 10/28/2020 7:14 pm : link
Is beyond confusing...
Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
j_rud : 10/28/2020 7:15 pm : link
mentioned this last week.
Golladay  
Toth029 : 10/28/2020 7:18 pm : link
Is a stud. Concern over his absent games though.
RE: Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/28/2020 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15027614 j_rud said:
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mentioned this last week.


I saw this last week and shook my head. DG thinks we are 1 player away.

Obviously, the coaches know each other  
George from PA : 10/28/2020 7:20 pm : link
But I would have preferred A.Brown (biting my lip)
If the Lions know they aren’t going to sign him  
Giants in 07 : 10/28/2020 7:21 pm : link
Maybe they take a 3rd and we can sign him long term. This team badly needs someone on the outside

Then trade Zeitler for a 3rd
Everything says the lions should sign him long term.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/28/2020 7:23 pm : link
WRs like that tend not to hit free agency.
RE: If the Lions know they aren’t going to sign him  
NoGainDayne : 10/28/2020 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15027623 Giants in 07 said:
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Maybe they take a 3rd and we can sign him long term. This team badly needs someone on the outside

Then trade Zeitler for a 3rd


No, we should under no circumstances walk into a draft where we are again looking at a top 5 pick and trade one of our 5 picks left. This idea is fucking crazy. Teams don't do this at 1-6 for good reason.
The fact that Mara is even allowing DG....  
Tesla : 10/28/2020 7:24 pm : link
to talk about trading away even more draft picks during another wasted season shows that he has learned absolutely nothing from the disasters of the last four seasons.

At some point the league has to sit down and have a talk with Mara.....his incompetence has turned us from one of the premier NFL franchises into a fucking laughingstock.
Of course we’re buyers  
Oscar : 10/28/2020 7:25 pm : link
Another guy who’s about to be a free agent too. Go get em Dave! Ffs
Depends on a long term deal.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/28/2020 7:29 pm : link
That was the missing piece of the LW deal. Golladay is a player this team needs but we can't play this game of tagging players. I am for it if we can sign him long term and it isn't a first or second round pick.
RE: RE: If the Lions know they aren’t going to sign him  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 7:30 pm : link
In comment 15027625 NoGainDayne said:
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In comment 15027623 Giants in 07 said:


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Maybe they take a 3rd and we can sign him long term. This team badly needs someone on the outside

Then trade Zeitler for a 3rd



No, we should under no circumstances walk into a draft where we are again looking at a top 5 pick and trade one of our 5 picks left. This idea is fucking crazy. Teams don't do this at 1-6 for good reason.


^^^^^^^ 100% ^^^^^^^
I forgot the other insane part of Giants in 07's post  
NoGainDayne : 10/28/2020 7:34 pm : link
that we could get a 3rd for Zeitler. That is a real LOL. If we get a 6th rounder for him i'd be surprised. He has played like garbage the last two seasons. Where do people come up with this stuff?
RE: I forgot the other insane part of Giants in 07's post  
section125 : 10/28/2020 7:37 pm : link
In comment 15027633 NoGainDayne said:
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that we could get a 3rd for Zeitler. That is a real LOL. If we get a 6th rounder for him i'd be surprised. He has played like garbage the last two seasons. Where do people come up with this stuff?


If a contending team wants and needs a starting guard, they are not getting away with a 6th rounder.
If the trade  
The Dude : 10/28/2020 7:40 pm : link
Is basically LW for KG(for argument sake)..that’s just swapping a guy we’re unsure about paying for another? But one can argue we have more DT depth than WR

Also how is Mara allowing these talks to be had LOL
Zeitler starts for us but our line is horrific and he is a  
NoGainDayne : 10/28/2020 7:41 pm : link
big part of that. You are dreaming if you think they get more than that. Golden actually had a solid season for us last year (unlike Zeitler) and has a better contract. Why would Zeitler fetch more?
I'd  
AcidTest : 10/28/2020 7:45 pm : link
be really upset if we traded picks for Golladay, an impending FA. As others have said, it would be LW all over again. Our third round pick will also basically be a second. Idiotic.

My guess is that we've already shopped Tate and Zeitler and found that we can't get anything for either of them. The offers we received for Engram and Tomlinson were also less than what we were willing to accept.
Like the  
cokeduplt : 10/28/2020 7:46 pm : link
Player but trading more draft picks for an expiring contract would be horrific.
I’m fine with a discussion  
UConn4523 : 10/28/2020 7:48 pm : link
but I definitely do t want it to happen unless is trade value is less than I think it is.
RE: Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
eric2425ny : 10/28/2020 7:49 pm : link
In comment 15027614 j_rud said:
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mentioned this last week.


Yup, he sure did.
Not gonna lie  
GoDeep13 : 10/28/2020 7:50 pm : link
For a 3rd or later I’d be all for this. We badly need WR help but the best talent for other areas of need on this team (Edge and DB) are in the 1st two rounds. After that it’s a major drop off.
RE: Depends on a long term deal.  
eric2425ny : 10/28/2020 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15027630 robbieballs2003 said:
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That was the missing piece of the LW deal. Golladay is a player this team needs but we can't play this game of tagging players. I am for it if we can sign him long term and it isn't a first or second round pick.


Exactly, if they sign him to a long term deal here’s your next Burress. Big Golladay fan.
RE: Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
santacruzom : 10/28/2020 7:51 pm : link
In comment 15027614 j_rud said:
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mentioned this last week.


And another guy with a different sort of track record completely mocked him for it.
RE: If the trade  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15027648 The Dude said:
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Is basically LW for KG(for argument sake)..that’s just swapping a guy we’re unsure about paying for another? But one can argue we have more DT depth than WR

Also how is Mara allowing these talks to be had LOL


I see this, too.

But I think there is also an underlying message - Mara/Gettleman think they are still in the hunt for the Least and believe adding a very competent WR will significantly help.

Can't say it's totally crazy. But is "winning" the Least with 5 or 6 wins really a good year?

I
I think Gettleman needs to come in tomorrow  
LBH15 : 10/28/2020 8:01 pm : link
and bring his office key and security pass to Mr. Mara, and then say goodbye.
RE: RE: Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
BeckShepEli : 10/28/2020 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15027674 santacruzom said:
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In comment 15027614 j_rud said:


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mentioned this last week.



And another guy with a different sort of track record completely mocked him for it.


Charlotte man strikes again
Dave Gettleman should not be making long term moves  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/28/2020 8:02 pm : link
on behalf of this franchise. That's my POV.
RE: RE: Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
LBH15 : 10/28/2020 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15027674 santacruzom said:
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In comment 15027614 j_rud said:


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mentioned this last week.



And another guy with a different sort of track record completely mocked him for it.


who?
RE: RE: Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
djm : 10/28/2020 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15027617 GiantsRage2007 said:
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mentioned this last week.



I saw this last week and shook my head. DG thinks we are 1 player away.


Why does everyone always jump to this conclusion?

Perhaps the giants just want a wr. You might not get this same wr in fa.
Golladay  
AcidTest : 10/28/2020 8:11 pm : link
can't save our season. No one can. It's over. Again. Not only didn't we make it to Halloween before being out of contention, we realistically couldn't even get out of September. And in the worst division of football.

Assuming we have a contract agreement in place, I'll do Golladay for Engram, Tate, and Zeitler. Or maybe Golladay for Engram and Tomlinson.
Santacruzom  
LBH15 : 10/28/2020 8:12 pm : link
Who are you referring to?
Only if it’s a player for player deal..  
Sean : 10/28/2020 8:12 pm : link
Need to be adding draft picks, not selling them off.
I think the word is out  
David B. : 10/28/2020 8:12 pm : link
That Peppers is useless, and Zeitler is done. Tate can help you if you have a #1 and maybe a #2.
Golladay  
Jon in NYC : 10/28/2020 8:15 pm : link
is great and is very much what this team needs. The price is a concern both in salary and trade comp, more the latter. Seems unlikely, but I'd love to send Peppers and a 5th as opposed to a 3rd.
So what is the big issue if we could get a 26 yr old Golladay  
PatersonPlank : 10/28/2020 8:16 pm : link
for a good deal? He is young and could be part of the solution moving forward. IMO, I wouldn't be against a Zeitler for KG deal. Slayton, KG, and Shep is ok. We need to build around young players, and he is young
players for Golladay all day  
Eric on Li : 10/28/2020 8:17 pm : link
whether it's Peppers, Engram, Tate, Zeitler, etc. Perhaps even Tomlinson or Hill since it's an area with some depth.

if it's draft picks I'd imagine they'd want a 3rd+ and that I'd pass on. You can find good WR's in FA.
If we want Golladay  
AdamBrag : 10/28/2020 8:19 pm : link
we should sign him as a FA after the season.

He's really good, but the idea of trading for him when he'll be a FA at year end is incredibly stupid.
If we give up draft picks for a soon to be FA...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/28/2020 8:21 pm : link
JFC.

It really is time to take the car keys away from Gettleman, who should have been shown the door with Shurmur.
RE: If we want Golladay  
SGMen : 10/28/2020 8:22 pm : link
In comment 15027733 AdamBrag said:
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we should sign him as a FA after the season.

He's really good, but the idea of trading for him when he'll be a FA at year end is incredibly stupid.
I'd trade Zeitler for him. LOL. But yes, trading for a guy who will be a FA at season's end is not very smart.
The Lions are squarely...  
bw in dc : 10/28/2020 8:23 pm : link
in the playoff hunt right now. That was a huge win they stole in Atlanta last week. They have a fairly manageable schedule for the rest of the year where they could get to nine wins.

So selling their best WR doesn't make sense, especially for Patricia and Quinn...very likely trying to keep their jobs.
I would do Leonard Williams for  
chopperhatch : 10/28/2020 8:25 pm : link
Golladay straight up. Am I wrong?

Both on expiring contracts. We are still with at least 3 competent starters at DT/DE up front. Golladay fills a bigger hole. Next contract would probably be similar to what LW wants....


Am I nuts?
Golladay is a really good player  
Chris684 : 10/28/2020 8:25 pm : link
The cost (specifically draft picks) does concern me as I'm not sure what players they'd want in return, who we would actually trade.

Engram is not comparable value plus they have Hockenson.

Tomlinson? Maybe, he's one of the few guys who date back to the Reese era but he is a defensive captain currently.

I'm just not sure I see a fit for a deal here.
What are some of you talking about  
mdthedream : 10/28/2020 8:26 pm : link
Judge things we are a year away esp in this div and that is how he should look at it. Fix the oline and the rest will come together.
RE: I would do Leonard Williams for  
Jon in NYC : 10/28/2020 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15027745 chopperhatch said:
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Golladay straight up. Am I wrong?

Both on expiring contracts. We are still with at least 3 competent starters at DT/DE up front. Golladay fills a bigger hole. Next contract would probably be similar to what LW wants....


Am I nuts?


No, I would do that as well.
He  
mdthedream : 10/28/2020 8:27 pm : link
would be a great fit.
Why do all of you think  
David B. : 10/28/2020 8:27 pm : link
Someone's giving up a stud player for our trash? Even if it's LOTS of trash.
RE: I would do Leonard Williams for  
The Dude : 10/28/2020 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15027745 chopperhatch said:
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Golladay straight up. Am I wrong?

Both on expiring contracts. We are still with at least 3 competent starters at DT/DE up front. Golladay fills a bigger hole. Next contract would probably be similar to what LW wants....


Am I nuts?


If the above was the case i think you absolutely do It. We have a handful of DT/DEs, not so much WR. Even if we don’t come to an agreement with KG this off-season(in this scenario we absolutely should), what’s the damage? You let LW walk which theoretically we were going to anyway
I like LW but I'd trade him for Golladay as long as medical checks out  
Eric on Li : 10/28/2020 8:31 pm : link
I'd rather invest around Jones than the defense. The way the game is now you have to be able to score if you get the ball last.

The Lions only won last weekend because Golladay made plays.
RE: RE: RE: Rico, an asshat with a pretty solid track record  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/28/2020 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15027702 djm said:
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In comment 15027617 GiantsRage2007 said:


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In comment 15027614 j_rud said:


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mentioned this last week.



I saw this last week and shook my head. DG thinks we are 1 player away.




Why does everyone always jump to this conclusion?

Perhaps the giants just want a wr. You might not get this same wr in fa.


Because it DG. Because he traded assets last year for a FA to be? I mean, I get it.. we desperately need a wr. But it seems like you either trade a pick for a guy with a long term contract or sign a guy in FA. Not trade picks for a guy becoming a FA. This isn’t the only wr around. Yes he’s good but ... the draft is full of good wr. Other teams seem to find them every year.
RE: The Lions are squarely...  
AcidTest : 10/28/2020 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15027742 bw in dc said:
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in the playoff hunt right now. That was a huge win they stole in Atlanta last week. They have a fairly manageable schedule for the rest of the year where they could get to nine wins.

So selling their best WR doesn't make sense, especially for Patricia and Quinn...very likely trying to keep their jobs.


Agreed. I don't see this happening, but can't believe we'd be "buyers" again in FA.
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