Per Raanan, Giants discuss Kenny Golladay with Lions

talking with the Lions last week about Golladay.

Who's the moron?

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Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off

In comment 15027670 GoDeep13 said:

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For a 3rd or later I’d be all for this. We badly need WR help but the best talent for other areas of need on this team (Edge and DB) are in the 1st two rounds. After that it’s a major drop off.

That's the issue for me. And your out your mind if you think Golladay is going for a 3rd. The media barely talks about the guy and he's a better player than Cooper who grabbed a first. Their asking price would certainly be a first, but maybe a second in our case. If they would take two 3rd's and Engram I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I agree with your latter point though and I think this defense is a CB and edge from being very, very good and the only way you can get edge these days is in the draft or trade a boatload of picks. Trade away a second and then we might see ourselves force the edge with our top pick which is exactly where you don't want to be long-term. I think having your first two picks in the draft is huge as it gives you more leeway of not forcing need.

Lions have 3 wins and the coach and GM are playing for their jobs. Peppers and a 5th is a laughable offer

In comment 15027617 GiantsRage2007 said:

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In comment 15027614 j_rud said: Quote: mentioned this last week. I saw this last week and shook my head. DG thinks we are 1 player away.

No, he doesn’t

In comment 15027775 Ned In Atlanta said:

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Lions have 3 wins and the coach and GM are playing for their jobs. Peppers and a 5th is a laughable offer

Yeah unless Patricia has been given some insurances no way he's a seller. I think a lot of this is getting driven by the fact he's from the "Bill Belichik" tree.

Or did he just cut and paste what Rico said ?

In comment 15027764 LBH15 said:

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talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off

Ya that was pretty unnecessary.

If this does happen you can bet a driving motivation for making it happen would be the ability to provide Daniel Jones some real weapons to help in the development and evaluation of him as a franchise quarterback.

Anyone that can't see that has already quit on this year and is already looking at next year.

For it to make any kind of sense, and even then what is the point in this kind of season. And why should Gettleman get the benefit of a doubt given how LW played out?

for players who are immediately due a big contract.

in a draft that's going to be super deep in WR again and which we are likely to have a top 5 pick;

We're going to trade for a WR who's a free agent at the end of year and will likely command what $15 million plus per year.

Brilliant!!!

why not draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd instead, save millions based on the rookie contract and/or sign Galladay this off-season if they really want to.

Or may DG is convinced we are one WR away from the playoffs.

John and Chris Mara are trending to Dolan levels.

In comment 15027733 AdamBrag said:

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we should sign him as a FA after the season. He's really good, but the idea of trading for him when he'll be a FA at year end is incredibly stupid.

would he be viable for some kind of tag?

In comment 15027648 The Dude said:

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Is basically LW for KG(for argument sake)..that’s just swapping a guy we’re unsure about paying for another? But one can argue we have more DT depth than WR Also how is Mara allowing these talks to be had LOL

who says there is any discussion with the Lions about any of this? Consider the source... not credible at all

a lot, not thrilled at the idea of trading picks for him.

But...

The Giants need a #1 WR to work with Jones. So long as the Jets organization exists, they are going to pick #1. Now that might force Lawrence to go back to Clemson, but the bottom line is I don't think the Giants are going to give up on Jones just yet.

So for the Judge team to start winning, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to give a half of a season for Jones to start to build a connection with Golladay. Slayton is a nice WR, but more and more he's a #2 or #3 on a deep roster. Shepard is the underneath slot guy. Forget Tate, he's done. Golladay is more of a building block for the immediate future than Williams was last year in the trade.

Like GoDeep13 said above, for a 3rd I might have a tough time saying no to that. At some point the Giants need to start giving Jones some help out there. Now he turns 27 next week, he came in as an older rookie, so that might drive his price tag down. It will be interesting to see if they do anything.

In comment 15027782 widmerseyebrow said:

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In comment 15027764 LBH15 said: Quote: talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off Ya that was pretty unnecessary.

He’s a dink. But he does have the inside scoop on the big story this month ...WR Coleman being added to the practice squad.

In comment 15027764 LBH15 said:

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talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off

That post wasn’t directed at Rico. I believe Sonic Youth and Fatman had a disagreement.

In comment 15027810 PetesHereNow said:

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In comment 15027764 LBH15 said: Quote: talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off That post wasn’t directed at Rico. I believe Sonic Youth and Fatman had a disagreement.

What? How do you come to that view?

In comment 15027803 Matt in SGS said:

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a lot, not thrilled at the idea of trading picks for him. But... The Giants need a #1 WR to work with Jones. So long as the Jets organization exists, they are going to pick #1. Now that might force Lawrence to go back to Clemson, but the bottom line is I don't think the Giants are going to give up on Jones just yet. So for the Judge team to start winning, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to give a half of a season for Jones to start to build a connection with Golladay. Slayton is a nice WR, but more and more he's a #2 or #3 on a deep roster. Shepard is the underneath slot guy. Forget Tate, he's done. Golladay is more of a building block for the immediate future than Williams was last year in the trade. Like GoDeep13 said above, for a 3rd I might have a tough time saying no to that. At some point the Giants need to start giving Jones some help out there. Now he turns 27 next week, he came in as an older rookie, so that might drive his price tag down. It will be interesting to see if they do anything.

another guy for them to consider would be DJ Chark. Jacksonville looks like it wants draft picks. They drafted Shenault and have Cole as well. He’s a bit disgruntled with them at the moment. 6’3 and ran in the 4.3s. Been a productive guy with top tier WR1 potential.

In comment 15027745 chopperhatch said:

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Golladay straight up. Am I wrong? Both on expiring contracts. We are still with at least 3 competent starters at DT/DE up front. Golladay fills a bigger hole. Next contract would probably be similar to what LW wants.... Am I nuts?

No, we need Golladay more.

when you stink and already traded a couple picks away. Lions are also in the mix so why trade a weapon. He's probably a nutter.

Rico has been legit repeatedly, btw.

young 26. That changes things a tiny bit. Patricia is trying to win this year, but I wonder if he'd take a 3rd and Engram.

That would give them a very unique set of skill players and you could really play Engram to his strengths. Hockenson is emerging to what he is was hyped as and their other tight end is pretty good. They could go two tight ends all game giving you a lot of options as to what you want to do on offense. Really outside the box, but there's a certain logic to it for both teams. I think if Golladay is rumored to be shopped than its possible Patricia has been given certain assurances he'll get another year.

An offense with Golladay-Slayton-EE-Sheppard with Lewis/Freeman/Gallman out of the backfield could win the division. Espeically as Thomas and the rest of the line continue to improve.

In comment 15027745 chopperhatch said:

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Golladay straight up. Am I wrong? Both on expiring contracts. We are still with at least 3 competent starters at DT/DE up front. Golladay fills a bigger hole. Next contract would probably be similar to what LW wants.... Am I nuts?

I would absolutely do that in one second.

and here we are talking about trading picks for a receiver. DG Could still have gone OL at 4 and grabbed a nice prospect in Claypool, Higgins or shenualt in the 2nd.

We knew the state of our wrs. This was no surprise.

is a no brainer

In comment 15027810 PetesHereNow said:

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In comment 15027764 LBH15 said: Quote: talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off That post wasn’t directed at Rico. I believe Sonic Youth and Fatman had a disagreement.

I also think it was between Sonic and FMIC

In comment 15027828 Walnut said:

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An offense with Golladay-Slayton-EE-Sheppard with Lewis/Freeman/Gallman out of the backfield could win the division. Espeically as Thomas and the rest of the line continue to improve.

Stop

We already have 2 div losses. One more and we are done.

In comment 15027702 djm said:

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In comment 15027617 GiantsRage2007 said: Quote: In comment 15027614 j_rud said: Quote: mentioned this last week. I saw this last week and shook my head. DG thinks we are 1 player away. Why does everyone always jump to this conclusion? Perhaps the giants just want a wr. You might not get this same wr in fa.

Golladay IS a FA at the end of the year. It's the Leonard Williams trade all over again.

In comment 15027745 chopperhatch said:

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Golladay straight up. Am I wrong? Both on expiring contracts. We are still with at least 3 competent starters at DT/DE up front. Golladay fills a bigger hole. Next contract would probably be similar to what LW wants.... Am I nuts?

No, your trade would make more sense than trading a draft pick.

In comment 15027848 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said:

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and here we are talking about trading picks for a receiver. DG Could still have gone OL at 4 and grabbed a nice prospect in Claypool, Higgins or shenualt in the 2nd. We knew the state of our wrs. This was no surprise.

Hggins was taken before our second round pick. He was the first pick of the second round.

In comment 15027856 Anakim said:

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In comment 15027848 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said: Quote: and here we are talking about trading picks for a receiver. DG Could still have gone OL at 4 and grabbed a nice prospect in Claypool, Higgins or shenualt in the 2nd. We knew the state of our wrs. This was no surprise. Hggins was taken before our second round pick. He was the first pick of the second round.

Good catch.

For all you analytic geeks, Cray run on WRs this year...27 taken in 1st 5 rounds.

The fact that this is even being discussed by the giants is offensive. Learned nothing over the past 3 years??? John Mara wake up.

In comment 15027782 widmerseyebrow said:

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In comment 15027764 LBH15 said: Quote: talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off Ya that was pretty unnecessary.

Typical of him, egg all over his face as always

Golden Tate straight up. Take it or leave it.

1- we sign him to a long term deal and

2- The Giants plan to move down in the draft to accumulate some more picks.

I think we will be active in FA and fill a number of holes that way.

on this team is offense period. Need Oline to get better and we need WRs. I would also look to get a decent TE that can block and catch and yes they are out there during free agency. TE like guys like cook are not expensive.

Leonard Williams redux. Sign him in FA. This year is over.

In comment 15027764 LBH15 said:

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talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off

Jesus.. FMiC should sit these next few plays out.

Unless the mods deleted a post prior to FMiC, the only conclusion one can come to is that his post was aimed at Rico.

I love the Fatman when he's talking football, but far too often he's more interested in being snarky.

His not knowing, or respecting, Rico's history is odd, since Fats usually has the memory of an elephant when it comes to posters.
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no fucking trade without a new deal in place.

DG's keys from him by this point, no?

is Jordan Rico?

In comment 15027940 Harvest Blend said:

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DG's keys from him by this point, no?

Not if the plan is just hand the reins over to Abrams. This would be the perfect Giants Way of handling the situation.

I mean - that's the kind of shit they do over at Jints Central.

they obviously need a receiver, if the Lions don't want to pay Golladay, and he is available, he fits the bill. The Lions need defensive players, we have extra d-linemen, so it seems like fit.

I agree Gettleman stinks but even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, and this is a nut we could use.

In comment 15027966 Dnew15 said:

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In comment 15027940 Harvest Blend said: Quote: DG's keys from him by this point, no? Not if the plan is just hand the reins over to Abrams. This would be the perfect Giants Way of handling the situation. I mean - that's the kind of shit they do over at Jints Central.

I'm aware of that but I'm in a hopeful mood today.

In comment 15027764 LBH15 said:

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talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off

Can you imagine what this guy is like in real life?

In comment 15027976 sb from NYT Forum said:

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In comment 15027764 LBH15 said: Quote: talking with the Lions last week about Golladay. Who's the moron? Quote: Are.. FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2020 11:48 pm : link : reply you a fucking moron? Maybe sleep it off Can you imagine what this guy is like in real life?

Still can’t get over the gem he dropped after the loss to the cowboys: “So th is is the GMs fault?”

this deal would be a good one.

In comment 15027968 HomerJones45 said:

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they obviously need a receiver, if the Lions don't want to pay Golladay, and he is available, he fits the bill. The Lions need defensive players, we have extra d-linemen, so it seems like fit. I agree Gettleman stinks but even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, and this is a nut we could use.

They can inquire but they aren’t trading Golloday for Leonard freaking Williams